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Rebuild NETATMO Wind Sensor

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  • Martin TellblomM Offline
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    Martin Tellblom
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    Hi,
    Anyone rebuilt NETATMO wind sensor to work with mysensors? Or some other system.

    I have used Netatmo for about three years now and I am quite disappointed over what I can do with it.

    So has anyone rebuild the windsensor to report to another system like mysensors or so.

    What I'm after is to use the ultrasonicpart of the sensor and report to my inhouse mysensors gateway.

    MySensors MQTT Client Gateway, Openhab, Dashing, Razberry, 1-wire

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    • gohanG Offline
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      gohan
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      Given the price of netatmo devices I believe not many people are willing to tinker too much with them 😁
      Btw, what kind of sensor is it using?

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      • Martin TellblomM Offline
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        Yes you are right, it is costly, but if I with a handheld anemometer and another with "spoons" at the same place can read a windspeed of 18m/s and Netatmo says 7 m/s (and there is nothing to configure regarding to Netatmos support) I would like to be able to do my own calibration.

        What Ultrasonic sensor or what did you mean?

        MySensors MQTT Client Gateway, Openhab, Dashing, Razberry, 1-wire

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        • Martin TellblomM Martin Tellblom

          Yes you are right, it is costly, but if I with a handheld anemometer and another with "spoons" at the same place can read a windspeed of 18m/s and Netatmo says 7 m/s (and there is nothing to configure regarding to Netatmos support) I would like to be able to do my own calibration.

          What Ultrasonic sensor or what did you mean?

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          @martin-tellblom how is it measuring wind speed?

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          • Martin TellblomM Offline
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            It measure it with four ultrasonic transducers that bounces their beam as you can see in this picture:
            alt text

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              I'm not getting the principle of the sensor...

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              • Martin TellblomM Martin Tellblom

                It measure it with four ultrasonic transducers that bounces their beam as you can see in this picture:
                alt text

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                @martin-tellblom Do you have any pics of the inside of the sensor? e.g. How the transducers are mounted?
                Netatmo seem to be STM32 fanboys. Maybe you can reprogram them to run MySensors? ;-)

                http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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                • gohanG gohan

                  I'm not getting the principle of the sensor...

                  zboblamontZ Offline
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                  @gohan Doppler ?

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                    I don't know, I can't tell if there are any moving parts or if it is static

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                      the top above the transducers are plat and it says in the isntruction that you should avoid touching the area.

                      I have a broken outdoor sensor with temp, humid, Co2 and so on but there a very small ship on that one

                      MySensors MQTT Client Gateway, Openhab, Dashing, Razberry, 1-wire

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                      • gohanG gohan

                        I don't know, I can't tell if there are any moving parts or if it is static

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                        Martin Tellblom
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                        @gohan Its static

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                        • YveauxY Yveaux

                          @martin-tellblom Do you have any pics of the inside of the sensor? e.g. How the transducers are mounted?
                          Netatmo seem to be STM32 fanboys. Maybe you can reprogram them to run MySensors? ;-)

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                          @yveaux said in Rebuild NETATMO Wind Sensor:

                          Netatmo seem to be STM32 fanboys. Maybe you can reprogram them to run MySensors? ;-)

                          The problem would be to recover the algorithm to run those 4 trasducers

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                            Martin Tellblom
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                            There is a good one here
                            https://soldernerd.com/category/arduino-ultrasonic-anemometer/
                            And another one for a selfbuild like the Netatmo uses with bouncing

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                              I wonder how much power they use to run. Indeed it is a nice solution that has no moving parts so it should need much less maintenance.

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                                @gohan Where I live we can't have one with moving parts, There is often over 35m/s in the winter storms.
                                Thats why I bought the Netatmo in the first place. But It's maybe better to build an own, I have a lot of the parts

                                MySensors MQTT Client Gateway, Openhab, Dashing, Razberry, 1-wire

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                                  Here is a very good page explaining the two methods of ultrasonic anemometers.
                                  http://www.dl1glh.de/ultrasonic-anemometer.html

                                  MySensors MQTT Client Gateway, Openhab, Dashing, Razberry, 1-wire

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