<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[Modifying IKEA Tradfri Sensor (E1525) timeout help wanted]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Hi all :)</p>
<p dir="auto">I am a complete noob, so please bear with me. I found this forum searching for an IKEA sensor hack, so seems like a good place to ask. Also, I hope everyone is keeping well in this climate.</p>
<p dir="auto">I have an older E1525 IKEA Tradfri motion sensor. The one with the dial on the back for timeout. The minimum setting available on this unit is 60 seconds, as can be set from the dial on the back that shows 1, 5, 10 (minutes). The problem is, that I find 60 seconds is not very useful when hooked up to something like Home Assistant as the sensor will show as 'Detected' for 60 seconds after motion has stopped. I get that the design makes sense when using Touchlink, but I don't.</p>
<p dir="auto">I was reading here: <a href="https://community.smartthings.com/t/making-xiaomi-motion-sensor-a-super-motion-sensor/139806" rel="nofollow ugc">https://community.smartthings.com/t/making-xiaomi-motion-sensor-a-super-motion-sensor/139806</a> that the Xiaomi Aqara sensor also has a minimum 60 second timeout, but was modified to be ~5 seconds. So I found myself here :) I would very much be grateful for some input on if this could be achieved with this sensor too.</p>
<p dir="auto">It appears that the dial is just a plain potentiometer marked B104. My first thought (and what I really hoped) was that the minimum resistance would not be zero, and just shorting the connections with a blob of solder might do the trick, but it looks like when it is in the '1' position, the potentiometer resistance is zero.</p>
<p dir="auto">I could be wrong about these components but: The potentiometer seems to feed into a transistor on the other side that is marked 7002, and there is also a resistor marked '623' (or 823).</p>
<p dir="auto">I found some photos of the PCB on twitter, as well as a couple of photos I have taken: <a href="https://imgur.com/a/UnqDxWl" rel="nofollow ugc">https://imgur.com/a/UnqDxWl</a></p>
<p dir="auto">So the question is: Is it possible to bypass this 60 second time out - or lower it to about 5 seconds? I am totally out of my depth here but would very much welcome any input as I enjoy the learning experience :) Thank you in advance for any and all help!</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/11090/modifying-ikea-tradfri-sensor-e1525-timeout-help-wanted</link><generator>RSS for Node</generator><lastBuildDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2026 15:11:51 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/11090.rss" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2020 09:52:14 GMT</pubDate><ttl>60</ttl><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Modifying IKEA Tradfri Sensor (E1525) timeout help wanted on Tue, 07 Dec 2021 02:43:50 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Hello everyone!</p>
<p dir="auto">Based on the quite useful reverse engineered schematic at <a href="https://hackaday.io/project/174308-tradfri-pir-motion-sensor-hacking" rel="nofollow ugc">https://hackaday.io/project/174308-tradfri-pir-motion-sensor-hacking</a> the measurements were somewhat sabotaged by the 2N7002 (see Connors comment "enables voltage dividers only when triggered").<br />
the transistor is controlled by the Elmos E931.96 PIR motion controller IC.<br />
The latter is programmable by the IKEA TRÅDFRI ICC-1 module's EFR32MG1P132F256GM32 MCU.<br />
E.g.</p>
<pre><code>2. Blind Time 
Ignores motion after the interrupt output is switched back to 0 
Range: 0.5s... 8s. 
The blind time is [Register Value] *0.5s 
 
3. Programmable pulse counter 
1... 4 pulses with sign change in between 
Amount of pulses = [Register Value] + 1 
 
4. Window time 
For noisy environments 
2s... 8s window 
Window time = [Register Value] * 2s + 2s
</code></pre>
<p dir="auto"><a href="https://github.com/basilfx/TRADFRI-Hacking" rel="nofollow ugc">https://github.com/basilfx/TRADFRI-Hacking</a> gives a good overview on that.</p>
<p dir="auto">What is the issue with tose 60s?</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.mysensors.org/post/111303</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.mysensors.org/post/111303</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[peter_s]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 07 Dec 2021 02:43:50 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Modifying IKEA Tradfri Sensor (E1525) timeout help wanted on Fri, 17 Apr 2020 17:24:26 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Ok, no worries. I'd like to thank you for spending your time on this :)</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.mysensors.org/post/105010</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.mysensors.org/post/105010</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[bob21]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2020 17:24:26 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Modifying IKEA Tradfri Sensor (E1525) timeout help wanted on Fri, 17 Apr 2020 15:46:19 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">I'm out of ideas, I'm giving up.<br />
You could try to tie the variable pin to ground but it could damage your sensor</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.mysensors.org/post/105007</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.mysensors.org/post/105007</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[electrik]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2020 15:46:19 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Modifying IKEA Tradfri Sensor (E1525) timeout help wanted on Fri, 17 Apr 2020 15:33:47 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">According to the pics I found, the MCU is a Silicon Labs Mighty Gecko EFR32MG1P132GI.</p>
<p dir="auto">With 1 probe to ground I tested:</p>
<p dir="auto">Pos leg with dial at 1 minute (min): 2.97V<br />
Pos leg with dial at 15 mins (max): 2.97V<br />
Neg leg with dial at 1 minute (min): 2.96V<br />
Neg leg with dial at 15 mins (max): 2.95V<br />
Variable leg with dial at 1 minute (min): 2.96V<br />
Variable leg with dial at 15 mins (max): 2.97V</p>
<p dir="auto">Seems like a very small change.. is this enough of a change to be useful?</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.mysensors.org/post/105006</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.mysensors.org/post/105006</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[bob21]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2020 15:33:47 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Modifying IKEA Tradfri Sensor (E1525) timeout help wanted on Fri, 17 Apr 2020 14:08:27 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">So, do you measure a voltage change on any of the pins of the potmeter when you change it?<br />
And what is the type of the MCU?</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.mysensors.org/post/105005</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.mysensors.org/post/105005</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[electrik]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2020 14:08:27 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Modifying IKEA Tradfri Sensor (E1525) timeout help wanted on Fri, 17 Apr 2020 13:15:13 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">My meter doesn't beep, but I get a reading of 0.1 between TP5_2 and the second pin from the right, this seems to be the lowest reading by far: <a href="https://imgur.com/a/RLFyOBP" rel="nofollow ugc">https://imgur.com/a/RLFyOBP</a> is this a sign that it is connected here?</p>
<p dir="auto">But, when I set the potmeter to minimum the Voltage = 2.95, and this doesn't change... the potmeter set to max is still 2.95V... :disappointed:</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.mysensors.org/post/105004</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.mysensors.org/post/105004</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[bob21]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2020 13:15:13 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Modifying IKEA Tradfri Sensor (E1525) timeout help wanted on Fri, 17 Apr 2020 10:01:45 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/bob21" aria-label="Profile: bob21">@<bdi>bob21</bdi></a> said in <a href="/post/105000">Modifying IKEA Tradfri Sensor (E1525) timeout help wanted</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p dir="auto">So with one probe on the variable leg, where to I test with the other probe?</p>
</blockquote>
<p dir="auto">Always to ground</p>
<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/bob21" aria-label="Profile: bob21">@<bdi>bob21</bdi></a> said in <a href="/post/105000">Modifying IKEA Tradfri Sensor (E1525) timeout help wanted</a>:</p>
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<p dir="auto">It looks like the variable leg first goes to TP5_1, then to TP5_2, then to the MCU, but it is not clear which pin: <a href="https://imgur.com/a/hbgOOBU" rel="nofollow ugc">https://imgur.com/a/hbgOOBU</a></p>
</blockquote>
<p dir="auto">With the continuity function of your multimeter (when it beeps if you short the probes) you can trace where it goes to.</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.mysensors.org/post/105001</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.mysensors.org/post/105001</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[electrik]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2020 10:01:45 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Modifying IKEA Tradfri Sensor (E1525) timeout help wanted on Fri, 17 Apr 2020 08:53:03 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Yeah sorry about that. My inexperience is probably exacerbating things :grimacing: thank you for putting up with me ;)</p>
<p dir="auto">I am looking at the potmeter, and I think I can fairly say the legs are like this: <a href="https://imgur.com/a/1bTBnUo" rel="nofollow ugc">https://imgur.com/a/1bTBnUo</a></p>
<p dir="auto">So with one probe on the variable leg, where to I test with the other probe?</p>
<p dir="auto">It looks like the variable leg first goes to TP5_1, then to TP5_2, then to the MCU, but it is not clear which pin: <a href="https://imgur.com/a/hbgOOBU" rel="nofollow ugc">https://imgur.com/a/hbgOOBU</a></p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.mysensors.org/post/105000</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.mysensors.org/post/105000</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[bob21]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2020 08:53:03 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Modifying IKEA Tradfri Sensor (E1525) timeout help wanted on Fri, 17 Apr 2020 04:19:19 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">It's confusing me.<br />
The potmeter has three legs. One is positive supply (VDD probably), one is ground and the other one should change voltage of you move the dial. You should measure between ground and the point you want to measure.</p>
<p dir="auto">Edit<br />
Now you should find out where this third leg is going to</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.mysensors.org/post/104992</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.mysensors.org/post/104992</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[electrik]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2020 04:19:19 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Modifying IKEA Tradfri Sensor (E1525) timeout help wanted on Thu, 16 Apr 2020 20:18:58 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Voltages:</p>
<p dir="auto">All 3 potmeter legs to MCU (blue): 2.9V - Does not change when potmeter moved<br />
All 3 potmeter legs to MCU (red): ~0.2mV-0.3mV - Does not change when potmeter moved</p>
<p dir="auto">Resistance:</p>
<p dir="auto">Top green on potmeter to MCU (red): 67K (turning dial does not change)<br />
Bottom green dot on potmeter to MCU (red): 67K at max time, 110K at minimum time<br />
Unmarked leg to MCU (red): 110K and does not change when potmeter moved</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.mysensors.org/post/104983</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.mysensors.org/post/104983</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[bob21]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2020 20:18:58 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Modifying IKEA Tradfri Sensor (E1525) timeout help wanted on Thu, 16 Apr 2020 19:47:44 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">So is the third leg of the potentiometer still connected to the MCU input on? And what do you measure there? The voltage should change of you change the position</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.mysensors.org/post/104982</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.mysensors.org/post/104982</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[electrik]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2020 19:47:44 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Modifying IKEA Tradfri Sensor (E1525) timeout help wanted on Thu, 16 Apr 2020 19:10:58 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">I think I may have screwed up one of the earlier measurements. I am using a better meter now, and I got this: <a href="https://imgur.com/a/AQk22sR" rel="nofollow ugc">https://imgur.com/a/AQk22sR</a></p>
<p dir="auto">The Blue pin, which I originally said was connected to the VDD pin appears to actually be connected to the ground shield over the chip - I got a reading of zero. The Red pin, I got a reading of 3V (there abouts) and this is the one connected to the VDD pin on the E93196. Turning the potentiometer did not change the voltage on this.</p>
<p dir="auto">I remeasured the resistance from the ground leg of the potmeter to top green dot is 77K, bottom green dot is zero when at 1 minute, both are at 77K when at 15 minutes</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.mysensors.org/post/104981</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.mysensors.org/post/104981</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[bob21]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2020 19:10:58 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Modifying IKEA Tradfri Sensor (E1525) timeout help wanted on Thu, 16 Apr 2020 18:34:44 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Yes like that. And make sure the meter is on voltage reading, and the plugs are also in the voltage measuring connections. So not in the current measuring ones</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.mysensors.org/post/104980</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.mysensors.org/post/104980</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[electrik]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2020 18:34:44 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Modifying IKEA Tradfri Sensor (E1525) timeout help wanted on Thu, 16 Apr 2020 18:21:24 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Sure, just to confirm though (because I've not measured anything like this before), I put one probe on the MCU pin and the other to ground? Ie. Battery negative? Sorry if this seems like a really dumb question :D</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.mysensors.org/post/104979</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.mysensors.org/post/104979</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[bob21]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2020 18:21:24 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Modifying IKEA Tradfri Sensor (E1525) timeout help wanted on Thu, 16 Apr 2020 14:42:41 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Can you measure the voltage on the pin of the MCU that is connected to the potmeter when it is in the lowest position?</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.mysensors.org/post/104970</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.mysensors.org/post/104970</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[electrik]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2020 14:42:41 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Modifying IKEA Tradfri Sensor (E1525) timeout help wanted on Thu, 16 Apr 2020 12:19:32 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Ok, this could be a no go.</p>
<p dir="auto">Looks like I can get some continuity between these points: <a href="https://imgur.com/a/PKPOJdk" rel="nofollow ugc">https://imgur.com/a/PKPOJdk</a></p>
<p dir="auto">So that would be connecting connecting VDD to ground?</p>
<p dir="auto">But, with a DMM set to 200k, I get a resistance reading of 66.7 between these points: <a href="https://imgur.com/a/4K0NPbP" rel="nofollow ugc">https://imgur.com/a/4K0NPbP</a> because of R12....</p>
<p dir="auto">Could this be the resistance that is putting that to 60 seconds? Could I connect those 2 green points? Or remove that Resistor and bridge with solder?</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.mysensors.org/post/104966</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.mysensors.org/post/104966</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[bob21]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2020 12:19:32 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Modifying IKEA Tradfri Sensor (E1525) timeout help wanted on Thu, 16 Apr 2020 11:59:18 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Gotcha. So we know that pin 4 on the E93196 is VDD, so if I get continuity from pin 4 on the E93196 to either the potentiometer leg or the MCU pin that I am going to be connecting it to, then it's a no go?</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.mysensors.org/post/104964</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.mysensors.org/post/104964</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[bob21]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2020 11:59:18 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Modifying IKEA Tradfri Sensor (E1525) timeout help wanted on Thu, 16 Apr 2020 10:07:30 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">if you don't connect VDD to GND, you won't. So you should measure that first.</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.mysensors.org/post/104963</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.mysensors.org/post/104963</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[electrik]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2020 10:07:30 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Modifying IKEA Tradfri Sensor (E1525) timeout help wanted on Thu, 16 Apr 2020 09:03:37 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">I can try - is there a possibility that I could fry it doing that?</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.mysensors.org/post/104962</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.mysensors.org/post/104962</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[bob21]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2020 09:03:37 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Modifying IKEA Tradfri Sensor (E1525) timeout help wanted on Thu, 16 Apr 2020 08:12:46 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Yes, that is what I expected. The voltage level is read by the MCU and used to set options in the sensor. I don't think you can change anything with it. You could try to connect the pin that goes to the MCU, to ground. But no success guaranteed...</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.mysensors.org/post/104960</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.mysensors.org/post/104960</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[electrik]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2020 08:12:46 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Modifying IKEA Tradfri Sensor (E1525) timeout help wanted on Thu, 16 Apr 2020 06:30:04 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Hi again,</p>
<p dir="auto">Ok understood. I have traced the other 2 legs.. One looks like a common between the 2 potentiometers, so input voltage? And the other appears to go to the MCU</p>
<p dir="auto"><a href="https://imgur.com/a/fjbcjA3" rel="nofollow ugc">https://imgur.com/a/fjbcjA3</a></p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.mysensors.org/post/104957</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.mysensors.org/post/104957</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[bob21]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2020 06:30:04 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Modifying IKEA Tradfri Sensor (E1525) timeout help wanted on Thu, 16 Apr 2020 03:56:21 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">The config options would be overwritten every time by the controller itself, so there is little chance that would work. Or you have to intercept every message to the sensor from the microcontroller...<br />
You could try one last thing and that is finding out where the other legs of the potmeter go to</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.mysensors.org/post/104952</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.mysensors.org/post/104952</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[electrik]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2020 03:56:21 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Modifying IKEA Tradfri Sensor (E1525) timeout help wanted on Wed, 15 Apr 2020 21:15:26 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">I was hoping maybe it would be a case of connecting via serial and issuing a few commands to set config options. I guess it's not.. Well I can use the sensor in a non-critical area. Thanks for taking a look for me :)</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.mysensors.org/post/104950</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.mysensors.org/post/104950</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[bob21]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2020 21:15:26 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Modifying IKEA Tradfri Sensor (E1525) timeout help wanted on Wed, 15 Apr 2020 18:44:36 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Than you would have to reprogram the entire chip, and that's quite some effort...</p>
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