Air Quality Sensor

[alexsh1]

@paqor yes, in fact my MQ-135 was so unreliable that I had to move on to a different sensor

[paqor]

Those interested in a 4 sensors Sketch FHEM (CO2, Temp, Hum, Motion) has ...

[A Former User]

@paqor
I'm interested, but i'm using mysensors 2.0. Can you update your sketch?

[paqor]

@gieljnssns said:

@paqor
I'm interested, but i'm using mysensors 2.0. Can you update your sketch?

Yes, sure but I need time. I'm not a good programmer and need a lot of testing. My Englich is not particularly good. As some patience please, because I have to house, garden, woman and taking care of animals. :two_men_holding_hands:

[paqor]

@gieljnssns said in Air Quality Sensor:

@paqor
I'm interested, but i'm using mysensors 2.0. Can you update your sketch?

@paqor
https://gleisnetze.de/2016/08/07/sensoren4sketch/

• v0.8 korrigierte Lib von RSTOICA
• EEPROM set R0Cor
• amended mq135.h required!
• Temp, Hum --> CO2Cor
• Api 2.0
• Motion is not yet tested
• Auto base value set r0corr if Co2cor <390
• R0Cor set by TextField runs (incoming message)
• Redesign

[paqor]

@paqor
Probably one should not speak of a sensor CO2 value as well as responding to many other particles at the MQ135. The most accurate CO2 measurement we certainly be possible only with a MH-Z14. I now have to buy me a part and will then calibrate the MQ135 so. With the MQ135 can z. B. only say something about the air quality in relation to the outside air. It is rather a relative value.

Here the comparison of MH-14T (yellow) and MQ135 (red). One sees the calibration and as yet are both curves to each other.
[https://smarthome.gleisnetze.de/38-mhz-14-erste-erfahrungen-mit-dem-co2-sensor-fuer-mysensors-arduino-fhem]

Wahrscheinlich sollte man beim MQ135 nicht von einem CO2 Wert sprechen da der Sensor auch auf viele andere Partikel reagiert. Die genaueste CO2 Messung wir sicher nur mit einem MH-Z14 möglich sein. Ich habe mir jetzt so ein Teil bestellt und werde dann den MQ135 damit kalibrieren. Mit dem MQ135 lässt sich z. B. nur etwas zur Luftgüte im Verhältnis zur Außenluft sagen. Es ist also eher ein relativer Wert.

[ysinh]

@tuimanso
There seems a general misunderstanding about how those gas sensors really work: the "heater" must be switched on (5v) and "off"(1.4v) for the air sample going in and out of the sensor, when heating the air sample expands and goes out of the sensor, then in the cool down period the remaining air contracts and sucks in a new sample.
Those boards with mq... sensors only provide fixed 5v heating, so this can never work reliable
the 1.4v is needed to keep the sensor on a minimum temperature,example 40'c for the catalyst to react, the 5v will heat it up to example 80'c, to clean the catalyst and air flows out of the sensor
http://i49.tinypic.com/2rzdqgn.png something like this will work
Soon I will report my results together with a modified sketch for mysensors 2.0

[bezeefly]

@epierre I am working on a dust sensor project using Samyoung DSM501A. I am confused with the identical calculation formula used in the Samyoung DSM501A and Shinyei PPD42NS dust sketch.

concentration = 1.1pow(ratio,3)-3.8pow(ratio,2)+520*ratio+0.62;

My understanding is that the formula is based on the specific product's data sheet curve. Is the formula for DSM501A, PPD42NS, or both?

[epierre]

@bezeefly said:

Samyoung DSM501A and Shinyei PPD42NS

This is formula for Shinyei, you're right, I'searched back but don't know if a formula was made out : https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/airqualityegg/A1F9padoW10

strangely here it is used too : http://learn.linksprite.com/arduino/shields/use-dust-sensor-dsm501-with-arduino/

a formula by Chris Nafis here: https://github.com/OSBSS/Samyoung_Dust_Sensor/blob/master/Samyoung_Dust_Sensor.ino

[bezeefly]

@epierre I obtained the following equation by polynomial fit the low ratio vs particle (pcs/283ml) graph in the DSM501 datasheet.

concentration = (0.1 * pow(ratio, 2)) + (619 * ratio) + 50;

Please help to check whether the equation is correct.

[epierre]

@bezeefly said:

@epierre I obtained the following equation by polynomial fit the low ratio vs particle (pcs/283ml) graph in the DSM501 datasheet.

concentration = (0.1 * pow(ratio, 2)) + (619 * ratio) + 50;

Please help to check whether the equation is correct.

looks correct for the red curve

using http://www.xuru.org/rt/PR.asp with:
4 2500
8 5000
12 7500
16 10000
20 12500
22 15000
gives =7,613212955POWER(B3;2) + 467,3617082B3 + 631,9862425

a bit better ;-)

and on the previous one datasheet http://www.mouser.com/ds/2/744/Seeed_101020012-838657.pdf:
2 1000
3.9 2000
5.8 3000
7.2 4000
9 5000
10 6000
11.3 7000
12.6 8000
y = 19.09464953 x2 + 383.1041412 x + 174.9189116

[jumping]

Hello,
I bought the classic MQ sensors (MQ2, MQ4 and MQ135) and I'm building a multisensor node with arduino nano v3:
@epierre can I use sketch https://github.com/empierre/arduino/blob/master/AirQuality-Multiple_Gas_Sensor1_4.ino, is it suitable?
thanks

[epierre]

@jumping you will need to scale down the script obviously, in term of power it will be too short to have more than one.

[jumping]

@epierre said:

@jumping you will need to scale down the script obviously, in term of power it will be too short to have more than one.

thanks for your answer! please, can you explain how the following code in your sketch is related to datasheet?

• float CO_secCurve[2] = {726.7809737, -4.040111669}; //MQ135

I understand the sketch in the "Gas Detection - Example", but not the previous.
sorry for my poor english :-)

[epierre]

@jumping see just above on power regressin curves, this is the result from a power regression based on the data sheet provided by one maker. Sometime I leave the data points in the sketch, sometime not (based on history ;-)

[ambuj]

@epierre Hi I am working on the MQ2 sensor, I want to know CO level. Did you do it before with this sensor?

http://www.amazon.in/Butane-Hydrogen-Sensor-Detector-Arduino/dp/B01N0XSQ9J?tag=googinhydr18418-21&tag=googinkenshoo-21&ascsubtag=9d5b3107-037a-4d7b-a8b9-722d0a4bcfea.

I am using this module and just start work with this sensor.

[Lukács Attila]

@epierre is it possible that the lastest github for Samyoung 501a is not correct? Flashed it and the results are way too high (157000 mg/m3)?

[surepic]

Ppm percentage calculations in the code seems wrong. Instead of providing rs/ro ratio to the function is transfered rs value not the ratio.

[epierre]

@ambuj please see the begining of the discussion regarding MQ like reliability

[epierre]

@lukács-attila check wiring first, seems there are several sub version around thay may need other values from datasheet