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NRF24L01+ mini VS normal size module ?

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  • ahmedadelhosniA Offline
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    #1

    Hello,

    Did anybody find any differences between the normal size module and the mini one ?
    The mini is much smaller and can be better in some cases.

    http://g03.a.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1zGdRJFXXXXXiXFXXq6xXFXXXj/Free-shipping-10pcs-lot-SMD-NRF24L01-2-4G-wireless-data-transmission-module-Mini-NRF24L01-wireless-module.jpg_640x640.jpg

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    • OitzuO Offline
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      No there are not really differences. But i wouldn't trust the blob one, you found, but instead this:
      http://g03.a.alicdn.com/kf/HTB19VMjKpXXXXacXXXXq6xXFXXXx/1-Mini-Board-NRF24L01-SMD-1-7MM-Wireless-Transceiver-Module-1-9-3-6V.jpg

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      • OitzuO Oitzu

        No there are not really differences. But i wouldn't trust the blob one, you found, but instead this:
        http://g03.a.alicdn.com/kf/HTB19VMjKpXXXXacXXXXq6xXFXXXx/1-Mini-Board-NRF24L01-SMD-1-7MM-Wireless-Transceiver-Module-1-9-3-6V.jpg

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        ahmedadelhosni
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        #3

        @Oitzu Yeah right. I have been reading through different posts and some have already reported that blob ones could be fake. Thanks.

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        • ahmedadelhosniA ahmedadelhosni

          @Oitzu Yeah right. I have been reading through different posts and some have already reported that blob ones could be fake. Thanks.

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          Yveaux
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          #4

          @ahmedadelhosni said:

          blob ones could be fake

          Blob ones are fakes. Period.

          http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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          • YveauxY Yveaux

            @ahmedadelhosni said:

            blob ones could be fake

            Blob ones are fakes. Period.

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            Yveaux
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            #5

            @Yveaux said:

            Blob ones are fakes

            That doesn't necessarily mean they won't work :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:

            http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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            • YveauxY Yveaux

              @Yveaux said:

              Blob ones are fakes

              That doesn't necessarily mean they won't work :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:

              ahmedadelhosniA Offline
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              ahmedadelhosni
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              #6

              @Yveaux better get away from them :)

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              • ahmedadelhosniA ahmedadelhosni

                @Yveaux better get away from them :)

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                @ahmedadelhosni If you have some spare time, very interesting readings:
                http://forum.mysensors.org/topic/1664/which-are-the-best-nrf24l01-modules
                http://forum.mysensors.org/topic/1153/we-are-mostly-using-fake-nrf24l01-s-but-worse-fakes-are-emerging

                http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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                • YveauxY Yveaux

                  @ahmedadelhosni If you have some spare time, very interesting readings:
                  http://forum.mysensors.org/topic/1664/which-are-the-best-nrf24l01-modules
                  http://forum.mysensors.org/topic/1153/we-are-mostly-using-fake-nrf24l01-s-but-worse-fakes-are-emerging

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                  @YveauxThanks.

                  I have already read some of the posts today :) That's why I knew the blob issue.

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                  • ahmedadelhosniA Offline
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                    So is this supplier which is on the store trusted :)
                    http://www.aliexpress.com/item/10PCS-PCS-LOT-nrf24l01-power-strengthen-edition-2-4g-wireless-module-nrf24l01-module/817000009.html?aff_platform=aaf&aff_trace_key=b61e7ab9ccf84594a71ccfd1a0678185-1454261137200-03979-ZBeQv76Qj&sk=ZBeQv76Qj%3A&cpt=1454261137200

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                    • ahmedadelhosniA ahmedadelhosni

                      So is this supplier which is on the store trusted :)
                      http://www.aliexpress.com/item/10PCS-PCS-LOT-nrf24l01-power-strengthen-edition-2-4g-wireless-module-nrf24l01-module/817000009.html?aff_platform=aaf&aff_trace_key=b61e7ab9ccf84594a71ccfd1a0678185-1454261137200-03979-ZBeQv76Qj&sk=ZBeQv76Qj%3A&cpt=1454261137200

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                      @ahmedadelhosni said:

                      is this supplier which is on the store trusted

                      Not a clue. According to Nordic, only official distributors can be trusted, but they'll charge you $20 + for a single module...
                      No wonder we all buy our stuff from China.

                      http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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                      • YveauxY Yveaux

                        @ahmedadelhosni said:

                        is this supplier which is on the store trusted

                        Not a clue. According to Nordic, only official distributors can be trusted, but they'll charge you $20 + for a single module...
                        No wonder we all buy our stuff from China.

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                        @Yveaux oh my GOD !! $20+ !
                        I searched on digikey and the highest price was 6~7 dollars and I thought this is expensive.
                        So I thought it is original https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/113990021/1597-1226-ND/5487768

                        You have a link to official distributors as I couldn't find on nordic website ?
                        Thanks.

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                        • ahmedadelhosniA Offline
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                          I also found it on sparkfun. 20$ ! According to you, this is original and the one from digikey is high copy for exmaple :) ?
                          https://www.sparkfun.com/products/691

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                          • ahmedadelhosniA ahmedadelhosni

                            @Yveaux oh my GOD !! $20+ !
                            I searched on digikey and the highest price was 6~7 dollars and I thought this is expensive.
                            So I thought it is original https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/113990021/1597-1226-ND/5487768

                            You have a link to official distributors as I couldn't find on nordic website ?
                            Thanks.

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                            @ahmedadelhosni said:

                            So I thought it is original https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/113990021/1597-1226-ND/5487768

                            Interesting find. Didn't know Digikey was reselling Seeed studio units!
                            Beware that this Seeed module is an amplified version, with regular antenna. That's quite a unique species :alien:

                            When visiting the Nordis Semi website on the bottom right you can search the nearest distributor. For me e.g. Mouser is reported, which sells these modules at E 35,21 a piece!
                            I can buy roughly 50 boards from China, for the same price.

                            I cannot tell if the ones from Digikey are genuine, or from Spartkfun; even Nordic has to put them through X-Ray to be absolutely sure.

                            http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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                            • YveauxY Yveaux

                              @ahmedadelhosni said:

                              So I thought it is original https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/113990021/1597-1226-ND/5487768

                              Interesting find. Didn't know Digikey was reselling Seeed studio units!
                              Beware that this Seeed module is an amplified version, with regular antenna. That's quite a unique species :alien:

                              When visiting the Nordis Semi website on the bottom right you can search the nearest distributor. For me e.g. Mouser is reported, which sells these modules at E 35,21 a piece!
                              I can buy roughly 50 boards from China, for the same price.

                              I cannot tell if the ones from Digikey are genuine, or from Spartkfun; even Nordic has to put them through X-Ray to be absolutely sure.

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                              @Yveaux
                              No wonder they are no longer in stock according to digikey :)

                              Thanks for the links. Actually I have searched earlier for the NRF in mouser but couldn't recognize it as there was no picture in the search result + I didn't imagine it will be 38$ :) http://www2.mouser.com/Search/Refine.aspx?Keyword=nrf24l01p

                              Thanks for your help.

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                                @Yveaux

                                mouser also sells seedstudio nrf24's (the amplified version).

                                if you want to buy the (genuine) chip only, it costs 1.56 at quantities of 4000.. (mouser prices).

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                                • tbowmoT tbowmo

                                  @Yveaux

                                  mouser also sells seedstudio nrf24's (the amplified version).

                                  if you want to buy the (genuine) chip only, it costs 1.56 at quantities of 4000.. (mouser prices).

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                                  @tbowmo Will it work Ok if I get a clone board but replaced the chip with the genuine one ? :) I mean does the genuine pcb differs also ?

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                                  • ahmedadelhosniA ahmedadelhosni

                                    @tbowmo Will it work Ok if I get a clone board but replaced the chip with the genuine one ? :) I mean does the genuine pcb differs also ?

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                                    @ahmedadelhosni yes it will (I did it myself) as long as you don't buy the blob ones :blush:

                                    http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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                                    • YveauxY Yveaux

                                      @ahmedadelhosni yes it will (I did it myself) as long as you don't buy the blob ones :blush:

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                                      @Yveaux Great. That's really amazaing :)

                                      Sorry for lots of questions. But did you monitor any great differences between both chips ? or is it life time ? or what ?

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                                      • ahmedadelhosniA ahmedadelhosni

                                        @Yveaux Great. That's really amazaing :)

                                        Sorry for lots of questions. But did you monitor any great differences between both chips ? or is it life time ? or what ?

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                                        @ahmedadelhosni I still have to discover a clear difference between clones and genuine chips. Power consumption seems different, but not clearly... That's what one of the discussions is about: how can we tell the difference.
                                        Nordic might know, but until now they didn't want to share with us.

                                        http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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                                        • YveauxY Yveaux

                                          @ahmedadelhosni I still have to discover a clear difference between clones and genuine chips. Power consumption seems different, but not clearly... That's what one of the discussions is about: how can we tell the difference.
                                          Nordic might know, but until now they didn't want to share with us.

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                                          @Yveaux Yes I have checked the nordic website regarding the power consumption and they are nearly the same in deep sleep.

                                          Anyway, thanks a lot for the discussion :)

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