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💬 nrf52832 PIR

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    waspie
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    its the start of a nrf52832-based motion sensor similar to neverdie's Multi-Sensor: Temp/Humidity/PIR/ Leak/Magnet/Light/Accel seen here:
    https://www.openhardware.io/view/510/Multi-Sensor-TempHumidityPIR-LeakMagnetLightAccel

    The nrf51822 is a bit finicky. I made it slightly bigger to accommodate a cr2450 and use a nrf52832 which is allegedly more reliable for low power sensors. I have a PIR hat, too, that i need to upload. I made my version adjustable. Neverdie's version works, but, the pir triggers quite a lot at the minimum reset time which means its triggering often in a busy room which uses a lot more battery.

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      I'll be updating this with pictures of actual boards soon, including my PIR "hat"

      I've been running several of them for about two months now on a single CR2450 (~620mah) and they're still showing just slightly over 3 volts. These are detecting motion many times per hour during the day.

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        Some pictures of an assembled unit with 3d printed case

        4_1560857780234_20190618_073230.jpg 3_1560857780234_20190618_073218.jpg 2_1560857780233_20190618_073211.jpg 1_1560857780233_20190618_073200.jpg 0_1560857780233_20190618_073136.jpg

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        • W waspie

          Some pictures of an assembled unit with 3d printed case

          4_1560857780234_20190618_073230.jpg 3_1560857780234_20190618_073218.jpg 2_1560857780233_20190618_073211.jpg 1_1560857780233_20190618_073200.jpg 0_1560857780233_20190618_073136.jpg

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          berkseo
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          @waspie
          Hello, great project! Can you provide a link to the datasheet of the pir sensor?

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            Some pictures of an assembled unit with 3d printed case

            4_1560857780234_20190618_073230.jpg 3_1560857780234_20190618_073218.jpg 2_1560857780233_20190618_073211.jpg 1_1560857780233_20190618_073200.jpg 0_1560857780233_20190618_073136.jpg

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            Nca78
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            @waspie nice, with this case color you should get black fresnel lenses, it would look great :)

            @berkseo I guess it's an AM612, you will easily get datasheet on google

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            • Nca78N Nca78

              @waspie nice, with this case color you should get black fresnel lenses, it would look great :)

              @berkseo I guess it's an AM612, you will easily get datasheet on google

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              @nca78 said in 💬 nrf52832 PIR:

              AM612

              I thought something more original than AM612. It has a supply voltage of 2.4-3.2V, if I'm not mistaken.

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                @nca78 said in 💬 nrf52832 PIR:

                AM612

                I thought something more original than AM612. It has a supply voltage of 2.4-3.2V, if I'm not mistaken.

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                @berkseo said in 💬 nrf52832 PIR:

                @nca78 said in 💬 nrf52832 PIR:

                AM612

                I thought something more original than AM612. It has a supply voltage of 2.4-3.2V, if I'm not mistaken.

                No it's 2.7-3.3, which is not great for button cell as a fair share of the capacity will not be available.

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                  Yeah, it's an AM612. I think when I originally put this together I didn't realize the low cutoff voltage :|

                  We'll see how long it lasts...
                  I guess options then are to add a buck converter or strap AAAs on the back instead

                  Black fresnel lens? what?? I might have to find some of those

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                    Yeah, it's an AM612. I think when I originally put this together I didn't realize the low cutoff voltage :|

                    We'll see how long it lasts...
                    I guess options then are to add a buck converter or strap AAAs on the back instead

                    Black fresnel lens? what?? I might have to find some of those

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                    Nca78
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                    @waspie said in 💬 nrf52832 PIR:

                    Black fresnel lens? what?? I might have to find some of those

                    They are on Aliexpress. Not even expensive.

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                      Yeah, it's an AM612. I think when I originally put this together I didn't realize the low cutoff voltage :|

                      We'll see how long it lasts...
                      I guess options then are to add a buck converter or strap AAAs on the back instead

                      Black fresnel lens? what?? I might have to find some of those

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                      @waspie said in 💬 nrf52832 PIR:

                      Yeah, it's an AM612. I think when I originally put this together I didn't realize the low cutoff voltage
                      We'll see how long it lasts...
                      I guess options then are to add a buck converter or strap AAAs on the back instead
                      Black fresnel lens? what?? I might have to find some of those

                      ...search on aliexpress

                      0_1561033280108_IMG_20190620_125151.jpg
                      0_1561033305236_IMG_20190620_131651.jpg

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                        waspie
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                        #13

                        thanks guys, i just ordered a few :)
                        @berkseo i was searching for buck/boost converters and found TPS61098 which when i searched for turned up on one of you designs :)

                        what i can't figure out just yet is how to wire it up for our application. can you shed any light on that, please?

                        well, i think i may have sorted it.... GND and MODE to ground. VSUB is 3.3 (or 3v if i do the 61098) out (not being used in this application?).

                        SW inductor, vin of course, and vmain is the output for the mcu i think

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                          @waspie said in 💬 nrf52832 PIR:

                          Yeah, it's an AM612. I think when I originally put this together I didn't realize the low cutoff voltage
                          We'll see how long it lasts...
                          I guess options then are to add a buck converter or strap AAAs on the back instead
                          Black fresnel lens? what?? I might have to find some of those

                          ...search on aliexpress

                          0_1561033280108_IMG_20190620_125151.jpg
                          0_1561033305236_IMG_20190620_131651.jpg

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                          @berkseo said in 💬 nrf52832 PIR:

                          0_1561033280108_IMG_20190620_125151.jpg
                          0_1561033305236_IMG_20190620_131651.jpg

                          Are these for the S16 smd sensors ? If yes, can you please give me a link of where you ordered them ? I couldn't get any, LCSC sold me the sensors but refused to order the lenses for me, and Senba can send them "for free" but with a very high express shipping fee.

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                            @berkseo said in 💬 nrf52832 PIR:

                            0_1561033280108_IMG_20190620_125151.jpg
                            0_1561033305236_IMG_20190620_131651.jpg

                            Are these for the S16 smd sensors ? If yes, can you please give me a link of where you ordered them ? I couldn't get any, LCSC sold me the sensors but refused to order the lenses for me, and Senba can send them "for free" but with a very high express shipping fee.

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                            @nca78 said in 💬 nrf52832 PIR:

                            Are these for the S16 smd sensors ? If yes, can you please give me a link of where you ordered them ? I couldn't get any, LCSC sold me the sensors but refused to order the lenses for me, and Senba can send them "for free" but with a very high express shipping fee.

                            Only through Alibaba (not aliexpress) at Senba (((

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                              thanks guys, i just ordered a few :)
                              @berkseo i was searching for buck/boost converters and found TPS61098 which when i searched for turned up on one of you designs :)

                              what i can't figure out just yet is how to wire it up for our application. can you shed any light on that, please?

                              well, i think i may have sorted it.... GND and MODE to ground. VSUB is 3.3 (or 3v if i do the 61098) out (not being used in this application?).

                              SW inductor, vin of course, and vmain is the output for the mcu i think

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                              berkseo
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                              @waspie
                              TPS610981DSE, see table in datasheet, paragraph 5
                              I use the schema from the datasheet, paragraph 9.2.2

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                                I would like to find an available pir sensor powered by 1.8 V :(

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                                  I would like to find an available pir sensor powered by 1.8 V :(

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                                  @berkseo said in 💬 nrf52832 PIR:

                                  I would like to find an available pir sensor powered by 1.8 V

                                  yeah, that'd be nice

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                                    5 months and voltage still holding decently high
                                    /77/28/1/0/38 2.964

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