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  • epierreE epierre

    So tonight with these new formulae, I updated my mega sketch to get :

     MQ2    :LPG   :0ppm    CO    :0ppm    SMOKE :0ppm
     MQ6    :LPG   :0ppm    CH4   :0ppm
     MQ131  :CL2   :1ppm    O3    :1ppm
     TGS2600:H2    :0ppm    C2H5OH:0ppm    C4H10 :0ppm
    

    Going through the "clean air calibation" I have:

    float MQResistanceCalculation(int raw_adc)    {
      return ( ((float)RL_VALUE*(1023-raw_adc)/raw_adc));
    }
    

    Here are the readings without:

    MQ2:5.28
    MQ6:36.94
    MQ131:3.61
    TGS2600:0.04
    

    and with all is 0... BTW...

    What do you think of that ? nothing indicated that MQ6 should be so big, and tgs so low... same for MQ131 that should be 100k-200k per datasheet....

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    wrote on last edited by
    #148

    @epierre

    hi

    i am new here.

    sorry i am a little confused by with these new formulate.

    is it the key for module?

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      #149

      Hello,
      I'm don't understand the recipe below. Why RL_Value(Load Resistance)(1023-raw_adc)/raw_adc)? Can you explain for me?
      Thank you so much !!!
      /
      ***************** MQResistanceCalculation ****************************************
      Input: raw_adc - raw value read from adc, which represents the voltage
      Output: the calculated sensor resistance
      Remarks: The sensor and the load resistor forms a voltage divider. Given the voltage
      across the load resistor and its resistance, the resistance of the sensor
      could be derived.
      ***********************************************************************************/
      float MQ2::MQResistanceCalculation(int raw_adc)
      {
      return ( ((float)RL_VALUE
      (1023-raw_adc)/raw_adc));
      }

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      • jenbakerJ jenbaker

        @epierre

        hi

        i am new here.

        sorry i am a little confused by with these new formulate.

        is it the key for module?

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        epierre
        Hero Member
        wrote on last edited by
        #150

        @jenbaker said:

        sorry i am a little confused by with these new formulate.

        is it the key for module?

        if you have a module the datasheet gives you the values, yes. Remember this is their """""generic"""" calibration, in fact they all copy the other so don't expect your MQ** would follow this by the letter...

        z-wave - Vera -> Domoticz
        rfx - Domoticz <- MyDomoAtHome <- Imperihome
        mysensors -> mysensors-gw -> Domoticz

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        • tantt2810T tantt2810

          Hello,
          I'm don't understand the recipe below. Why RL_Value(Load Resistance)(1023-raw_adc)/raw_adc)? Can you explain for me?
          Thank you so much !!!
          /
          ***************** MQResistanceCalculation ****************************************
          Input: raw_adc - raw value read from adc, which represents the voltage
          Output: the calculated sensor resistance
          Remarks: The sensor and the load resistor forms a voltage divider. Given the voltage
          across the load resistor and its resistance, the resistance of the sensor
          could be derived.
          ***********************************************************************************/
          float MQ2::MQResistanceCalculation(int raw_adc)
          {
          return ( ((float)RL_VALUE
          (1023-raw_adc)/raw_adc));
          }

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          epierre
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          wrote on last edited by
          #151

          @tantt2810 said:

          Hello,
          I'm don't understand the recipe below. Why RL_Value(Load Resistance)(1023-raw_adc)/raw_adc)? Can you explain for me?
          Thank you so much !!!
          Input: raw_adc - raw value read from adc, which represents the voltage
          Output: the calculated sensor resistance
          Remarks: The sensor and the load resistor forms a voltage divider. Given the voltage
          across the load resistor and its resistance, the resistance of the sensor
          could be derived.
          float MQ2::MQResistanceCalculation(int raw_adc)
          RL_VALUE
          (1023-raw_adc)/raw_adc));

          in fact it is above described, you have a voltage, you want a resistance.
          https://learn.sparkfun.com/tutorials/voltage-dividers

          datasheet needs a value which is the Rs/Ro (called here RL) where
          Ro: sensor resistance at 100ppm of NH3 in the clean air.
          Rs:sensor resistance at various concentrations of gases

          here the formula is a simplification of this:

          float Vrl = val * ( 5.00 / 1024.0 ); // V
          float Rs = 20000 * ( 5.00 - Vrl) / Vrl ; // Ohm
          int ratio = Rs/Ro;
          ppm = 37143 * pow (ratio, -3.178);

          z-wave - Vera -> Domoticz
          rfx - Domoticz <- MyDomoAtHome <- Imperihome
          mysensors -> mysensors-gw -> Domoticz

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          • epierreE epierre

            @tantt2810 said:

            Hello,
            I'm don't understand the recipe below. Why RL_Value(Load Resistance)(1023-raw_adc)/raw_adc)? Can you explain for me?
            Thank you so much !!!
            Input: raw_adc - raw value read from adc, which represents the voltage
            Output: the calculated sensor resistance
            Remarks: The sensor and the load resistor forms a voltage divider. Given the voltage
            across the load resistor and its resistance, the resistance of the sensor
            could be derived.
            float MQ2::MQResistanceCalculation(int raw_adc)
            RL_VALUE
            (1023-raw_adc)/raw_adc));

            in fact it is above described, you have a voltage, you want a resistance.
            https://learn.sparkfun.com/tutorials/voltage-dividers

            datasheet needs a value which is the Rs/Ro (called here RL) where
            Ro: sensor resistance at 100ppm of NH3 in the clean air.
            Rs:sensor resistance at various concentrations of gases

            here the formula is a simplification of this:

            float Vrl = val * ( 5.00 / 1024.0 ); // V
            float Rs = 20000 * ( 5.00 - Vrl) / Vrl ; // Ohm
            int ratio = Rs/Ro;
            ppm = 37143 * pow (ratio, -3.178);

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            tantt2810
            wrote on last edited by
            #152

            @epierre Hi you,
            I think the Rs/Ro is not RL. In the datasheet RL=5kOhm. As I know it is a resistance on board Arduino, and we set it 5kOhm. Is it right? I also don't know why we set it equal 5kOhm. =))
            And why 20000 is in "float Rs = 20000 * ( 5.00 - Vrl) / Vrl ; // Ohm" ?
            Please help me clearly. Thank you so much !!!

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              wrote on last edited by
              #153

              Hello,
              I have read the sensitivity characteristics curve in datasheet of MQ135 and I don't know AL R, 3/4, 1/4* and +- mean? Can you help me, please !!!
              NH4 represent for NH3, doesn't it ?
              Thank you so much !!!

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                tantt2810
                wrote on last edited by
                #154

                Hi everyone,
                I have an CO2 MG811 sensor. I don't know where tcm pin connect with ?
                Please help me. Thank you so much !!!!
                0_1457101257425_F08406-CO2-Carbon-Dioxide-Sensor-Module-font-b-MG811-b-font-Voltage-0-2V-Voltage-Output.jpg

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                  TFPOK1
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #155

                  Hello, I'm working with an MQ-136 sensor, and am interested in measuring H2S and/or SO2 concentrations. I've got a simple sketch written which gives me a fairly consistent value on the serial monitor, but I've tried to run the multiple gas sensor sketch both complete and I also tried picking apart the sketch just to include MQ-136 related variables and algorithms, but I can't get it to work. It's showing too many errors to list here. Does anyone have simple conversions from the serial outputs to usable values for various gases that this sensor can measure?

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                  • Joel PérezJ Offline
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                    Joel Pérez
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #156

                    hello, how i read co2 ppm with my mq135?
                    helpme please

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                    • tantt2810T tantt2810

                      Hi everyone,
                      I have an CO2 MG811 sensor. I don't know where tcm pin connect with ?
                      Please help me. Thank you so much !!!!
                      0_1457101257425_F08406-CO2-Carbon-Dioxide-Sensor-Module-font-b-MG811-b-font-Voltage-0-2V-Voltage-Output.jpg

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                      epierre
                      Hero Member
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #157

                      @tantt2810 said:

                      Hi everyone,
                      I have an CO2 MG811 sensor. I don't know where tcm pin connect with ?
                      Please help me. Thank you so much !!!!

                      this is an analogic sensor, so VCC/Gnd to power it, and readings on analogic Aout

                      z-wave - Vera -> Domoticz
                      rfx - Domoticz <- MyDomoAtHome <- Imperihome
                      mysensors -> mysensors-gw -> Domoticz

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                      • epierreE Offline
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                        epierre
                        Hero Member
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #158

                        @tantt2810 sorry for not being more responsive, I left MQ/TGS behind me but I've not kept all my notes on mesuring this and that, that would require me to search for it again. But I appreciate if you can spot me some float/type error conversion in sketches !

                        z-wave - Vera -> Domoticz
                        rfx - Domoticz <- MyDomoAtHome <- Imperihome
                        mysensors -> mysensors-gw -> Domoticz

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                        • epierreE Offline
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                          epierre
                          Hero Member
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #159

                          I was a bit disappointed when a project I contributed to on Kickstarter showed the inside of their boxes, I wonder how they will manage to satisfy customers with calibration... or their home made index as netatmo did
                          0_1457255421408_sensly.png

                          z-wave - Vera -> Domoticz
                          rfx - Domoticz <- MyDomoAtHome <- Imperihome
                          mysensors -> mysensors-gw -> Domoticz

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                            moskovskiy82
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #160

                            Used the air quality script for MQ7 but throwed out all the conversions and calibrations. Just reading the plain input from the analogue pin.
                            I targeted this as a smoke detector but it seems this sensor highly depends on the humidity of the surrounding air. Are there any existing formulas to correct for the humidity of the surounding air?

                            And on one sensor i have some irratical data as shown below (blue). I wonder if it's a power supply (black and green is DHT) or a broken sensor?
                            alt text

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                            • M moskovskiy82

                              Used the air quality script for MQ7 but throwed out all the conversions and calibrations. Just reading the plain input from the analogue pin.
                              I targeted this as a smoke detector but it seems this sensor highly depends on the humidity of the surrounding air. Are there any existing formulas to correct for the humidity of the surounding air?

                              And on one sensor i have some irratical data as shown below (blue). I wonder if it's a power supply (black and green is DHT) or a broken sensor?
                              alt text

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                              epierre
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                              wrote on last edited by
                              #161

                              @moskovskiy82 well looks like a strange sensor... try averaging several samples/// always remember to have it running several days before measuring for there are chemical left from china factories...

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                              rfx - Domoticz <- MyDomoAtHome <- Imperihome
                              mysensors -> mysensors-gw -> Domoticz

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                                wrote on last edited by mfalkvidd
                                #162

                                Hey all,

                                I've got a question regarding the calibration function in https://github.com/empierre/arduino/blob/master/AirQuality-Multiple_Gas_Sensor1_4.ino :

                                $ grep MQCalibr *
                                AirQuality-Multiple_Gas_Sensor1_4.ino:  Ro0 = MQCalibration(MQ2_SENSOR,10,RL0,SmokeCurve);
                                AirQuality-Multiple_Gas_Sensor1_4.ino:  Ro1 = MQCalibration(MQ6_SENSOR,10,RL1,LPGCurve);
                                AirQuality-Multiple_Gas_Sensor1_4.ino:  Ro2 = MQCalibration(MQ131_SENSOR,10,RL2,O3Curve);
                                AirQuality-Multiple_Gas_Sensor1_4.ino:  Ro3 = MQCalibration(TGS2600_SENSOR,10,RL3,C2H5OH_terCurve);
                                AirQuality-Multiple_Gas_Sensor1_4.ino:  Ro4 = MQCalibration(MQ135_SENSOR,10,RL4,CO_secCurve);
                                AirQuality-Multiple_Gas_Sensor1_4.ino:  Ro6 = MQCalibration(TGS2602_SENSOR,1,RL6,C7H8Curve);
                                ....
                                AirQuality-Multiple_Gas_Sensor1_4.ino:float MQCalibration(int mq_pin, double ppm, double rl_value,float *pcurve )
                                

                                Th function MQCalibration should calibrate the sensor in clean air, the calibration function uses the PPM concentration of the gas in a clean air environment.
                                You already use the appropriate value for i.e. CO2 (around 399 PPM) in the MQ135 sketch - but why are you using those obscure values in the calibration (1, 10) here?

                                Thanks in advance!

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                                  Hey all,

                                  I've got a question regarding the calibration function in https://github.com/empierre/arduino/blob/master/AirQuality-Multiple_Gas_Sensor1_4.ino :

                                  $ grep MQCalibr *
                                  AirQuality-Multiple_Gas_Sensor1_4.ino:  Ro0 = MQCalibration(MQ2_SENSOR,10,RL0,SmokeCurve);
                                  AirQuality-Multiple_Gas_Sensor1_4.ino:  Ro1 = MQCalibration(MQ6_SENSOR,10,RL1,LPGCurve);
                                  AirQuality-Multiple_Gas_Sensor1_4.ino:  Ro2 = MQCalibration(MQ131_SENSOR,10,RL2,O3Curve);
                                  AirQuality-Multiple_Gas_Sensor1_4.ino:  Ro3 = MQCalibration(TGS2600_SENSOR,10,RL3,C2H5OH_terCurve);
                                  AirQuality-Multiple_Gas_Sensor1_4.ino:  Ro4 = MQCalibration(MQ135_SENSOR,10,RL4,CO_secCurve);
                                  AirQuality-Multiple_Gas_Sensor1_4.ino:  Ro6 = MQCalibration(TGS2602_SENSOR,1,RL6,C7H8Curve);
                                  ....
                                  AirQuality-Multiple_Gas_Sensor1_4.ino:float MQCalibration(int mq_pin, double ppm, double rl_value,float *pcurve )
                                  

                                  Th function MQCalibration should calibrate the sensor in clean air, the calibration function uses the PPM concentration of the gas in a clean air environment.
                                  You already use the appropriate value for i.e. CO2 (around 399 PPM) in the MQ135 sketch - but why are you using those obscure values in the calibration (1, 10) here?

                                  Thanks in advance!

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                                  @wreiner said:

                                  Th function MQCalibration should calibrate the sensor in clean air, the calibration function uses the PPM concentration of the gas in a clean air environment.
                                  You already use the appropriate value for i.e. CO2 (around 399 PPM) in the MQ135 sketch - but why are you using those obscure values in the calibration (1, 10) here?

                                  Well, I didn't know the concentration in clean air so I had to put in a value even random... I took the hypothesis there are very few in the air so low value.

                                  z-wave - Vera -> Domoticz
                                  rfx - Domoticz <- MyDomoAtHome <- Imperihome
                                  mysensors -> mysensors-gw -> Domoticz

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                                  • epierreE epierre

                                    @tantt2810 said:

                                    Hi everyone,
                                    I have an CO2 MG811 sensor. I don't know where tcm pin connect with ?
                                    Please help me. Thank you so much !!!!

                                    this is an analogic sensor, so VCC/Gnd to power it, and readings on analogic Aout

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                                    @epierre
                                    Thank you. Your mean is Vcc->5V, GND->GND, Dout->Digital pin, Aout->Analog pin. Is it right?
                                    But I don't know the tcm pin connect with ? I have read datasheet but I don't find any info about tcm pin. Please help me. Thank you so much !!!

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                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #165

                                      @epierre

                                      Readings of my MQ135 are going up and down like a yo-yo. Not sure how to read them really?
                                      What do you think?

                                      0_1457656109114_Screenshot (18).png

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                                        #166

                                        I am confused with MiCS 4514 sensor. What I had done is :

                                        using MiCS quick start evaluation board, measured ADC value
                                        calculated Vout and from that calculated R0.
                                        Rs/R0 concentration gives me high value, which is not possible, My data is as follows
                                        clean air file is used for the purpose of R0 value
                                        https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8sF8a6FHoseWjhWOHRoYzIxakk/view?usp=sharing
                                        and Polluted file is used to calculate the actual pollution
                                        https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8sF8a6FHoseR1BnclhCUHdibEU/view?usp=sharing

                                        I am confused. Please help me

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                                        • tantt2810T tantt2810

                                          @epierre
                                          Thank you. Your mean is Vcc->5V, GND->GND, Dout->Digital pin, Aout->Analog pin. Is it right?
                                          But I don't know the tcm pin connect with ? I have read datasheet but I don't find any info about tcm pin. Please help me. Thank you so much !!!

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                                          epierre
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                                          wrote on last edited by epierre
                                          #167

                                          @tantt2810 said:

                                          @epierre
                                          Thank you. Your mean is Vcc->5V, GND->GND, Dout->Digital pin, Aout->Analog pin. Is it right?
                                          But I don't know the tcm pin connect with ? I have read datasheet but I don't find any info about tcm pin. Please help me. Thank you so much !!!

                                          do not use the digital pin !!! it only reacts with the potentiometer in on/off mode, so useless... you need to power the device with Vcc/Gnd, and read the output with Aout (A stands for analog). The last one forget it.

                                          z-wave - Vera -> Domoticz
                                          rfx - Domoticz <- MyDomoAtHome <- Imperihome
                                          mysensors -> mysensors-gw -> Domoticz

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