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converting 12v to 5v

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  • tbowmoT tbowmo

    @Moshe-Livne

    what is the voltage at the arduino input, when you apply the external power supply?

    Could you try and measure the voltage across the switch terminals in the door bell:

    1. when button isn't pressed
    2. when the button is pressed

    You need to simulate these two input voltages on the input of the circuit..

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    @tbowmo this is not connected to the doorbell as I hate working in the air... so, its connected to my laptop for the 5v and debug and to a variable voltage power supply that i set to 6.3v (it shows 8ma are "used")

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      @Moshe-Livne

      Yes, but you need to simulate the doorbell, so take some measurements on the doorbell, and copy those to your circuit. That is, if the signal on the doorbell is 0V when the button is pressed, then you should be able to short the input to your signal to 0V.

      Also, again, when applying 6.3V via your external powersupply, what is the voltage on the input pin on the arduino?

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        @Moshe-Livne

        Yes, but you need to simulate the doorbell, so take some measurements on the doorbell, and copy those to your circuit. That is, if the signal on the doorbell is 0V when the button is pressed, then you should be able to short the input to your signal to 0V.

        Also, again, when applying 6.3V via your external powersupply, what is the voltage on the input pin on the arduino?

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        @tbowmo i get 3.30v when power is off 4.7v when power is on. i think i used the wrong resistor... i am colour blind.... checking...

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          @Moshe-Livne

          Yes, but you need to simulate the doorbell, so take some measurements on the doorbell, and copy those to your circuit. That is, if the signal on the doorbell is 0V when the button is pressed, then you should be able to short the input to your signal to 0V.

          Also, again, when applying 6.3V via your external powersupply, what is the voltage on the input pin on the arduino?

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          @tbowmo no, its 67k so should be fine

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            @Moshe-Livne

            What if you short circuit the input to GND, what voltage is there on the arduino pin then?

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            • tbowmoT tbowmo

              @Moshe-Livne

              What if you short circuit the input to GND, what voltage is there on the arduino pin then?

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              @tbowmo When I connect the outside leg of the resistor to gnd i get 0 (both when the power supply is on or off) on the arduino pin

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                @Moshe-Livne

                I think you are good to go, and try this on the actual doorbell :)

                This assumes that when you press the button to activate the doorbell, it shorts the input pin to GND.. otherwise it's ~ 6V

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                  @Moshe-Livne

                  I think you are good to go, and try this on the actual doorbell :)

                  This assumes that when you press the button to activate the doorbell, it shorts the input pin to GND.. otherwise it's ~ 6V

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                  @tbowmo I'll give it another try - it didn't work before. anyway getting near midnight here so I better get some sleep. will try it again tomorrow. Thank you for your infinite patience...
                  Just a question, why not use a transistor to "sense" the closing of the circuit? is the voltage too high?

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                    you still need a couple of resistors and a transistor.. Here we have 2 diodes, and a resistor..

                    But it could also be done with a transistor yes..

                    / Thomas

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                    • tbowmoT tbowmo

                      you still need a couple of resistors and a transistor.. Here we have 2 diodes, and a resistor..

                      But it could also be done with a transistor yes..

                      / Thomas

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                      @tbowmo nope, still no go. strangely, when i disconnect the arduino from the computer (so it is not powered), it creates a short after a few seconds and the bell starts ringing continuously.

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