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💬 Building an Ethernet Gateway

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  • jopebeJ Offline
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    jopebe
    wrote on last edited by
    #88

    Thank You for Your quick respons!
    Yes, i made two slashes before the define-line of the radio .
    I have no debug-output because I didnt engage myself in debugging until now. I will try it this evening. During the day Im engaged in other things.

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      #89

      Here thr output of the seriel monitor:
      0;255;3;0;9;MCO:BGN:INIT GW,CP=R-NGA--,VER=2.1.1
      IP: 192.168.178.134
      0;255;3;0;9;Eth: connect
      0;255;3;0;9;MCO:BGN:STP
      0;255;3;0;9;MCO:REG:NOT NEEDED
      0;255;3;0;9;MCO:BGN:INIT OK,TSP=NA
      0;255;3;0;9;Eth: 0;101;1;0;2;1
      0;255;3;0;9;Eth: 0;101;1;0;2;0
      0;255;3;0;9;Eth: 0;101;1;0;2;1
      0;255;3;0;9;Eth: 0;101;1;0;2;0
      0;255;3;0;9;Eth: 0;101;1;0;2;1
      0;255;3;0;9;Eth: 0;101;1;0;2;0
      0;255;3;0;9;Eth: 0;101;1;0;2;1
      0;255;3;0;9;Eth: 0;101;1;0;2;0
      0;255;3;0;9;Eth: 0;101;1;0;2;0
      0;255;3;0;9;Eth: 0;101;1;0;2;1
      When I push the button in IoBroker-Vis, it takes often a lot of time until the LED is on; sometimes I have to push the button twice or more times; sometimes nothing happens at all.
      When I define and connect the radio with the same sketch, it runs as expected.

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      • jopebeJ jopebe

        Here thr output of the seriel monitor:
        0;255;3;0;9;MCO:BGN:INIT GW,CP=R-NGA--,VER=2.1.1
        IP: 192.168.178.134
        0;255;3;0;9;Eth: connect
        0;255;3;0;9;MCO:BGN:STP
        0;255;3;0;9;MCO:REG:NOT NEEDED
        0;255;3;0;9;MCO:BGN:INIT OK,TSP=NA
        0;255;3;0;9;Eth: 0;101;1;0;2;1
        0;255;3;0;9;Eth: 0;101;1;0;2;0
        0;255;3;0;9;Eth: 0;101;1;0;2;1
        0;255;3;0;9;Eth: 0;101;1;0;2;0
        0;255;3;0;9;Eth: 0;101;1;0;2;1
        0;255;3;0;9;Eth: 0;101;1;0;2;0
        0;255;3;0;9;Eth: 0;101;1;0;2;1
        0;255;3;0;9;Eth: 0;101;1;0;2;0
        0;255;3;0;9;Eth: 0;101;1;0;2;0
        0;255;3;0;9;Eth: 0;101;1;0;2;1
        When I push the button in IoBroker-Vis, it takes often a lot of time until the LED is on; sometimes I have to push the button twice or more times; sometimes nothing happens at all.
        When I define and connect the radio with the same sketch, it runs as expected.

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        korttoma
        Hero Member
        wrote on last edited by korttoma
        #90

        @jopebe are the relays and switches locally attached to the GW? Please post your sketch

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        • scalzS scalz

          @gvorster
          hello, i'm working on rfm69 (refactorization and adding features), which will support softspi and w5100, and uses a lot less memory. might be available soon.

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          Ed1500
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          #91

          @scalz A very late reply, but someone else might be helped with it.
          Hardware SPI is working.
          The onnly thing is that on W5100 shield it will work without any problem but with most 5100 modules you need a small modification fixing w5100 problems

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          • fifoF fifo

            My WizNET (W5100) Ethernet module had to be connected to 5v pin on arduino as the 3.3v would only allow ping but not function properly.

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            Ed1500
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            #92

            @fifo Most W5100 modules have a 5-3.3V regulator so if you connect the Vcc to 3V3 the chip just doesnt get enough juice

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            • jopebeJ Offline
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              jopebe
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              #93

              I dont know, how to send my sketch as a file. Copy and past doesnt run.
              I use an ethernet-shield and as I mentioned, when I connect and switch on the radio, everything is alrigth.

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                #94

                Thank You to all, who tried to help.
                I think, I found the solution:
                There was this line in the sketch: "const unsigned long tUpdate=60000; //update interval"
                When I changed the time to 6000, it runs as when as the radio was connected.
                So it was probably missing some kind of "interrupt", which usually comes from the radio , when it listens to the nodes or so?

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                  Newzwaver
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                  #95

                  hi everyone,

                  has the pin setup changed? it looks like it has from the sketch. I used a0, a1 and a2 for the radio.

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                  • N Newzwaver

                    hi everyone,

                    has the pin setup changed? it looks like it has from the sketch. I used a0, a1 and a2 for the radio.

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                    mfalkvidd
                    Mod
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                    #96

                    @Newzwaver Which sketch do you mean? The build page is still using a0, a1, a2 for W5100.

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                      #97

                      Ok, I screwed up and downloaded the latest arduino software 1.8.3 and can't get my libraries to work correctly. I am trying to upgrade my sensors to 2.1.1 and rebuild my gateway using a new nano I put together. I am using the5100 connection with the radio wired to a0..... It the 1.8.3 not to be used for the overseas board?

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                        #98

                        I have just built a W5100 based Ethernet gateway using a pro mini, NRF24LR and I enabled Soft Signinig - using the latest mysensors github development version 2.2.0-beta I am getting Low on memory messages when I compile and load this - if I disable Signing it does not complain. I have noticed several random crashes with signing enabled however i have secure nodes so need singing support. Is there something I am doing wrong or is the latest dev image causing this to occur. I have Debugging all disabled and burning to a stock 5V 16Mhz device.

                        Sketch uses 25476 bytes (82%) of program storage space. Maximum is 30720 bytes.
                        Global variables use 1648 bytes (80%) of dynamic memory, leaving 400 bytes for local variables. Maximum is 2048 bytes.
                        Low memory available, stability problems may occur.

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                        • I itbeyond

                          I have just built a W5100 based Ethernet gateway using a pro mini, NRF24LR and I enabled Soft Signinig - using the latest mysensors github development version 2.2.0-beta I am getting Low on memory messages when I compile and load this - if I disable Signing it does not complain. I have noticed several random crashes with signing enabled however i have secure nodes so need singing support. Is there something I am doing wrong or is the latest dev image causing this to occur. I have Debugging all disabled and burning to a stock 5V 16Mhz device.

                          Sketch uses 25476 bytes (82%) of program storage space. Maximum is 30720 bytes.
                          Global variables use 1648 bytes (80%) of dynamic memory, leaving 400 bytes for local variables. Maximum is 2048 bytes.
                          Low memory available, stability problems may occur.

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                          mfalkvidd
                          Mod
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #99

                          @itbeyond you'll need to find a way to save flash and ram, or use a microcontroller that has more flash and ram.

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                          • I itbeyond

                            I have just built a W5100 based Ethernet gateway using a pro mini, NRF24LR and I enabled Soft Signinig - using the latest mysensors github development version 2.2.0-beta I am getting Low on memory messages when I compile and load this - if I disable Signing it does not complain. I have noticed several random crashes with signing enabled however i have secure nodes so need singing support. Is there something I am doing wrong or is the latest dev image causing this to occur. I have Debugging all disabled and burning to a stock 5V 16Mhz device.

                            Sketch uses 25476 bytes (82%) of program storage space. Maximum is 30720 bytes.
                            Global variables use 1648 bytes (80%) of dynamic memory, leaving 400 bytes for local variables. Maximum is 2048 bytes.
                            Low memory available, stability problems may occur.

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                            gohan
                            Mod
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #100

                            @itbeyond you could use a Mega 2560 or use a raspberry pi as gateway (if you already have one)

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                            • mfalkviddM mfalkvidd

                              @itbeyond you'll need to find a way to save flash and ram, or use a microcontroller that has more flash and ram.

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                              #101

                              @mfalkvidd I this just how it is going to be on W5100 if we enable signing support - we must use a different chip? The Ethernet Gateway has nothing but the basic sketch with LED's enabled and soft signing.

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                                @mfalkvidd I this just how it is going to be on W5100 if we enable signing support - we must use a different chip? The Ethernet Gateway has nothing but the basic sketch with LED's enabled and soft signing.

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                                Mod
                                wrote on last edited by mfalkvidd
                                #102

                                @itbeyond probably. I guess the w5100 library uses a lot of ram and flash. The crypto for software signing uses a lot as well.

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                                  Anticimex
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                                  #103

                                  Atmga328p is not suitable as a gateway if you want ethernet and security. It simply does not have enough storage.

                                  Do you feel secure today? No? Start requiring some signatures and feel better tomorrow ;)

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                                  • AnticimexA Anticimex

                                    Atmga328p is not suitable as a gateway if you want ethernet and security. It simply does not have enough storage.

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                                    Ed1500
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                                    #104

                                    @Anticimex I do agree. It CAN be used, but it is just a bad choice as the ethernet libraries do not leave much space for much else.
                                    ENC28J60 in that aspect is worse than the W5100.
                                    I tried it more like a proof of concept and it does work pretty well just passing data, but I put everything on an ESP8266. OK, WiFi rather than Ethernet but thats OK for me

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                                      @Anticimex I do agree. It CAN be used, but it is just a bad choice as the ethernet libraries do not leave much space for much else.
                                      ENC28J60 in that aspect is worse than the W5100.
                                      I tried it more like a proof of concept and it does work pretty well just passing data, but I put everything on an ESP8266. OK, WiFi rather than Ethernet but thats OK for me

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                                      Anticimex
                                      Contest Winner
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #105

                                      @Ed1500 I run a gateway on a nano with all security features. But it runs as a serial gateway.

                                      Do you feel secure today? No? Start requiring some signatures and feel better tomorrow ;)

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                                        #106

                                        @mfalkvidd, @Anticimex & @Ed1500,

                                        Thanks I have ordered a Mega 2560 to use as the gateway. I think it would be super helpful to have the specs better identified in the main topic of the Building and Ethernet Gateway (and other Gateway pages) page - maybe a table with suitable controllers for the most common configurations. It would have saved me the hassle and I am sue I will not be the first to run into this. I too was using a 328p with security via serial and did not even think I would have a problem with memory when converting the Ethernet.

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                                          Mod
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                                          #107

                                          In principle it is the same everywhere: the more libraries you add, the more memory you use as it is like you are writing a longer code. It's the basic of programming and arduino ide is reporting how much memory a sketch uses, so you can see yourself how much more memory is used when you add extra libraries.

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