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  • epierreE epierre

    I'm now testing the MICS-6814 (3 sensors in one) given for :
    Carbon monoxide CO 1 -1000ppm
    **Nitrogen dioxide NO2 0.05 –10ppm **
    Ethanol C2H5OH 10 –500ppm
    Hydrogen H2 1 –1000ppm
    Ammonia NH3 1 –500ppm
    Methane CH4 >1000ppm
    Propane C3H8 >1000ppm
    Iso-butane C4H10 >1000ppm

    Datasheet maionly speaks on CO, NO2 and NH3:
    http://www.seeedstudio.com/wiki/images/1/10/MiCS-6814_Datasheet.pdf

    Here is are scripts:
    http://www.seeedstudio.com/wiki/Grove_-_Multichannel_Gas_Sensor

    http://www.seeedstudio.com/wiki/images/1/10/MiCS-6814_Datasheet.pdf

    Some readings:

    The concentration of NH3 is 0.99 ppm
    The concentration of CO is 1.20 ppm
    The concentration of NO2 is 0.15 ppm
    The concentration of C3H8 is 1000.04 ppm
    The concentration of C4H10 is 999.98 ppm
    The concentration of CH4 is 2991.14 ppm
    The concentration of H2 is 1.09 ppm
    The concentration of C2H5OH is 1.40 ppm
    

    I guess I'll make a script soon...

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    Vir
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    #184

    Hi, It all make sense, I am just confused that in your code once your multiply and once you divide...

    case CO:
    {
    if(ratio1 < 0.01) ratio1 = 0.01;
    if(ratio1 > 3) ratio1 = 3;
    //c = pow(10, 0.6) / pow(ratio1, 1.2);
    ** c = pow(ratio1, -1.179)4.385; //mod by jack*
    break;
    }
    case NO2:
    {
    if(ratio2 < 0.07) ratio2 = 0.07;
    if(ratio2 > 40) ratio2 = 40;
    //c = ratio2 / pow(10, 0.8);
    ** c = pow(ratio2, 1.007)/6.855; //mod by jack**
    break;
    }
    SO, what is the actual formula?

    Vir

    @epierre said:

    I'm now testing the MICS-6814 (3 sensors in one) given for :
    Carbon monoxide CO 1 -1000ppm
    **Nitrogen dioxide NO2 0.05 –10ppm **
    Ethanol C2H5OH 10 –500ppm
    Hydrogen H2 1 –1000ppm
    Ammonia NH3 1 –500ppm
    Methane CH4 >1000ppm
    Propane C3H8 >1000ppm
    Iso-butane C4H10 >1000ppm

    Datasheet maionly speaks on CO, NO2 and NH3:
    http://www.seeedstudio.com/wiki/images/1/10/MiCS-6814_Datasheet.pdf

    Here is are scripts:
    http://www.seeedstudio.com/wiki/Grove_-_Multichannel_Gas_Sensor

    http://www.seeedstudio.com/wiki/images/1/10/MiCS-6814_Datasheet.pdf

    Some readings:

    The concentration of NH3 is 0.99 ppm
    The concentration of CO is 1.20 ppm
    The concentration of NO2 is 0.15 ppm
    The concentration of C3H8 is 1000.04 ppm
    The concentration of C4H10 is 999.98 ppm
    The concentration of CH4 is 2991.14 ppm
    The concentration of H2 is 1.09 ppm
    The concentration of C2H5OH is 1.40 ppm
    

    I guess I'll make a script soon...

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    • epierreE epierre

      @tantt2810 said:

      Hello,
      I'm don't understand the recipe below. Why RL_Value(Load Resistance)(1023-raw_adc)/raw_adc)? Can you explain for me?
      Thank you so much !!!
      Input: raw_adc - raw value read from adc, which represents the voltage
      Output: the calculated sensor resistance
      Remarks: The sensor and the load resistor forms a voltage divider. Given the voltage
      across the load resistor and its resistance, the resistance of the sensor
      could be derived.
      float MQ2::MQResistanceCalculation(int raw_adc)
      RL_VALUE
      (1023-raw_adc)/raw_adc));

      in fact it is above described, you have a voltage, you want a resistance.
      https://learn.sparkfun.com/tutorials/voltage-dividers

      datasheet needs a value which is the Rs/Ro (called here RL) where
      Ro: sensor resistance at 100ppm of NH3 in the clean air.
      Rs:sensor resistance at various concentrations of gases

      here the formula is a simplification of this:

      float Vrl = val * ( 5.00 / 1024.0 ); // V
      float Rs = 20000 * ( 5.00 - Vrl) / Vrl ; // Ohm
      int ratio = Rs/Ro;
      ppm = 37143 * pow (ratio, -3.178);

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      wrote on last edited by
      #185

      What does 37143 represents, Rs? and -3.178 is a second value from your regression method, but what about the first value?
      Can you elaborate on ppm line, please
      Vir

      here the formula is a simplification of this:

      float Vrl = val * ( 5.00 / 1024.0 ); // V
      float Rs = 20000 * ( 5.00 - Vrl) / Vrl ; // Ohm
      int ratio = Rs/Ro;
      ppm = 37143 * pow (ratio, -3.178);

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      • B bhavika

        I am confused with MiCS 4514 sensor. What I had done is :

        using MiCS quick start evaluation board, measured ADC value
        calculated Vout and from that calculated R0.
        Rs/R0 concentration gives me high value, which is not possible, My data is as follows
        clean air file is used for the purpose of R0 value
        https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8sF8a6FHoseWjhWOHRoYzIxakk/view?usp=sharing
        and Polluted file is used to calculate the actual pollution
        https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8sF8a6FHoseR1BnclhCUHdibEU/view?usp=sharing

        I am confused. Please help me

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        #186

        @bhavika said:

        I am confused with MiCS 4514 sensor. What I had done is :

        using MiCS quick start evaluation board, measured ADC value
        calculated Vout and from that calculated R0.
        Rs/R0 concentration gives me high value, which is not possible, My data is as follows
        clean air file is used for the purpose of R0 value
        https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8sF8a6FHoseWjhWOHRoYzIxakk/view?usp=sharing
        and Polluted file is used to calculate the actual pollution
        https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8sF8a6FHoseR1BnclhCUHdibEU/view?usp=sharing

        I am confused. Please help me

        I am confused by the formula you are using, could you please explain?
        Pollution NO2 = (POWER((RS/R0)*(1/POWER(10,0.8068)),(1/1.01)))

        Pollution CO = POWER((RS/R0)*(1/POWER(10 , 0.5476)),(1/-0.8497)))

        is the actual formula like this?:

        pollution = POWER((ratio *(1/POWER(10, curve[0])),(1/[curve[1])))

        This is different than any other formulas discussed in this thread...
        Vir

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        • VirV Vir

          What does 37143 represents, Rs? and -3.178 is a second value from your regression method, but what about the first value?
          Can you elaborate on ppm line, please
          Vir

          here the formula is a simplification of this:

          float Vrl = val * ( 5.00 / 1024.0 ); // V
          float Rs = 20000 * ( 5.00 - Vrl) / Vrl ; // Ohm
          int ratio = Rs/Ro;
          ppm = 37143 * pow (ratio, -3.178);

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          wrote on last edited by
          #187

          so does 37164 represents the scaling factor and -3.178 the exponent?
          Vir
          @Vir said:

          What does 37143 represents, Rs? and -3.178 is a second value from your regression method, but what about the first value?
          Can you elaborate on ppm line, please
          Vir

          here the formula is a simplification of this:

          float Vrl = val * ( 5.00 / 1024.0 ); // V
          float Rs = 20000 * ( 5.00 - Vrl) / Vrl ; // Ohm
          int ratio = Rs/Ro;
          ppm = 37143 * pow (ratio, -3.178);

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            #188

            @epierre I have the problem with the dust sketch (shinyei ppd42ns). The following code does not work in MySensors 1.5

            ...
            gw.send(msgPM10.set("ppm"));
              ...
            gw.send(msgPM25.set("ppm")); 
            ...
            
            2016-04-24 14:44:19.438 Error: MySensors: Unknown/Invalid sensor type (43)
            2016-04-24 14:44:19.438 Error: MySensors: Unknown/Invalid sensor type (43)
            

            So far both PM10 and PM25 are showing zero. However, if I upload the following code, it works fine (one channel though):

            // Watch video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8r4CeQopfY
            
            /* 
             Connection:
             
             JST Pin 1 (Black Wire)  => Arduino GND
             JST Pin 3 (Red wire)    => Arduino 5VDC
             JST Pin 4 (Yellow wire) => Arduino Digital Pin 8
            
             Green Led connected to Arduino D7
             Yellow Led connected to Arduino D6
             Red Led connected to Arduino D5
             
             
            Dust Sensor possible application:
            - Applications of customer
            - Air quality sensor
            - Dustlessness workshop
            - Cigarette detector
            */
            
            /*
            Sensor is to create Digital (Lo Pulse) output to Particulate Matters (PM). Lo Pulse Occupancy time (LPO time) is in proportion
            to PM concentration. The output is for PM whose size is around 1 micro meter or larger. We can use the sensor to detect the dust in clean room.
            Minimum detect particle: 1um
            http://www.seeedstudio.com/wiki/Grove_-_Dust_Sensor
             Grove - Dust Sensor Demo v1.0
             Interface to Shinyei Model PPD42NS Particle Sensor
             Program by Christopher Nafis 
             Written April 2012
             
             http://www.seeedstudio.com/depot/grove-dust-sensor-p-1050.html
             http://www.sca-shinyei.com/pdf/PPD42NS.pdf
             */
            
            int pin = 8;
            unsigned long duration;
            unsigned long starttime;
            unsigned long sampletime_ms = 1000;//sampe 1s ;
            unsigned long lowpulseoccupancy = 0;
            float ratio = 0;
            float concentration = 0;
            int gLed = 7;
            int yLed = 6;
            int rLed = 5;
            
            void setup() {
              Serial.begin(9600);
              pinMode(8,INPUT);
              pinMode(gLed,OUTPUT);
              pinMode(yLed,OUTPUT);
              pinMode(rLed,OUTPUT);
              starttime = millis();//get the current time;
            }
            
            void loop() {
              duration = pulseIn(pin, LOW);
              lowpulseoccupancy = lowpulseoccupancy+duration;
            
              if ((millis()-starttime) > sampletime_ms)//if the sampel time == 30s
              {
                ratio = lowpulseoccupancy/(sampletime_ms*10.0);  // Integer percentage 0=>100
                concentration = 1.1*pow(ratio,3)-3.8*pow(ratio,2)+520*ratio+0.62; // using spec sheet curve
                Serial.print("concentration = ");
                Serial.print(concentration);
                Serial.print(" pcs/0.01cf  -  ");
                if (concentration < 1.0) {
                 Serial.println("It's a smokeless and dustless environment"); 
                 digitalWrite(gLed, HIGH);
                 digitalWrite(yLed, LOW);
                 digitalWrite(rLed, LOW);
              }
                if (concentration > 1.0 && concentration < 20000) {
                 Serial.println("It's probably only you blowing air to the sensor :)"); 
                 digitalWrite(gLed, HIGH);
                 digitalWrite(yLed, LOW);
                 digitalWrite(rLed, LOW);
                }
                
                if (concentration > 20000 && concentration < 315000) {
                 Serial.println("Smokes from matches detected!"); 
                 digitalWrite(gLed, LOW);
                 digitalWrite(yLed, HIGH);
                 digitalWrite(rLed, LOW);
                }
                  if (concentration > 315000) {
                 Serial.println("Smokes from cigarettes detected! Or It might be a huge fire! Beware!"); 
                 digitalWrite(gLed, LOW);
                 digitalWrite(yLed, LOW);
                 digitalWrite(rLed, HIGH);
              }
                
                lowpulseoccupancy = 0;
                starttime = millis();
              }
            }
            
            
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            • epierreE epierre

              Hello,

              sadly the discussions were lost...

              So let's start again on the subject:

              https://github.com/empierre/arduino

              Here is the list of my current experimentations:

              • MQ135.ino : for CO2/COV ... validated
                
              • MQ2.ino : for ethanol... needs pre-heat : ongoing
              • MQ6 sensor : just received
              • MQ131 sensor : just received
              • TGS2600 sensor : just received

              I'm getting serious a with a mega and a sensor board, 4 of them are connected together !

              The MQ135 is not on the list, I use it to measure CO2 in children's room...
              Values:

              • MQ2: 85 - Combustible gas and smoke
              • MQ6: 25 - Isobutane, Butane, LPG
              • MQ131: 57 - O3, CL2
              • TGS2600: 943 - ethanol, hydrogen, iso-butane, CO, Methane

              As discussed before, I would appreciate someone helping me reading the logarithmic curves in the datasheet (link on each sensor name above) to get the linear value based on analog reading. I need to learn reading it... thanks!

              as an example here in sandboxelectronics we saw that several values could be read from the datasheet:

              float           LPGCurve[3]  =  {2.3,0.21,-0.47};   //two points are taken from the curve.
                                                                  //with these two points, a line is formed which is "approximately equivalent"
                                                               //to the original curve.
                                                              //data format:{ x, y, slope}; point1: (lg200, 0.21), point2: (lg10000, -0.59)
              float           COCurve[3]  =  {2.3,0.72,-0.34};    //two points are taken from the curve.
                                                              //with these two points, a line is formed which is "approximately equivalent"
                                                              //to the original curve.
                                                              //data format:{ x, y, slope}; point1: (lg200, 0.72), point2: (lg10000,  0.15)
              float           SmokeCurve[3] ={2.3,0.53,-0.44};    //two points are taken from the curve.
                                                              //with these two points, a line is formed which is "approximately equivalent"
                                                              //to the original curve.
                                                              //data format:{ x, y, slope}; point1: (lg200, 0.53), point2: (lg10000,  -0.22)                                                    
              float           Ro           =  10;                 //Ro is initialized to 10 kilo ohms
              
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              wrote on last edited by
              #189

              @epierre hi, could remove some doubts regarding the mq131 sensor?
              thanks,
              Anne

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                epierre
                Hero Member
                wrote on last edited by
                #190

                @alexsh1 said:

                (shinyei ppd42ns)

                I corrected the following sketch which had bad yg/m3 to ppm conversion thanks to LouiS22 from Domoticz forum remark (type conversion errors leading to 0 values).

                https://github.com/empierre/arduino/blob/master/DustSensor_SamYoung_DSM501.ino

                I guess I'll have to do the same here (but I lack time...):
                DustSensor_Shinyei_PPD42NS.ino

                z-wave - Vera -&gt; Domoticz
                rfx - Domoticz &lt;- MyDomoAtHome &lt;- Imperihome
                mysensors -&gt; mysensors-gw -&gt; Domoticz

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                • epierreE epierre

                  @alexsh1 said:

                  (shinyei ppd42ns)

                  I corrected the following sketch which had bad yg/m3 to ppm conversion thanks to LouiS22 from Domoticz forum remark (type conversion errors leading to 0 values).

                  https://github.com/empierre/arduino/blob/master/DustSensor_SamYoung_DSM501.ino

                  I guess I'll have to do the same here (but I lack time...):
                  DustSensor_Shinyei_PPD42NS.ino

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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #191

                  @epierre Thanks - I'll have another go at Shinyei PPD42NS sketch once I have time. Ideally, I'd like to combine it with MH-Z14A sketch.

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                  • alexsh1A alexsh1

                    @epierre Thanks - I'll have another go at Shinyei PPD42NS sketch once I have time. Ideally, I'd like to combine it with MH-Z14A sketch.

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                    epierre
                    Hero Member
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #192

                    @alexsh1 which is a good idea, also a temp/him is quite usefull though I didn't added the impact in the formulas so far.

                    z-wave - Vera -&gt; Domoticz
                    rfx - Domoticz &lt;- MyDomoAtHome &lt;- Imperihome
                    mysensors -&gt; mysensors-gw -&gt; Domoticz

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                    • epierreE epierre

                      @alexsh1 which is a good idea, also a temp/him is quite usefull though I didn't added the impact in the formulas so far.

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                      wrote on last edited by alexsh1
                      #193

                      @epierre I have combined the two sketches - works just fine, but need to find a spare temp sensor.The hardware setup looks messy so adding an extra i2c sensor will complicate it even more. I'll come back with the combined three-in-one sketch shortly.

                      BTW, this

                      gw.send(msgPM25.set("ppm"));
                      

                      still throws the following error. What version MySensors are you using?

                       MySensors: Unknown/Invalid sensor type (43)
                      
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                      • epierreE epierre

                        @alexsh1 which is a good idea, also a temp/him is quite usefull though I didn't added the impact in the formulas so far.

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                        wrote on last edited by alexsh1
                        #194

                        @epierre I started looking at the formula you have used in ppmv calculation. Why do you need ppmv? All values in EPA or Europe are in μg/m3.

                        The ppmv equation is:

                        ppmv = mg/m^3 * (0.08205*T)/M 
                        

                        T = atmospheric temperature in kelvins = 273.15 + °C
                        M = molecular weight of the air pollutant = 28.97
                        (http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/molecular-mass-air-d_679.html - this is a good link)
                        0.08205 = Universal Gas Law constant in atm·l/(mol·K)

                        Your code for this equation is:

                        ppmv=(float)(((concentrationPM25*0.0283168)/100) * ((0.08205*temp)/0.01))/1000;
                        

                        Now, I think it should be as follows:

                        1. temp = °C + 273.15
                        int temp=273.15 + 22;
                        
                        

                        22C - is a typical temp inside though the intention is to use a sensor

                        1. The amended ppmv equation is going to be:
                        ppmv=(((concentrationPM25*0.0283168)/100) * ((0.08205*temp)/28.97))/1000;
                        

                        I have not changed 0.0283168 /100 - not sure that this is. And the whole thing is divided by 1000? why?

                        IMPORTANT UPDATE:

                        I have just received the following result:

                        
                        PM10: 7373
                        
                        send: 11-11-0-0 s=0,c=1,t=37,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,st=ok:1.744
                        
                        

                        If I use the following web-site http://www.herramientasingenieria.com/onlinecalc/ppm-mg_m3.php and the result is
                        mg/m3 = 7373 * 0.283168/100 = 2.08 mg/m3
                        The molecular weight is 28.97 for dry air

                        2.08 mg/m3 is equivalent to 1.74ppm for a gas with molecular weight=28.97 Pressure=1013.25, Temperature=22C 
                        

                        Success!
                        Now I have found a spare BMP280 (temp and pressure sensor) which I can use here.
                        Additionally, I need to use 24-h and 1 year averages - https://www3.epa.gov/airquality/particlepollution/2012/decfsstandards.pdf

                        Stay tuned!

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                        • alexsh1A alexsh1

                          @epierre I started looking at the formula you have used in ppmv calculation. Why do you need ppmv? All values in EPA or Europe are in μg/m3.

                          The ppmv equation is:

                          ppmv = mg/m^3 * (0.08205*T)/M 
                          

                          T = atmospheric temperature in kelvins = 273.15 + °C
                          M = molecular weight of the air pollutant = 28.97
                          (http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/molecular-mass-air-d_679.html - this is a good link)
                          0.08205 = Universal Gas Law constant in atm·l/(mol·K)

                          Your code for this equation is:

                          ppmv=(float)(((concentrationPM25*0.0283168)/100) * ((0.08205*temp)/0.01))/1000;
                          

                          Now, I think it should be as follows:

                          1. temp = °C + 273.15
                          int temp=273.15 + 22;
                          
                          

                          22C - is a typical temp inside though the intention is to use a sensor

                          1. The amended ppmv equation is going to be:
                          ppmv=(((concentrationPM25*0.0283168)/100) * ((0.08205*temp)/28.97))/1000;
                          

                          I have not changed 0.0283168 /100 - not sure that this is. And the whole thing is divided by 1000? why?

                          IMPORTANT UPDATE:

                          I have just received the following result:

                          
                          PM10: 7373
                          
                          send: 11-11-0-0 s=0,c=1,t=37,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,st=ok:1.744
                          
                          

                          If I use the following web-site http://www.herramientasingenieria.com/onlinecalc/ppm-mg_m3.php and the result is
                          mg/m3 = 7373 * 0.283168/100 = 2.08 mg/m3
                          The molecular weight is 28.97 for dry air

                          2.08 mg/m3 is equivalent to 1.74ppm for a gas with molecular weight=28.97 Pressure=1013.25, Temperature=22C 
                          

                          Success!
                          Now I have found a spare BMP280 (temp and pressure sensor) which I can use here.
                          Additionally, I need to use 24-h and 1 year averages - https://www3.epa.gov/airquality/particlepollution/2012/decfsstandards.pdf

                          Stay tuned!

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                          Hero Member
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #195

                          @alexsh1 said:

                          @epierre I started looking at the formula you have used in ppmv calculation. Why do you need ppmv? All values in EPA or Europe are in μg/m3.

                          because domoticz only knows ppm... and many AIQ like use only that except for particles.

                          1. temp = °C + 273.15
                            int temp=273.15 + 22;
                            22C - is a typical temp inside though the intention is to use a sensor

                          not for me ;-)

                          1. The amended ppmv equation is going to be:
                            ppmv=(((concentrationPM250.0283168)/100) * ((0.08205temp)/28.97))/1000;
                          I have not changed 0.0283168 /100 - not sure that this is. And the whole thing is divided by 1000? why?
                          

                          was a volume conversion

                          The molecular weight is 28.97 for dry air

                          2.08 mg/m3 is equivalent to 1.74ppm for a gas with molecular weight=28.97 Pressure=1013.25, Temperature=22C 
                          

                          Success!

                          success for the mysensors value ?

                          MySensors: Unknown/Invalid sensor type (43)
                          

                          Domoticz doesn't recognize this command... I use 1.5.x but I have my own gateway to domoticz

                          z-wave - Vera -&gt; Domoticz
                          rfx - Domoticz &lt;- MyDomoAtHome &lt;- Imperihome
                          mysensors -&gt; mysensors-gw -&gt; Domoticz

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                          • epierreE epierre

                            @alexsh1 said:

                            @epierre I started looking at the formula you have used in ppmv calculation. Why do you need ppmv? All values in EPA or Europe are in μg/m3.

                            because domoticz only knows ppm... and many AIQ like use only that except for particles.

                            1. temp = °C + 273.15
                              int temp=273.15 + 22;
                              22C - is a typical temp inside though the intention is to use a sensor

                            not for me ;-)

                            1. The amended ppmv equation is going to be:
                              ppmv=(((concentrationPM250.0283168)/100) * ((0.08205temp)/28.97))/1000;
                            I have not changed 0.0283168 /100 - not sure that this is. And the whole thing is divided by 1000? why?
                            

                            was a volume conversion

                            The molecular weight is 28.97 for dry air

                            2.08 mg/m3 is equivalent to 1.74ppm for a gas with molecular weight=28.97 Pressure=1013.25, Temperature=22C 
                            

                            Success!

                            success for the mysensors value ?

                            MySensors: Unknown/Invalid sensor type (43)
                            

                            Domoticz doesn't recognize this command... I use 1.5.x but I have my own gateway to domoticz

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                            @epierre Yes, all works fine now. I modified the combined sketch and here is the final result.

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                              Which one to use for detection of fire smoke? Currently have got several MQ-7 but they don't seem so good at it

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                                Which one to use for detection of fire smoke? Currently have got several MQ-7 but they don't seem so good at it

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                                @moskovskiy82 said:

                                Which one to use for detection of fire smoke? Currently have got several MQ-7 but they don't seem so good at it

                                as discussed just above, a particle sensor could be good for smoke is a particle concentration, coupled with heat this would be a good indicator

                                if (concentration > 315000) {
                                     Serial.println("Smokes from cigarettes detected! Or It might be a huge fire! Beware!"); 
                                

                                z-wave - Vera -&gt; Domoticz
                                rfx - Domoticz &lt;- MyDomoAtHome &lt;- Imperihome
                                mysensors -&gt; mysensors-gw -&gt; Domoticz

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                                  What about mq2 or mq135? Any experience? As a gas sensor will be more suitable detecting early fire

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                                    What about mq2 or mq135? Any experience? As a gas sensor will be more suitable detecting early fire

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                                    @moskovskiy82 said:

                                    What about mq2 or mq135? Any experience? As a gas sensor will be more suitable detecting early fire

                                    please see what it does, this is not a gas sensor this only detect particle size whatever the gas...

                                    z-wave - Vera -&gt; Domoticz
                                    rfx - Domoticz &lt;- MyDomoAtHome &lt;- Imperihome
                                    mysensors -&gt; mysensors-gw -&gt; Domoticz

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                                      @moskovskiy82 said:

                                      What about mq2 or mq135? Any experience? As a gas sensor will be more suitable detecting early fire

                                      please see what it does, this is not a gas sensor this only detect particle size whatever the gas...

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                                      @epierre
                                      It still detects concentration. Both state CO detection. So in case of fire won't they detect the increase in concentration much faster that the particle sensor like Sharp’s GP2Y1010AU0F or alternative?

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                                        @epierre
                                        It still detects concentration. Both state CO detection. So in case of fire won't they detect the increase in concentration much faster that the particle sensor like Sharp’s GP2Y1010AU0F or alternative?

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                                        @moskovskiy82 For a fire smoke, you can use pretty much any gas or particle sensor - there are a quite few gases formed during the burning process. MQ2 is highly sensitivity and has a fast response time. I can recommend it for a fire detection usage. However, I have been disappointed in MQ* sensors in general - there are not accurate, require 24h heat-up time, consume a lot of power etc. The only advantage is the price.

                                        To detect fire to can use a flame sensor - http://www.instructables.com/id/Flame-detection-using-Arduino-and-flame-sensor/

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                                          Can someone tell me how to read this line?

                                          float mq135_ro = 10000.0;    // this has to be tuned 10K Ohm
                                          

                                          Do I have to messure the sensor and adjust the variable or do I have to tune the resistance? If I have to do the first thing, when do I have to messure it? In warm state and clean air with a multimeter?

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