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    Samuel235
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    #6

    I'm very interested in doing something along these lines in the near future. I may be jumping back in here if i do, then we could develop something together that may bring others into the world of MySensors.

    MySensors 2.1.1
    Controller - OpenHAB (Virtual Machine)
    Gateway - Arduino Mega MQTT Gateway W5100

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      barduino
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      #7

      Hi Folks

      I got a question for the community.

      There is no Hydroponics dedicated sensor id in MySensors Lib and probably the same with the controllers out there.

      What would be better:

      • Have a V_CUSTOM sensor with multiple messages inside?
      • Have multiple standard sensors with single type messages inside?

      So for now what I need to report and manage is:

      • Is pump Running (V_STATUS)
      • Pump mode Off, Normal, Schedule, Daylight (V_SCENE)?
      • Minutes run/stop cycle (V_LEVEL)?
      • Start/End time for timer schedule (V_LEVEL)?
      • Light level for Daylight schedule (V_LEVEL)?
      • Pump Switch (V_STATUS)?

      So far I'm using...

      MyMessage msgPump(MY_PUMP_ID, V_STATUS);
      MyMessage msgLight(MY_PUMP_ID, V_LEVEL);
      MyMessage msgTime(MY_PUMP_ID,V_VAR1);
      

      upload-b0574f70-2359-4849-8f32-a3c6dae29b6c

      Thanks

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        barduino
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        #8

        Hi folks,

        Quick update on my progress.

        I was wondering how other controllers could handle this situation.

        If anyone has some input I would appreciate the feedback.

        Here is how I split the nodes and messages.

        upload-9787f916-e061-497e-8fa6-f2138fc0ab58
        upload-3ae87651-8ac8-4d2f-b170-32844c86e61c
        upload-3d0617aa-9af5-4153-a21c-c3995deb6b7e

        Had to combine V_LEVEL with other messages such as V_VOLUME in order to have 2 similar messages on the same sensor.

        I wonder if "normal"controllers just treat one message one sensor?

        Cheers

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          Samuel235
          Hardware Contributor
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          I'm not sure how your have your 'home page' configured with this data but i personally would love to have 1 single panel for this on the home page of the home automation controller/display showing the vitals (temp, pump on, light on, etc) then have it as a grouped page so you click onto it and it then displays all of this data like you have posted above as a separate control page for fine tuning.

          I know this is how i would have it set up in my OpenHAB system however, I have never used Vera before so I'm not sure if you can have/configure group pages like this. Either way, I love the look of this and like i mentioned before, i will be looking to do something along these lines in 2016 hopefully. Just waiting on the price of EC Probes to come down to a reasonable price and availability.

          Awesome project dude, keep up the good work!

          MySensors 2.1.1
          Controller - OpenHAB (Virtual Machine)
          Gateway - Arduino Mega MQTT Gateway W5100

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          • S Samuel235

            I'm not sure how your have your 'home page' configured with this data but i personally would love to have 1 single panel for this on the home page of the home automation controller/display showing the vitals (temp, pump on, light on, etc) then have it as a grouped page so you click onto it and it then displays all of this data like you have posted above as a separate control page for fine tuning.

            I know this is how i would have it set up in my OpenHAB system however, I have never used Vera before so I'm not sure if you can have/configure group pages like this. Either way, I love the look of this and like i mentioned before, i will be looking to do something along these lines in 2016 hopefully. Just waiting on the price of EC Probes to come down to a reasonable price and availability.

            Awesome project dude, keep up the good work!

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            barduino
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            #10

            Hi @samuel235

            I guess i've tried to re-invent the wheel.

            What you see is a controller developed by me. Each "card"represents a sensor with messages inside, as long as they are of different type. This seems to be a design flaw, I've made it too flexible and UI wise is a nightmare.
            They are grouped by nodes.

            The image I've posted is from a phone for factor. It looks like this on anormal screen:
            upload-15dbb14c-e1cd-4640-85a6-fc0ef67f9236

            After this experiment, one sensor one message seems to be the way to go.

            I'm also starting to experiment with openHab

            Cheers

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              Hi @samuel235

              I guess i've tried to re-invent the wheel.

              What you see is a controller developed by me. Each "card"represents a sensor with messages inside, as long as they are of different type. This seems to be a design flaw, I've made it too flexible and UI wise is a nightmare.
              They are grouped by nodes.

              The image I've posted is from a phone for factor. It looks like this on anormal screen:
              upload-15dbb14c-e1cd-4640-85a6-fc0ef67f9236

              After this experiment, one sensor one message seems to be the way to go.

              I'm also starting to experiment with openHab

              Cheers

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              Samuel235
              Hardware Contributor
              wrote on last edited by
              #11

              @barduino Is this connected to the same controller as the rest of your automation system? Or do you run a separate controller (vera) specifically for your hydroponic setup?

              MySensors 2.1.1
              Controller - OpenHAB (Virtual Machine)
              Gateway - Arduino Mega MQTT Gateway W5100

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                barduino
                wrote on last edited by barduino
                #12

                Hi Folks,

                Another update on this project

                I've finally finished with the software. Added a DHT22 for air temperature and humidity and also a Dallas for the water temperature.

                Assembling the hardware was a bit more challenging then anticipated, but with no PCB, i've decided to use a proto shield and maintain support/flexibility for both UNO and MEGA boards. Soon after I've realized the code does not fit a UNO (too much debug eventually)

                Also created a simple case to enclose it all.

                0_1454265251361_IMG_0384.JPG

                0_1454265262066_IMG_0385.JPG

                0_1454265268911_IMG_0386.JPG

                The Column it self

                0_1454265463100_IMG_0390.JPG

                0_1454265475716_IMG_0392.JPG

                If anyone would likr to take a look at the code, feed back is much appreciated!

                Hydro9.zip

                Finally the dashboard looks like this

                0_1454265720134_upload-dbcd7b52-42f2-44ca-9290-b00e74d38e00

                Cheers

                EDIT: Forgot to add the startup log

                Starting sensor (RNNNA-, 1.6.0-beta)
                Radio init successful.
                Initializing DHT... Done!
                Dallas Temperature IC Control Library Demo
                Locating devices...Found 1 devices.
                Parasite power is: OFF
                Device 0 Address: 2817611D070000C3
                Device 0 Resolution: 9
                RTC module activated
                
                The DS1302 is write protected. This normal.
                
                RTC Sync TieStatus: 2 timeSet 2 Ok!
                send: 7-7-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=1,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,st=ok:
                read: 0-0-7 s=255,c=3,t=1,pt=0,l=10,sg=0:1454110229
                Time value received: 1454110229
                Pump Time:2016/01/29 23:30:28 
                send: 7-7-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=15,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,st=ok:0
                send: 7-7-0-0 s=255,c=0,t=17,pt=0,l=10,sg=0,st=ok:1.6.0-beta
                send: 7-7-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=6,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,st=ok:0
                read: 0-0-7 s=255,c=3,t=6,pt=0,l=1,sg=0:M
                Starting presentation
                send: 7-7-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=11,pt=0,l=6,sg=0,st=ok:Hydro9
                send: 7-7-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=12,pt=0,l=4,sg=0,st=ok:v0.1
                send: 7-7-0-0 s=1,c=0,t=3,pt=0,l=11,sg=0,st=ok:Pump Switch
                send: 7-7-0-0 s=2,c=0,t=23,pt=0,l=10,sg=0,st=ok:Pump Cycle
                send: 7-7-0-0 s=3,c=0,t=25,pt=0,l=9,sg=0,st=ok:Pump Mode
                send: 7-7-0-0 s=4,c=0,t=23,pt=0,l=14,sg=0,st=ok:Pump Scheduler
                send: 7-7-0-0 s=5,c=0,t=23,pt=0,l=13,sg=0,st=ok:Pump Daylight
                send: 7-7-0-0 s=6,c=0,t=6,pt=0,l=10,sg=0,st=ok:Air Sensor
                send: 7-7-0-0 s=7,c=0,t=6,pt=0,l=12,sg=0,st=ok:Water Sensor
                send: 7-7-0-0 s=10,c=0,t=23,pt=0,l=9,sg=0,st=ok:Pump Time
                End presentation
                Init complete, id=7, parent=0, distance=1
                **************** PUMP STATUS ***********************
                Pump Mode is:  Daylight
                Pump Cycle:    On:15 Off:15
                Pump Schedule: Start:07:33 Stop:17:30
                Pump Daylight: Start:70 Current:59
                Pump Time:     2016/01/29 23:30:34 
                ****************************************************
                ************* ENVIRONMENT STATUS *******************
                Air temperature:10.60 Air humidity:37.90
                Water temperature:10.00
                ****************************************************
                send: 7-7-0-0 s=1,c=1,t=2,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,st=ok:0
                send: 7-7-0-0 s=3,c=1,t=19,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,st=ok:3
                send: 7-7-0-0 s=4,c=1,t=24,pt=0,l=5,sg=0,st=ok:07:33
                send: 7-7-0-0 s=4,c=1,t=25,pt=0,l=5,sg=0,st=ok:17:30
                send: 7-7-0-0 s=5,c=1,t=37,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,st=ok:70
                send: 7-7-0-0 s=5,c=1,t=35,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,st=ok:59
                send: 7-7-0-0 s=2,c=1,t=37,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,st=ok:15
                send: 7-7-0-0 s=2,c=1,t=35,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,st=ok:15
                send: 7-7-0-0 s=10,c=1,t=24,pt=0,l=20,sg=0,st=ok:2016/01/29 23:30:34 
                send: 7-7-0-0 s=6,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,st=ok:10.6
                send: 7-7-0-0 s=6,c=1,t=1,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,st=ok:37.9
                send: 7-7-0-0 s=7,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,st=ok:10.0
                2016/01/29 23:30:34 Light level: 59
                
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                • barduinoB barduino

                  Hi Folks,

                  Another update on this project

                  I've finally finished with the software. Added a DHT22 for air temperature and humidity and also a Dallas for the water temperature.

                  Assembling the hardware was a bit more challenging then anticipated, but with no PCB, i've decided to use a proto shield and maintain support/flexibility for both UNO and MEGA boards. Soon after I've realized the code does not fit a UNO (too much debug eventually)

                  Also created a simple case to enclose it all.

                  0_1454265251361_IMG_0384.JPG

                  0_1454265262066_IMG_0385.JPG

                  0_1454265268911_IMG_0386.JPG

                  The Column it self

                  0_1454265463100_IMG_0390.JPG

                  0_1454265475716_IMG_0392.JPG

                  If anyone would likr to take a look at the code, feed back is much appreciated!

                  Hydro9.zip

                  Finally the dashboard looks like this

                  0_1454265720134_upload-dbcd7b52-42f2-44ca-9290-b00e74d38e00

                  Cheers

                  EDIT: Forgot to add the startup log

                  Starting sensor (RNNNA-, 1.6.0-beta)
                  Radio init successful.
                  Initializing DHT... Done!
                  Dallas Temperature IC Control Library Demo
                  Locating devices...Found 1 devices.
                  Parasite power is: OFF
                  Device 0 Address: 2817611D070000C3
                  Device 0 Resolution: 9
                  RTC module activated
                  
                  The DS1302 is write protected. This normal.
                  
                  RTC Sync TieStatus: 2 timeSet 2 Ok!
                  send: 7-7-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=1,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,st=ok:
                  read: 0-0-7 s=255,c=3,t=1,pt=0,l=10,sg=0:1454110229
                  Time value received: 1454110229
                  Pump Time:2016/01/29 23:30:28 
                  send: 7-7-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=15,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,st=ok:0
                  send: 7-7-0-0 s=255,c=0,t=17,pt=0,l=10,sg=0,st=ok:1.6.0-beta
                  send: 7-7-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=6,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,st=ok:0
                  read: 0-0-7 s=255,c=3,t=6,pt=0,l=1,sg=0:M
                  Starting presentation
                  send: 7-7-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=11,pt=0,l=6,sg=0,st=ok:Hydro9
                  send: 7-7-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=12,pt=0,l=4,sg=0,st=ok:v0.1
                  send: 7-7-0-0 s=1,c=0,t=3,pt=0,l=11,sg=0,st=ok:Pump Switch
                  send: 7-7-0-0 s=2,c=0,t=23,pt=0,l=10,sg=0,st=ok:Pump Cycle
                  send: 7-7-0-0 s=3,c=0,t=25,pt=0,l=9,sg=0,st=ok:Pump Mode
                  send: 7-7-0-0 s=4,c=0,t=23,pt=0,l=14,sg=0,st=ok:Pump Scheduler
                  send: 7-7-0-0 s=5,c=0,t=23,pt=0,l=13,sg=0,st=ok:Pump Daylight
                  send: 7-7-0-0 s=6,c=0,t=6,pt=0,l=10,sg=0,st=ok:Air Sensor
                  send: 7-7-0-0 s=7,c=0,t=6,pt=0,l=12,sg=0,st=ok:Water Sensor
                  send: 7-7-0-0 s=10,c=0,t=23,pt=0,l=9,sg=0,st=ok:Pump Time
                  End presentation
                  Init complete, id=7, parent=0, distance=1
                  **************** PUMP STATUS ***********************
                  Pump Mode is:  Daylight
                  Pump Cycle:    On:15 Off:15
                  Pump Schedule: Start:07:33 Stop:17:30
                  Pump Daylight: Start:70 Current:59
                  Pump Time:     2016/01/29 23:30:34 
                  ****************************************************
                  ************* ENVIRONMENT STATUS *******************
                  Air temperature:10.60 Air humidity:37.90
                  Water temperature:10.00
                  ****************************************************
                  send: 7-7-0-0 s=1,c=1,t=2,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,st=ok:0
                  send: 7-7-0-0 s=3,c=1,t=19,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,st=ok:3
                  send: 7-7-0-0 s=4,c=1,t=24,pt=0,l=5,sg=0,st=ok:07:33
                  send: 7-7-0-0 s=4,c=1,t=25,pt=0,l=5,sg=0,st=ok:17:30
                  send: 7-7-0-0 s=5,c=1,t=37,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,st=ok:70
                  send: 7-7-0-0 s=5,c=1,t=35,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,st=ok:59
                  send: 7-7-0-0 s=2,c=1,t=37,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,st=ok:15
                  send: 7-7-0-0 s=2,c=1,t=35,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,st=ok:15
                  send: 7-7-0-0 s=10,c=1,t=24,pt=0,l=20,sg=0,st=ok:2016/01/29 23:30:34 
                  send: 7-7-0-0 s=6,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,st=ok:10.6
                  send: 7-7-0-0 s=6,c=1,t=1,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,st=ok:37.9
                  send: 7-7-0-0 s=7,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,st=ok:10.0
                  2016/01/29 23:30:34 Light level: 59
                  
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                  #13

                  @barduino - Fantastic! I absolutely love this project of yours dude. Keep it evolving over time, make some upgrades and mods and you will be on to even more of a winner. The first thing i would advise as Revision/Version 2 would be to get that all put onto PCB's, get the footprint of the electronics small as you can, have it so the power comes into a connector on the side of the box rather than a cable running in. Then, I'd get those electronics inside of the column itself. either in the base or the top would be the obvious place to go for. Please don't stop here, its functional now, but make it a 'whole package' and you will be loved by thousands! Well, if you can class me as thousands that is.

                  Seriously good work though. I'm now expecting you to show us a video of everything working and integrated ;)

                  MySensors 2.1.1
                  Controller - OpenHAB (Virtual Machine)
                  Gateway - Arduino Mega MQTT Gateway W5100

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                    @barduino - Fantastic! I absolutely love this project of yours dude. Keep it evolving over time, make some upgrades and mods and you will be on to even more of a winner. The first thing i would advise as Revision/Version 2 would be to get that all put onto PCB's, get the footprint of the electronics small as you can, have it so the power comes into a connector on the side of the box rather than a cable running in. Then, I'd get those electronics inside of the column itself. either in the base or the top would be the obvious place to go for. Please don't stop here, its functional now, but make it a 'whole package' and you will be loved by thousands! Well, if you can class me as thousands that is.

                    Seriously good work though. I'm now expecting you to show us a video of everything working and integrated ;)

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                    @samuel235

                    Thanks for your enthusiastic support!!! :smiley:

                    The reason for the big power supply is that I intend to have 2 solenoid valves to control the water flow, one to send water to the column the other to recirculate the water in the bucket (needed when adding nutrients or adjusting the PH). Those run on 12v and can consume some amps.

                    The next step would be to add a water level sensor, I'll fry the pump if the water level drops to low.

                    The most difficult parts to get are the PH sensor and the TPM/TDS sensor, not only expensive but most of then are not designed to be permanently submerged.

                    In the long run I'm also planning for 3 peristaltic pumps to send nutrients, acidic solution and base solution to adjust PH and nutrients level. These often run on 12v.

                    The idea of getting the electronics on the column is quite interesting. It would have to be on top since the rest of the column is not water tight. I would need to find some clever way to deal with the cables.

                    Any way, I've just finished adding the plants. Not the ideal time to plant anything (its winter here) but the frost is gone and they say lettuce goes well with cold temperatures.
                    This is what it looks like week 0. We'll see how it goes.

                    0_1454274356245_IMG_0393.JPG

                    Cheers

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                      @samuel235

                      Thanks for your enthusiastic support!!! :smiley:

                      The reason for the big power supply is that I intend to have 2 solenoid valves to control the water flow, one to send water to the column the other to recirculate the water in the bucket (needed when adding nutrients or adjusting the PH). Those run on 12v and can consume some amps.

                      The next step would be to add a water level sensor, I'll fry the pump if the water level drops to low.

                      The most difficult parts to get are the PH sensor and the TPM/TDS sensor, not only expensive but most of then are not designed to be permanently submerged.

                      In the long run I'm also planning for 3 peristaltic pumps to send nutrients, acidic solution and base solution to adjust PH and nutrients level. These often run on 12v.

                      The idea of getting the electronics on the column is quite interesting. It would have to be on top since the rest of the column is not water tight. I would need to find some clever way to deal with the cables.

                      Any way, I've just finished adding the plants. Not the ideal time to plant anything (its winter here) but the frost is gone and they say lettuce goes well with cold temperatures.
                      This is what it looks like week 0. We'll see how it goes.

                      0_1454274356245_IMG_0393.JPG

                      Cheers

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                      #15

                      @barduino - No need to explain anything about hydroponics to me, I sent myself insane with researching it in the hope to do something like this. But like you also mentioned, the cost of the PH and nutrient sensors was just too much for me right now, i can't justify that in my current situation, which is why i'm passionate and enjoying your project :)

                      MySensors 2.1.1
                      Controller - OpenHAB (Virtual Machine)
                      Gateway - Arduino Mega MQTT Gateway W5100

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                        @samuel235

                        Thanks for your enthusiastic support!!! :smiley:

                        The reason for the big power supply is that I intend to have 2 solenoid valves to control the water flow, one to send water to the column the other to recirculate the water in the bucket (needed when adding nutrients or adjusting the PH). Those run on 12v and can consume some amps.

                        The next step would be to add a water level sensor, I'll fry the pump if the water level drops to low.

                        The most difficult parts to get are the PH sensor and the TPM/TDS sensor, not only expensive but most of then are not designed to be permanently submerged.

                        In the long run I'm also planning for 3 peristaltic pumps to send nutrients, acidic solution and base solution to adjust PH and nutrients level. These often run on 12v.

                        The idea of getting the electronics on the column is quite interesting. It would have to be on top since the rest of the column is not water tight. I would need to find some clever way to deal with the cables.

                        Any way, I've just finished adding the plants. Not the ideal time to plant anything (its winter here) but the frost is gone and they say lettuce goes well with cold temperatures.
                        This is what it looks like week 0. We'll see how it goes.

                        0_1454274356245_IMG_0393.JPG

                        Cheers

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                        Dwalt
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                        #16

                        @barduino I stumbled across this project a year or so ago while researching something similar to your project. There are some good resources there. I never got around to following up on it but your project is tempting me...mixing water with electronics, what's not to love.

                        Veralite UI5 :: IBoard Ethernet GW :: MyS 1.5

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