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๐Ÿ’ฌ Building a Raspberry Pi Gateway

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  • gohanG Offline
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    #483

    Try to enable the SPI first. Then you could also try different linux distributions and see which one you like better ( I personally like dietpi more than the others ). You may also want to try to use Mysensors library from development branch that is now 2.2.0.
    I now have a dietpi + mysensors 2.2.0 + nrf24 and all running fine

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      @Roberto-Mo-Ca If you are using the nrf24 PA/LNA version you need to use a 5V->3.3V regulator otherwise you can connect to the 3.3v pin.

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      @marceloaqno said in ๐Ÿ’ฌ Building a Raspberry Pi Gateway:

      @Roberto-Mo-Ca If you are using the nrf24 PA/LNA version you need to use a 5V->3.3V regulator otherwise you can connect to the 3.3v pin.

      But why do we need to convert down from 5v to 3.3v? The pi does supply 3.3 on some pins.. Is this because the PA/LNA uses more mA?

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        yes, the 3.3v can't supply enough current. I am using some small adapters that have the AMS1117 and some capacitors that allow for a quick swap of radio modules when you need test them

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        • gohanG gohan

          yes, the 3.3v can't supply enough current. I am using some small adapters that have the AMS1117 and some capacitors that allow for a quick swap of radio modules when you need test them

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          @gohan said in ๐Ÿ’ฌ Building a Raspberry Pi Gateway:

          yes, the 3.3v can't supply enough current. I am using some small adapters that have the AMS1117 and some capacitors that allow for a quick swap of radio modules when you need test them

          Ok. Maybe this should be mentioned in the documentation page.

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            @gohan said in ๐Ÿ’ฌ Building a Raspberry Pi Gateway:

            yes, the 3.3v can't supply enough current. I am using some small adapters that have the AMS1117 and some capacitors that allow for a quick swap of radio modules when you need test them

            Ok. Maybe this should be mentioned in the documentation page.

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            @subutux could you explain where you would expect to find that note?

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              (obviously not here)
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                @gohan said in ๐Ÿ’ฌ Building a Raspberry Pi Gateway:

                yes, the 3.3v can't supply enough current. I am using some small adapters that have the AMS1117 and some capacitors that allow for a quick swap of radio modules when you need test them

                Ok. Maybe this should be mentioned in the documentation page.

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                @subutux it is mentioned as stated above that you need it, it is just skipping all the info that are in datasheets and are not stricly necessary to make the gateway

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                • gohanG gohan

                  @subutux it is mentioned as stated above that you need it, it is just skipping all the info that are in datasheets and are not stricly necessary to make the gateway

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                  @gohan said in ๐Ÿ’ฌ Building a Raspberry Pi Gateway:

                  @subutux it is mentioned as stated above that you need it, it is just skipping all the info that are in datasheets and are not stricly necessary to make the gateway

                  Well, I for one would like to know why we need to step-down from 5v to 3.3v. Just a simple statement that the LNA version requires more power that only the 5v can deliver on the pi.
                  @mfalkvidd Yeah I would mention it there. It mentions to use a regulator but not why.. I've read that line & was like, why? That's when I've started a search in the forums here.

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                    @gohan said in ๐Ÿ’ฌ Building a Raspberry Pi Gateway:

                    @subutux it is mentioned as stated above that you need it, it is just skipping all the info that are in datasheets and are not stricly necessary to make the gateway

                    Well, I for one would like to know why we need to step-down from 5v to 3.3v. Just a simple statement that the LNA version requires more power that only the 5v can deliver on the pi.
                    @mfalkvidd Yeah I would mention it there. It mentions to use a regulator but not why.. I've read that line & was like, why? That's when I've started a search in the forums here.

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                    @subutux I've updated the text. Do you think it is ok?

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                    • mfalkviddM mfalkvidd

                      @subutux I've updated the text. Do you think it is ok?

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                      @mfalkvidd said in ๐Ÿ’ฌ Building a Raspberry Pi Gateway:

                      @subutux I've updated the text. Do you think it is ok?

                      yup! thanks!

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                        Hi,
                        I'm having trouble setting up mysensor with this configuration.
                        Controler : Home assistant on a debian server. ip : 192.168.0.50
                        Gateway : rpi3, connected to the server trought ethernet. ip : 192.168.0.21
                        Sensor : simple door switch from the example scripts.

                        On both sensor and gateway the transport is a nrf24l01+ module. I bought 4 of them and they all worked in simpler projects (on both arduino and rpi).

                        The main problem is I can't get the rf24l01+ to work with mysensor. I checked the wiring multiple times a changed the module. Nothing changes.
                        I also tried to change the configuration settings but it has no effect :

                        I configured as :
                        ./configure --my-transport=nrf24 --my-gateway=ethernet --my-controller-ip-address=192.168.0.50 --my-port=5003

                        Here is what I got every time i launch mysgw :

                        /MySensors $ sudo ./bin/mysgw -d
                        mysgw: Starting gateway...
                        mysgw: Protocol version - 2.1.1
                        mysgw: MCO:BGN:INIT GW,CP=RNNG---,VER=2.1.1
                        mysgw: TSM:INIT
                        mysgw: TSF:WUR:MS=0
                        mysgw: !TSM:INIT:TSP FAIL
                        mysgw: TSM:FAIL:CNT=1
                        mysgw: TSM:FAIL:PDT
                        mysgw: TSM:FAIL:RE-INIT

                        I used the wiring described in the script but without a voltage regulator. so I also checked the voltage received by the nrf24l01+ and it's a steady 3.3v.

                        What's wrong here ? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

                        --

                        On another topic, home assistant doesn't seem to provide support for mysensor 2.1 protocol. Should I downgrade to 2.0 ?
                        Obviously the controler can't connect to the gateway presently since the gateway isn't launching properly.
                        Home assistant is constantly whining about it :

                        Here is what I get from home automation console :

                        Error (Thread-13) [mysensors.gateway_tcp] Failed to connect to socket at ('192.168.0.21', 5003).

                        and here is my configuration.yaml extract :

                        mysensors:
                        gateways:
                        - device: '192.168.0.21'
                        optimistic: false
                        persistence: true
                        retain: true
                        version: 2.0,

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                          I just checked the wiring again and tested it with a voltage shifter I used for a grove RGB LCD and I got the same results

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                            @qkzk said in ๐Ÿ’ฌ Building a Raspberry Pi Gateway:

                            --my-controller-ip-address=192.168.0.50

                            I think you can ignore that parameter. Did you try making a USB gateway or ethernet gateway with an arduino? Why the voltage shifter? Did you add a capacitor on the 3.3v supply of the nrf24? You could also try with the 2.2.0 version from development branch that has some fixes

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                              I tried the voltage shifter since I read : (*): If you are using the nrf24 PA/LNA version you need to use a 5V->3.3V regulator because the Raspberry Pi 3.3V can't supply enough power.
                              Since I don't know the version...

                              I had no success with an arduino USB gateway but I'll try again.

                              I thought the controller-ip-adress=192.168.0.50 parameter was usefull otherwise the gateway would have to look guess where the controler is. I may have got everything wrong about who is initiating the dialogue. From what I read in home automation logs it's the controller who is looking for the gateway...

                              I'll try the 2.2.0 version.

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                                I managed to connect everything but not the way I would have prefered.
                                Controler : Home assistant on debian server
                                Gateway : arduino Uno connected to debian server trough usb serial
                                Sensor : binary sensor (reed switch) on arduino mini.

                                I'm still trying to figure what's wrong with what I posted earlier.

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                                  WOW ! It works :) thanks @gohan :)
                                  I removed the voltage shifter, added an 1ยตF capacitor and downloaded developpement libraries.
                                  Also, I cleaned the configuration parameters : ./configure --my-transport=nrf24 --my-gateway=ethernet
                                  It finally works as expected (sensor, gw on rpi3, controler on debian server) and I can ditch the uno (well, I'll find him another use).
                                  Thanks again for the wonderfull work, it's been fun :)

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                                    Voltage regulator is strongly suggested when you are going to have the gw sending out messages and also a bigger capacitor will help

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                                      I'm trying to understand the need for a separate Gateway if the Ras Pi is the host of the controller. Is it possible to use OpenHab on the Pi AND have the RF transceiver connected to that same Pi and skip the ethernet adapter w/ Arduinos? Or, if you have to use ethernet, could you use localhost as the IP? Or is there a technical reason why that wouldn't work (or would work, but in a totally different way)? Thank you.

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                                        Did you read the article?

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                                        • A Andy Pethan

                                          I'm trying to understand the need for a separate Gateway if the Ras Pi is the host of the controller. Is it possible to use OpenHab on the Pi AND have the RF transceiver connected to that same Pi and skip the ethernet adapter w/ Arduinos? Or, if you have to use ethernet, could you use localhost as the IP? Or is there a technical reason why that wouldn't work (or would work, but in a totally different way)? Thank you.

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                                          @Andy-Pethan there is no need, where You read that ? I have a raspi with openhab and mqtt gw on single board. works very well.

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