Skip to content
  • MySensors
  • OpenHardware.io
  • Categories
  • Recent
  • Tags
  • Popular
Skins
  • Light
  • Brite
  • Cerulean
  • Cosmo
  • Flatly
  • Journal
  • Litera
  • Lumen
  • Lux
  • Materia
  • Minty
  • Morph
  • Pulse
  • Sandstone
  • Simplex
  • Sketchy
  • Spacelab
  • United
  • Yeti
  • Zephyr
  • Dark
  • Cyborg
  • Darkly
  • Quartz
  • Slate
  • Solar
  • Superhero
  • Vapor

  • Default (No Skin)
  • No Skin
Collapse
Brand Logo
  1. Home
  2. OpenHardware.io
  3. 💬 AC-DC double solid state relay module

💬 AC-DC double solid state relay module

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved OpenHardware.io
hlk-pm01solid state relaylight switchlightacdc
226 Posts 67 Posters 104.2k Views 65 Watching
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • A Offline
    A Offline
    aproxx
    Hero Member
    wrote on last edited by aproxx
    #18

    @Soloam I'm actually not using 2 100nF capacitors, but 1 100nF and 100 uF capacitor. Exactly for the reason that scalz mentioned. :) I'm not saying these are the perfect values to use, but I came across similar values some time ago, and these give me a decent and stable voltage.

    The width of my copper traces is 2mm for the entire high voltage circuit. I have used a trade width/thickness calculator, and it should be more than sufficient to power the HLK-PM01.
    However, it is not sufficient for the traces between the relays and the connectors because it should be able to handle up to 2A (limiting factor of the solid state relays). That's why I have designed this board with open air traces between the relays and the connectors. That way it's possible to reinforce the traces with solder, after which it should be able to withstand 2 Amps.

    And good luck with designing your version of the board! If there is a way to decrease the board size even further that would be great!

    1 Reply Last reply
    0
    • SoloamS Offline
      SoloamS Offline
      Soloam
      Hardware Contributor
      wrote on last edited by
      #19

      Hello all, I finished my version of this idea! Thank you to @aproxx for the help! I used a ATMEGA328, this wil make it a bit cheaper. https://www.openhardware.io/view/83

      I need some help validating the layout, most important the 220v traces and the capacitors used in the layout!

      Thank you all

      dpressleD 1 Reply Last reply
      0
      • okosO Offline
        okosO Offline
        okos
        wrote on last edited by
        #20

        Hello,
        My question is whether the code includes support DS18B20?

        1 Reply Last reply
        0
        • S Offline
          S Offline
          Samuel235
          Hardware Contributor
          wrote on last edited by
          #21

          @aproxx, Could i ask what trace width and what clearance you used for the AC portion of this device? Also, what current did you base these settings on, what current do you expect to be flowing through the AC traces?

          MySensors 2.1.1
          Controller - OpenHAB (Virtual Machine)
          Gateway - Arduino Mega MQTT Gateway W5100

          1 Reply Last reply
          0
          • S Offline
            S Offline
            shabba
            wrote on last edited by
            #22

            Just a thought : Why not use RAW instead of VCC so a 3.3V mini can be used as thus no logic conversion needed for RFM69? The SSR works find below 3v as it happens. Also means no need for the voltage changer. Could also look at getting the 3.3V HLMs also I guess.

            1 Reply Last reply
            0
            • okosO Offline
              okosO Offline
              okos
              wrote on last edited by
              #23

              How many pieces got ordering paying $ 14 http://dirtypcbs.com/index.php ?

              mr_constM 1 Reply Last reply
              0
              • mr_constM Offline
                mr_constM Offline
                mr_const
                wrote on last edited by
                #24

                Hi @approx, there is 4k7 resistor placeholder under arduino, near 100nf capacitor, but you didn't mention it in a project description - is this resistor optional?

                S 1 Reply Last reply
                0
                • mr_constM mr_const

                  Hi @approx, there is 4k7 resistor placeholder under arduino, near 100nf capacitor, but you didn't mention it in a project description - is this resistor optional?

                  S Offline
                  S Offline
                  Samuel235
                  Hardware Contributor
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #25

                  @Konstantin-Kolesnichenko, I would highly recommend the pullup resistor.

                  Please see https://wp.josh.com/2014/06/23/no-external-pull-up-needed-for-ds18b20-temp-sensor/ for more information regarding this resistor.

                  MySensors 2.1.1
                  Controller - OpenHAB (Virtual Machine)
                  Gateway - Arduino Mega MQTT Gateway W5100

                  1 Reply Last reply
                  0
                  • okosO okos

                    How many pieces got ordering paying $ 14 http://dirtypcbs.com/index.php ?

                    mr_constM Offline
                    mr_constM Offline
                    mr_const
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #26

                    @okos I got 11 pieces for one order.
                    @Samuel235 thank you, soldered one :)

                    1 Reply Last reply
                    0
                    • the cosmic gateT Offline
                      the cosmic gateT Offline
                      the cosmic gate
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #27

                      anybody who's got a complete kit for sale ? Want to test build one (single relay is enough)
                      (or maybe nicer: a 3in1 solution : Motion detection , relais , DHT of other temp sensor)

                      There's more than meets the eye

                      1 Reply Last reply
                      0
                      • mr_constM Offline
                        mr_constM Offline
                        mr_const
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #28

                        Is somewhere there present source for this module with temperature module support?

                        1 Reply Last reply
                        0
                        • badmannenB Offline
                          badmannenB Offline
                          badmannen
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #29

                          this looks like a great project. Have anyone made a complete shopping / whish-list on Alibaba for all the components needed? ( I´m lookin for safest version possible =)

                          Many thanks,
                          Henrik

                          rPi 3 - UNO R3 - Mini - Nano - custom

                          Nca78N 2 Replies Last reply
                          0
                          • badmannenB badmannen

                            this looks like a great project. Have anyone made a complete shopping / whish-list on Alibaba for all the components needed? ( I´m lookin for safest version possible =)

                            Many thanks,
                            Henrik

                            Nca78N Offline
                            Nca78N Offline
                            Nca78
                            Hardware Contributor
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #30

                            @badmannen I have ordered nearly everything on aliexpress but I had to buy from many different sellers to have everything, I don't know if they are all reliable, I will know in 3-4 weeks and then post the links for the items I received.
                            I took some 250mA fuses as no one was selling 200mA slow fuses on aliexpress, and also some 77°C temp fuses instead of the 73° because they were less than half the price. I'll grill one or two to make sure they are real temp fuses when I receive them ;)

                            Not sure if I order the PCBs from DirtyPCB now or if I wait to received my previous (and first order there) to be sure they will reach my mailbox...

                            1 Reply Last reply
                            1
                            • badmannenB badmannen

                              this looks like a great project. Have anyone made a complete shopping / whish-list on Alibaba for all the components needed? ( I´m lookin for safest version possible =)

                              Many thanks,
                              Henrik

                              Nca78N Offline
                              Nca78N Offline
                              Nca78
                              Hardware Contributor
                              wrote on last edited by Nca78
                              #31

                              @badmannen I have just received my temp fuses, 1 of the 10 is dead, I tested one that was ok to make sure it was a temp fuse. I used the thermometer function on my multimeter and heated at the same time with my soldering iron at lowest temperature possible (200°C).
                              Heated until thermometer reached 50°C, fuse was still ok.
                              Heated again a bit longer and I heard some noise when thermometer went over 60°C. I stopped and checked: the fuse was blown. Given that multimeter thermometer is not extremely precise and has some lag to increase the temperature, I think the claim of 77°C cut off is probably right or at least not far from reality. And at least I'm sure these are temp fuses. I'm not testing another one as I have only 8 left now and I'm nearly sure I'll burn a few when soldering :D

                              [edit] 77° fuses not sold anymore :(
                              http://www.aliexpress.com/item/10pcs-lot-RY77-TF-77-Degree-Celsius-77C-10A-250V-Temperature-Thermal-Fuse/32577243105.html
                              I will order that next, from same seller, look like the same fuses, just 72°C which should be fine in our case.
                              http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/20pcs-lot-RY72-TF-72-Degree-Celsius-72C-10A-250V-Temperature-Thermal-Fuse/1021664_32660871006.html

                              badmannenB 1 Reply Last reply
                              0
                              • Sacha TelgenhofS Offline
                                Sacha TelgenhofS Offline
                                Sacha Telgenhof
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #32

                                Hi @aproxx , very nice module! Just one question: after studying the board I still not quite understand how an existing light switch needs to be connected. There are 3 connecters, one for AC and two relays. Where do I connect the light switch to?

                                Cheers! Sacha

                                rhapenR 1 Reply Last reply
                                0
                                • Nca78N Nca78

                                  @badmannen I have just received my temp fuses, 1 of the 10 is dead, I tested one that was ok to make sure it was a temp fuse. I used the thermometer function on my multimeter and heated at the same time with my soldering iron at lowest temperature possible (200°C).
                                  Heated until thermometer reached 50°C, fuse was still ok.
                                  Heated again a bit longer and I heard some noise when thermometer went over 60°C. I stopped and checked: the fuse was blown. Given that multimeter thermometer is not extremely precise and has some lag to increase the temperature, I think the claim of 77°C cut off is probably right or at least not far from reality. And at least I'm sure these are temp fuses. I'm not testing another one as I have only 8 left now and I'm nearly sure I'll burn a few when soldering :D

                                  [edit] 77° fuses not sold anymore :(
                                  http://www.aliexpress.com/item/10pcs-lot-RY77-TF-77-Degree-Celsius-77C-10A-250V-Temperature-Thermal-Fuse/32577243105.html
                                  I will order that next, from same seller, look like the same fuses, just 72°C which should be fine in our case.
                                  http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/20pcs-lot-RY72-TF-72-Degree-Celsius-72C-10A-250V-Temperature-Thermal-Fuse/1021664_32660871006.html

                                  badmannenB Offline
                                  badmannenB Offline
                                  badmannen
                                  wrote on last edited by badmannen
                                  #33

                                  @Nca78 Thanks alot for the detailed info! really appreciate it. keep it coming pros and cons if any if you notice something

                                  //Henrik

                                  rPi 3 - UNO R3 - Mini - Nano - custom

                                  Nca78N 1 Reply Last reply
                                  0
                                  • SoloamS Soloam

                                    Hello all, I finished my version of this idea! Thank you to @aproxx for the help! I used a ATMEGA328, this wil make it a bit cheaper. https://www.openhardware.io/view/83

                                    I need some help validating the layout, most important the 220v traces and the capacitors used in the layout!

                                    Thank you all

                                    dpressleD Offline
                                    dpressleD Offline
                                    dpressle
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #34

                                    @Soloam said:

                                    Hello all, I finished my version of this idea! Thank you to @aproxx for the help! I used a ATMEGA328, this wil make it a bit cheaper. https://www.openhardware.io/view/83

                                    I need some help validating the layout, most important the 220v traces and the capacitors used in the layout!

                                    Thank you all

                                    Is there any news on this design?

                                    1 Reply Last reply
                                    0
                                    • badmannenB badmannen

                                      @Nca78 Thanks alot for the detailed info! really appreciate it. keep it coming pros and cons if any if you notice something

                                      //Henrik

                                      Nca78N Offline
                                      Nca78N Offline
                                      Nca78
                                      Hardware Contributor
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #35

                                      @badmannen said:

                                      @Nca78 Thanks alot for the detailed info! really appreciate it. keep it coming pros and cons if any if you notice something

                                      //Henrik
                                      You're welcome. I ordered 72°C fuses as in my previous link. Seller agreed to add one to replace the broken 77°C I received last week.

                                      I received the varistors, ssd relays and regulators, all correctly packaged in padded envelopes. Not tested yet, I will update this post later if I see a problem, but I'm not sure how I can efficiently test the varistors...

                                      http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Varistor-10D391K-10D-391K-VDR-10K391-Metal-voltage-dependent-resistor-50pcs-bag/1912418587.html

                                      http://www.aliexpress.com/item/10pcs-bag-New-original-solid-state-relay-G3MB-202P-DC-AC-PCB-SSR-In-5VDC-Out/32260339179.html

                                      http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-shipping-10pcs-lot-LE33CZ-LE33ACZ-TO-92-new-original/32591811172.html

                                      dpressleD 1 Reply Last reply
                                      0
                                      • Nca78N Nca78

                                        @badmannen said:

                                        @Nca78 Thanks alot for the detailed info! really appreciate it. keep it coming pros and cons if any if you notice something

                                        //Henrik
                                        You're welcome. I ordered 72°C fuses as in my previous link. Seller agreed to add one to replace the broken 77°C I received last week.

                                        I received the varistors, ssd relays and regulators, all correctly packaged in padded envelopes. Not tested yet, I will update this post later if I see a problem, but I'm not sure how I can efficiently test the varistors...

                                        http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Varistor-10D391K-10D-391K-VDR-10K391-Metal-voltage-dependent-resistor-50pcs-bag/1912418587.html

                                        http://www.aliexpress.com/item/10pcs-bag-New-original-solid-state-relay-G3MB-202P-DC-AC-PCB-SSR-In-5VDC-Out/32260339179.html

                                        http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-shipping-10pcs-lot-LE33CZ-LE33ACZ-TO-92-new-original/32591811172.html

                                        dpressleD Offline
                                        dpressleD Offline
                                        dpressle
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #36

                                        @Nca78 How is the LE33 working for you? i couldn't make it drive the NRF...

                                        Nca78N mr_constM 2 Replies Last reply
                                        0
                                        • dpressleD dpressle

                                          @Nca78 How is the LE33 working for you? i couldn't make it drive the NRF...

                                          Nca78N Offline
                                          Nca78N Offline
                                          Nca78
                                          Hardware Contributor
                                          wrote on last edited by Nca78
                                          #37

                                          @dpressle said:

                                          @Nca78 How is the LE33 working for you? i couldn't make it drive the NRF...

                                          As I said I didn't have time to test the last batch of components yet.
                                          It's suprising as the LE33 is supposed to allow up to 100mA current, that should be enough for the NRF. Not sure I will use them any as I have some 3.3V nanos and also some 3.3V HLKs so I could bypass it.
                                          I will test anyway and keep you updated.

                                          [edit] All components (slow blow fuses, capacitors,...) received, I'm just waiting for the PCBs now. And for some time to test :)

                                          1 Reply Last reply
                                          0
                                          Reply
                                          • Reply as topic
                                          Log in to reply
                                          • Oldest to Newest
                                          • Newest to Oldest
                                          • Most Votes


                                          26

                                          Online

                                          11.7k

                                          Users

                                          11.2k

                                          Topics

                                          113.1k

                                          Posts


                                          Copyright 2025 TBD   |   Forum Guidelines   |   Privacy Policy   |   Terms of Service
                                          • Login

                                          • Don't have an account? Register

                                          • Login or register to search.
                                          • First post
                                            Last post
                                          0
                                          • MySensors
                                          • OpenHardware.io
                                          • Categories
                                          • Recent
                                          • Tags
                                          • Popular