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  • NetRapN NetRap

    Why not using this sensor?
    Giesomat

    It didn't cost much and work like an angel.

    And if the frequency is to high, or you need a other logic level, you can use this one:
    frequency divider and level shifter

    Don't have any troubles with this.
    I only count the pulses. That all.

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    mfalkvidd
    Mod
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    #179

    @NetRap You have already stated the same 3 times earlier in this thread. It looks like spam/advertising. What's your point?

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    • cattooC cattoo

      @mfalkvidd
      Its a Arduino Nano (clone)

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      Mod
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      #180

      @cattoo VIN on the Nano is used when powering with higher than 5V.
      The Nano is not suitable for battery power. I recommend that you use a Pro Mini instead. See https://www.mysensors.org/build/battery

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        #181

        I don't want to spam.
        The point is, that the conducting based sensors are poison.
        The electrolytic processes destroy the sensor and giving ions into the
        earth !!!

        Look at this site:
        All Technologies
        There are compared all possible technology's.
        Giesomat wins.

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        • mfalkviddM mfalkvidd

          @cattoo VIN on the Nano is used when powering with higher than 5V.
          The Nano is not suitable for battery power. I recommend that you use a Pro Mini instead. See https://www.mysensors.org/build/battery

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          #182

          @mfalkvidd said:
          Ah okey, well then ill use them with proper power and buy new pro mini´s instead. Tack :)

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            TON RIJNAARD
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            #183

            Hello,

            Is there a sketch for mysensors 2.0
            I get error on the Mysensor gw;

            Ton

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              Just to give a feedback on power consumption: I have switched back to mysensors V 1.5.4. This was roughly one month ago. I take meadurements every two hours. Battery voltage hasn't changed a bit since then. So my guess is, that - for whatever reason - mysensors V 2.0 seems to produce a more power hungry code.
              Whatever ...
              I am happy now and will stick with V 1.5.4
              I am

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              • J joshmosh

                Just to give a feedback on power consumption: I have switched back to mysensors V 1.5.4. This was roughly one month ago. I take meadurements every two hours. Battery voltage hasn't changed a bit since then. So my guess is, that - for whatever reason - mysensors V 2.0 seems to produce a more power hungry code.
                Whatever ...
                I am happy now and will stick with V 1.5.4
                I am

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                Nicklas Starkel
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                #185

                @joshmosh I use MySensors V2 and took a sample every 30 seconds over a few days simulating almost 28000 transmits.
                I've come down to have roughly 0.08V decrease for all these transmits which is very close to what @mfalkvidd has.

                @TON-RIJNAARD , here is my sketch! I think I use signing as well, so if you don't use it just remove :)

                // Enable debug prints to serial monitor
                #define MY_DEBUG
                //The node ID
                #define MY_NODE_ID 7 //250 is test 
                // Enable and select radio type attached and also set parent ID
                #define MY_RADIO_NRF24
                #define MY_PARENT_NODE_ID 0
                #define MY_PARENT_NODE_IS_STATIC
                //Signing, make sure the arduino is prepped for signing before!
                #define MY_SIGNING_SOFT
                #define MY_SIGNING_SOFT_RANDOMSEED_PIN 7
                #define MY_SIGNING_REQUEST_SIGNATURES
                #include <SPI.h>
                #include <MySensors.h>
                
                #define round(x) ((x)>=0?(long)((x)+0.5):(long)((x)-0.5))
                #define N_ELEMENTS(array) (sizeof(array)/sizeof((array)[0]))
                
                #define CHILD_ID_MOISTURE 0
                #define CHILD_ID_BATTERY 1
                #define SLEEP_TIME 1800000 // Sleep time between reads (in milliseconds)
                #define STABILIZATION_TIME 1000 // Let the sensor stabilize before reading
                #define BATTERY_FULL 3000 // 3,000 millivolts for 2xAA
                #define BATTERY_ZERO 2800 // 1,900 millivolts (1.9V, limit for nrf24l01 without step-up. 2.8V limit for Atmega328 without BOD disabled))
                const int SENSOR_ANALOG_PINS[] = {A0, A1}; // Sensor is connected to these two pins. Avoid A3 if using ATSHA204. A6 and A7 cannot be used because they don't have pullups.
                
                MyMessage msg(CHILD_ID_MOISTURE, V_HUM);
                MyMessage voltage_msg(CHILD_ID_BATTERY, V_VOLTAGE);
                long oldvoltage = 0;
                byte direction = 0;
                int oldMoistureLevel = -1;
                
                void setup()
                {
                  sendSketchInfo("Plant moisture w bat", "1.5");
                
                  present(CHILD_ID_MOISTURE, S_HUM);
                  delay(250);
                  present(CHILD_ID_BATTERY, S_CUSTOM);
                  for (int i = 0; i < N_ELEMENTS(SENSOR_ANALOG_PINS); i++) {
                    pinMode(SENSOR_ANALOG_PINS[i], OUTPUT);
                    digitalWrite(SENSOR_ANALOG_PINS[i], LOW);
                  }
                }
                
                void loop()
                {
                  pinMode(SENSOR_ANALOG_PINS[direction], INPUT_PULLUP); // Power on the sensor
                  analogRead(SENSOR_ANALOG_PINS[direction]);// Read once to let the ADC capacitor start charging
                  sleep(STABILIZATION_TIME);
                  int moistureLevel = (1023 - analogRead(SENSOR_ANALOG_PINS[direction]));
                
                  // Turn off the sensor to conserve battery and minimize corrosion
                  pinMode(SENSOR_ANALOG_PINS[direction], OUTPUT);
                  digitalWrite(SENSOR_ANALOG_PINS[direction], LOW);
                
                  direction = (direction + 1) % 2; // Make direction alternate between 0 and 1 to reverse polarity which reduces corrosion
                  // Always send moisture information so the controller sees that the node is alive
                
                  // Send rolling average of 2 samples to get rid of the "ripple" produced by different resistance in the internal pull-up resistors
                  // See http://forum.mysensors.org/topic/2147/office-plant-monitoring/55 for more information
                  if (oldMoistureLevel == -1) { // First reading, save value
                    oldMoistureLevel = moistureLevel;
                  }
                  send(msg.set((moistureLevel + oldMoistureLevel +  0.5) / 2 / 10.23, 1));
                  oldMoistureLevel = moistureLevel;
                  long voltage = readVcc();
                  if (oldvoltage != voltage) { // Only send battery information if voltage has changed, to conserve battery.
                    send(voltage_msg.set(voltage / 1000.0, 3)); // redVcc returns millivolts. Set wants volts and how many decimals (3 in our case)
                    sendBatteryLevel(round((voltage - BATTERY_ZERO) * 100.0 / (BATTERY_FULL - BATTERY_ZERO)));
                    oldvoltage = voltage;
                  }
                  sleep(SLEEP_TIME);
                }
                
                long readVcc() {
                  // From http://provideyourown.com/2012/secret-arduino-voltmeter-measure-battery-voltage/
                  // Read 1.1V reference against AVcc
                  // set the reference to Vcc and the measurement to the internal 1.1V reference
                #if defined(__AVR_ATmega32U4__) || defined(__AVR_ATmega1280__) || defined(__AVR_ATmega2560__)
                  ADMUX = _BV(REFS0) | _BV(MUX4) | _BV(MUX3) | _BV(MUX2) | _BV(MUX1);
                #elif defined (__AVR_ATtiny24__) || defined(__AVR_ATtiny44__) || defined(__AVR_ATtiny84__)
                  ADMUX = _BV(MUX5) | _BV(MUX0);
                #elif defined (__AVR_ATtiny25__) || defined(__AVR_ATtiny45__) || defined(__AVR_ATtiny85__)
                  ADMUX = _BV(MUX3) | _BV(MUX2);
                #else
                  ADMUX = _BV(REFS0) | _BV(MUX3) | _BV(MUX2) | _BV(MUX1);
                #endif
                
                  delay(2); // Wait for Vref to settle
                  ADCSRA |= _BV(ADSC); // Start conversion
                  while (bit_is_set(ADCSRA, ADSC)); // measuring
                
                  uint8_t low  = ADCL; // must read ADCL first - it then locks ADCH
                  uint8_t high = ADCH; // unlocks both
                
                  long result = (high << 8) | low;
                
                  result = 1125300L / result; // Calculate Vcc (in mV); 1125300 = 1.1*1023*1000
                  return result; // Vcc in millivolts
                }```
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                • N Nicklas Starkel

                  @joshmosh I use MySensors V2 and took a sample every 30 seconds over a few days simulating almost 28000 transmits.
                  I've come down to have roughly 0.08V decrease for all these transmits which is very close to what @mfalkvidd has.

                  @TON-RIJNAARD , here is my sketch! I think I use signing as well, so if you don't use it just remove :)

                  // Enable debug prints to serial monitor
                  #define MY_DEBUG
                  //The node ID
                  #define MY_NODE_ID 7 //250 is test 
                  // Enable and select radio type attached and also set parent ID
                  #define MY_RADIO_NRF24
                  #define MY_PARENT_NODE_ID 0
                  #define MY_PARENT_NODE_IS_STATIC
                  //Signing, make sure the arduino is prepped for signing before!
                  #define MY_SIGNING_SOFT
                  #define MY_SIGNING_SOFT_RANDOMSEED_PIN 7
                  #define MY_SIGNING_REQUEST_SIGNATURES
                  #include <SPI.h>
                  #include <MySensors.h>
                  
                  #define round(x) ((x)>=0?(long)((x)+0.5):(long)((x)-0.5))
                  #define N_ELEMENTS(array) (sizeof(array)/sizeof((array)[0]))
                  
                  #define CHILD_ID_MOISTURE 0
                  #define CHILD_ID_BATTERY 1
                  #define SLEEP_TIME 1800000 // Sleep time between reads (in milliseconds)
                  #define STABILIZATION_TIME 1000 // Let the sensor stabilize before reading
                  #define BATTERY_FULL 3000 // 3,000 millivolts for 2xAA
                  #define BATTERY_ZERO 2800 // 1,900 millivolts (1.9V, limit for nrf24l01 without step-up. 2.8V limit for Atmega328 without BOD disabled))
                  const int SENSOR_ANALOG_PINS[] = {A0, A1}; // Sensor is connected to these two pins. Avoid A3 if using ATSHA204. A6 and A7 cannot be used because they don't have pullups.
                  
                  MyMessage msg(CHILD_ID_MOISTURE, V_HUM);
                  MyMessage voltage_msg(CHILD_ID_BATTERY, V_VOLTAGE);
                  long oldvoltage = 0;
                  byte direction = 0;
                  int oldMoistureLevel = -1;
                  
                  void setup()
                  {
                    sendSketchInfo("Plant moisture w bat", "1.5");
                  
                    present(CHILD_ID_MOISTURE, S_HUM);
                    delay(250);
                    present(CHILD_ID_BATTERY, S_CUSTOM);
                    for (int i = 0; i < N_ELEMENTS(SENSOR_ANALOG_PINS); i++) {
                      pinMode(SENSOR_ANALOG_PINS[i], OUTPUT);
                      digitalWrite(SENSOR_ANALOG_PINS[i], LOW);
                    }
                  }
                  
                  void loop()
                  {
                    pinMode(SENSOR_ANALOG_PINS[direction], INPUT_PULLUP); // Power on the sensor
                    analogRead(SENSOR_ANALOG_PINS[direction]);// Read once to let the ADC capacitor start charging
                    sleep(STABILIZATION_TIME);
                    int moistureLevel = (1023 - analogRead(SENSOR_ANALOG_PINS[direction]));
                  
                    // Turn off the sensor to conserve battery and minimize corrosion
                    pinMode(SENSOR_ANALOG_PINS[direction], OUTPUT);
                    digitalWrite(SENSOR_ANALOG_PINS[direction], LOW);
                  
                    direction = (direction + 1) % 2; // Make direction alternate between 0 and 1 to reverse polarity which reduces corrosion
                    // Always send moisture information so the controller sees that the node is alive
                  
                    // Send rolling average of 2 samples to get rid of the "ripple" produced by different resistance in the internal pull-up resistors
                    // See http://forum.mysensors.org/topic/2147/office-plant-monitoring/55 for more information
                    if (oldMoistureLevel == -1) { // First reading, save value
                      oldMoistureLevel = moistureLevel;
                    }
                    send(msg.set((moistureLevel + oldMoistureLevel +  0.5) / 2 / 10.23, 1));
                    oldMoistureLevel = moistureLevel;
                    long voltage = readVcc();
                    if (oldvoltage != voltage) { // Only send battery information if voltage has changed, to conserve battery.
                      send(voltage_msg.set(voltage / 1000.0, 3)); // redVcc returns millivolts. Set wants volts and how many decimals (3 in our case)
                      sendBatteryLevel(round((voltage - BATTERY_ZERO) * 100.0 / (BATTERY_FULL - BATTERY_ZERO)));
                      oldvoltage = voltage;
                    }
                    sleep(SLEEP_TIME);
                  }
                  
                  long readVcc() {
                    // From http://provideyourown.com/2012/secret-arduino-voltmeter-measure-battery-voltage/
                    // Read 1.1V reference against AVcc
                    // set the reference to Vcc and the measurement to the internal 1.1V reference
                  #if defined(__AVR_ATmega32U4__) || defined(__AVR_ATmega1280__) || defined(__AVR_ATmega2560__)
                    ADMUX = _BV(REFS0) | _BV(MUX4) | _BV(MUX3) | _BV(MUX2) | _BV(MUX1);
                  #elif defined (__AVR_ATtiny24__) || defined(__AVR_ATtiny44__) || defined(__AVR_ATtiny84__)
                    ADMUX = _BV(MUX5) | _BV(MUX0);
                  #elif defined (__AVR_ATtiny25__) || defined(__AVR_ATtiny45__) || defined(__AVR_ATtiny85__)
                    ADMUX = _BV(MUX3) | _BV(MUX2);
                  #else
                    ADMUX = _BV(REFS0) | _BV(MUX3) | _BV(MUX2) | _BV(MUX1);
                  #endif
                  
                    delay(2); // Wait for Vref to settle
                    ADCSRA |= _BV(ADSC); // Start conversion
                    while (bit_is_set(ADCSRA, ADSC)); // measuring
                  
                    uint8_t low  = ADCL; // must read ADCL first - it then locks ADCH
                    uint8_t high = ADCH; // unlocks both
                  
                    long result = (high << 8) | low;
                  
                    result = 1125300L / result; // Calculate Vcc (in mV); 1125300 = 1.1*1023*1000
                    return result; // Vcc in millivolts
                  }```
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                  @Nicklas-Starkel
                  Strange ...
                  But since I am not missing / using any of the advanced features offered by V 2.0, I don't see a problem (at least for now) to stick with V 1.5.4
                  In any case it is amazing what you can do with low power battery poweroperated sensors.

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                    #187

                    Hi,
                    in last MySensors lib version 2.1.0, I see a new sensor type : S_MOISTURE
                    It's more logicial to use this new type instead of S_HUM ?

                    and so use V_LEVEL instead of V_HUM ?

                    Thanks for respons

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                      meanmrgreen
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                      #188

                      If I use more than one sensor for this. It still will only monitor one plant right? Or can I say monitor 3-4 plants with one node?

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                        #189

                        I have an arduino pro mini, connected to 2-3 flowers using A0+A1, A2+A3, A4+A5.. unfortunately, I'm seeing some weird effects between the plants.. if I water one plant, another can change a bunch at the same time (or not, depending on stuff).. Also if I disconnect one flower, another flower can get way different values too..

                        I haven't figured out yet if I'm getting a capacitor effect in the flowers, sending back power through the output signals or what's happening..
                        0_1483967302526_flower.png

                        Here I added water to the "green" flower, then the values for the gray one dropped. The gray one was physically untouched while watering.

                        Code is based on mfalkvidd, with all Ax being set to output=0 and then input+pullup for one while reading..

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                        • S Stric

                          I have an arduino pro mini, connected to 2-3 flowers using A0+A1, A2+A3, A4+A5.. unfortunately, I'm seeing some weird effects between the plants.. if I water one plant, another can change a bunch at the same time (or not, depending on stuff).. Also if I disconnect one flower, another flower can get way different values too..

                          I haven't figured out yet if I'm getting a capacitor effect in the flowers, sending back power through the output signals or what's happening..
                          0_1483967302526_flower.png

                          Here I added water to the "green" flower, then the values for the gray one dropped. The gray one was physically untouched while watering.

                          Code is based on mfalkvidd, with all Ax being set to output=0 and then input+pullup for one while reading..

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                          mfalkvidd
                          Mod
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #190

                          @Stric interesting (and strange) effect. I wonder what causes it. Maybe the wait time beween turning on the pin and doing the measurement is too short so the level doesn't settle completely?

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                          • TetnobicT Tetnobic

                            Hi,
                            in last MySensors lib version 2.1.0, I see a new sensor type : S_MOISTURE
                            It's more logicial to use this new type instead of S_HUM ?

                            and so use V_LEVEL instead of V_HUM ?

                            Thanks for respons

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                            meanmrgreen
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #191

                            @Tetnobic i tried this and Ended up with a soil sensor that didn't display % but something called cb?

                            But yeah it works.

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                              meanmrgreen
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #192

                              I made a node with 1 fork and it works great!

                              Any tips on how i can use more than one fork to monitor say 3-4 plants?

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                              • mfalkviddM mfalkvidd

                                @Stric interesting (and strange) effect. I wonder what causes it. Maybe the wait time beween turning on the pin and doing the measurement is too short so the level doesn't settle completely?

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                                Stric
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #193

                                @mfalkvidd I'm going to do some tests with changing the sampling time and sleep time, but I'm not so hopeful since the effect is seen hours/days after an "unrelated" change.. I got stuck yesterday playing with ESPEasy, but I'll get back to debugging this..

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                                • meanmrgreenM meanmrgreen

                                  I made a node with 1 fork and it works great!

                                  Any tips on how i can use more than one fork to monitor say 3-4 plants?

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                                  Stric
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #194

                                  @meanmrgreen See my post a few up, I'm seeing some weird effects when connecting to more than one plant..

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                                  • S Stric

                                    @meanmrgreen See my post a few up, I'm seeing some weird effects when connecting to more than one plant..

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                                    meanmrgreen
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #195

                                    @Stric

                                    Does reverse polarity really help with corrosion then? Maybe it has something to do with that.

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                                      meanmrgreen
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #196

                                      Small problem with my plant sensor. Used only the fork and the reverse polarity.

                                      But the sensor is reporting around 80-70% all the time, alltho the plant is pretty dry.

                                      When i remove the sensor from pot it shows 0% ?

                                      Can you calibrate the fork somehow?

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                                      • meanmrgreenM meanmrgreen

                                        Small problem with my plant sensor. Used only the fork and the reverse polarity.

                                        But the sensor is reporting around 80-70% all the time, alltho the plant is pretty dry.

                                        When i remove the sensor from pot it shows 0% ?

                                        Can you calibrate the fork somehow?

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                                        mfalkvidd
                                        Mod
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #197

                                        @meanmrgreen I calibrate by putting my finger in the soil. When the soil is too dry I note the current value and set a notification to trigger next time it reaches that level.

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                                        • mfalkviddM mfalkvidd

                                          @meanmrgreen I calibrate by putting my finger in the soil. When the soil is too dry I note the current value and set a notification to trigger next time it reaches that level.

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                                          meanmrgreen
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #198

                                          @mfalkvidd

                                          Ok :)
                                          But Its normal just to lower by a few percent in a few days time?

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