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  • dbemowskD Offline
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    wrote on last edited by dbemowsk
    #76

    Here are a couple pics of my first prototype mounting layout of the sensors. I may still use some elbows and get the anemometer and wind direction vane moved a bit higher than the other sensors. My fear is that with all of the sensors sitting on the same plane, wind passing by the other sensor housings may affect the readings of these. The main one I am concerned with is the rain sensor. This is a minor obstacle that can be fixed with two PVC elbows.
    0_1499028515008_upload-d23be907-c68e-4994-863c-4f73824bb0ba0_1499028531031_upload-1b3c57ac-913d-4ddd-aa07-2552f9f2e78e

    Another thing, I was thinking about the batteries that I want to use with this and I noticed that I have had the 4 - AA battery pack on for a few days now and they are still running. If I put together a pack of 2 18650 batteries, I should be good. Those batteries run at 3.7 volts, so 2 of them should give my 7.4 volts which should be no problem on the RAW input of the pro mini. My only worry with these would be overcharging them. Being that these are lithium ion batteries, they can be dangerous if overcharged. Just need to find a decent solar charging circuit for them. I am open for suggestions if anyone has any.

    I hope within the next week I can have all of the OpenSCAD files cleaned up and posted on thingiverse. I wanted to post some of them a while back, but ended up making a few minor tweaks.

    Enjoy...

    Vera Plus running UI7 with MySensors, Sonoffs and 1-Wire devices
    Visit my website for more Bits, Bytes and Ramblings from me: http://dan.bemowski.info/

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      So today as I was working on the rig to change the placement of the anemometer/wind direction assembly, I ended up dropping the assembly and broke one of the cups off. As I was getting ready to make a new wind cup assembly, I decided to make a small change in the design. The change that I made has the arms holding the cups lower to better prevent wind interference from the housing. Here is the new design.
      0_1499058501983_upload-14e57d76-754e-42f9-93c1-2674252c6a5b

      I will post more pics tomorrow of the change in placement of the anemometer assembly with the new cups.

      Vera Plus running UI7 with MySensors, Sonoffs and 1-Wire devices
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      • gohanG Offline
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        #78

        You could power the pro mini directly to vcc using just one lithium cell and remove the voltage regulator and led to save power.

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        • gohanG gohan

          You could power the pro mini directly to vcc using just one lithium cell and remove the voltage regulator and led to save power.

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          #79

          @gohan Right now the only Pro Minis that I have left in my parts bin are 5 volt ones. Besides, I already have the newbie board fitted with the 3.3v regulator and power caps. Another compelling reason for using a 5v mini is that it is 16MHz instead of 8MHz for the 3.3v ones. I think that I am going to want the extra speed for the number of sensors I have connected to a single pro mini and the data that I need to collect. I need to use interrupts for the pulse counting of the anemometer, so the faster I can do those things, the better off I'll be.

          Vera Plus running UI7 with MySensors, Sonoffs and 1-Wire devices
          Visit my website for more Bits, Bytes and Ramblings from me: http://dan.bemowski.info/

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          • dbemowskD dbemowsk

            @gohan Right now the only Pro Minis that I have left in my parts bin are 5 volt ones. Besides, I already have the newbie board fitted with the 3.3v regulator and power caps. Another compelling reason for using a 5v mini is that it is 16MHz instead of 8MHz for the 3.3v ones. I think that I am going to want the extra speed for the number of sensors I have connected to a single pro mini and the data that I need to collect. I need to use interrupts for the pulse counting of the anemometer, so the faster I can do those things, the better off I'll be.

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            sundberg84
            Hardware Contributor
            wrote on last edited by sundberg84
            #80

            @dbemowsk - are your goal to sleep this sensor or whats your thoughts running it with battery? It might be a hard nut to crack 5v 16mhz and batteries?

            Love your thread btw! Keep up the good work :)

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            • sundberg84S sundberg84

              @dbemowsk - are your goal to sleep this sensor or whats your thoughts running it with battery? It might be a hard nut to crack 5v 16mhz and batteries?

              Love your thread btw! Keep up the good work :)

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              wrote on last edited by
              #81

              @sundberg84 I don't plan to sleep the sensor at all. Putting the sensor to sleep would cause problems with the anemometer and the interrupt I need to use for that. The main reason for needing it to run on battery is that I plan to mount this up in the air on the top edge of my house. This is why I want to also put a solar panel on it. During the day the solar panel can run the sensor and charge the battery, and at night the battery can take over.

              Vera Plus running UI7 with MySensors, Sonoffs and 1-Wire devices
              Visit my website for more Bits, Bytes and Ramblings from me: http://dan.bemowski.info/

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                #82

                Are you sure you don't want to sleep sensor? If it is a matter of interrupts for anemometer, you could use a dinamic sleep time, like if you don't have any wind motion within 2 seconds put the node to sleep and wake it up on pin change

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                • gohanG gohan

                  Are you sure you don't want to sleep sensor? If it is a matter of interrupts for anemometer, you could use a dinamic sleep time, like if you don't have any wind motion within 2 seconds put the node to sleep and wake it up on pin change

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                  #83

                  @gohan I have never worked with a dynamic sleep timer. Do you have am example of how this is used?

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                    Not really, maybe just put the sleep in an IF statement and check if the time from last impulse from the anemometer is over than 2 sec then sleep, otherwise it just continues loop

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                    • gohanG gohan

                      Not really, maybe just put the sleep in an IF statement and check if the time from last impulse from the anemometer is over than 2 sec then sleep, otherwise it just continues loop

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                      @gohan So am I correct in assuming that an interrupt will wake a sleep timer? As long as I can catch the pulses from the anemometer, I don't see a reason I couldn't use a sleep timer. Just thinking about it, I may also want to use an interrupt for the rain gauge sensor for similar reasons. Not sure about the wind direction sensor.

                      Vera Plus running UI7 with MySensors, Sonoffs and 1-Wire devices
                      Visit my website for more Bits, Bytes and Ramblings from me: http://dan.bemowski.info/

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                        wrote on last edited by
                        #86

                        Here are a few more pictures of the new layout with the new anemometer cups.
                        0_1499087266284_upload-2b958d54-e3bb-4ae1-9ba4-815bc9ac5f88
                        0_1499087278053_upload-dec6c2b6-ee03-4891-9f89-161246ed722f
                        0_1499087288381_upload-164b9af0-fe6c-4ebf-ab25-e675e10c41d7

                        Vera Plus running UI7 with MySensors, Sonoffs and 1-Wire devices
                        Visit my website for more Bits, Bytes and Ramblings from me: http://dan.bemowski.info/

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                        • dbemowskD dbemowsk

                          @gohan So am I correct in assuming that an interrupt will wake a sleep timer? As long as I can catch the pulses from the anemometer, I don't see a reason I couldn't use a sleep timer. Just thinking about it, I may also want to use an interrupt for the rain gauge sensor for similar reasons. Not sure about the wind direction sensor.

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                          gohan
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                          #87

                          @dbemowsk basically you would need to attach sleep to both interrupts on pin 2 and 3 and use them for anemometer and rain meter. For wind direction check it when it wakes up

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                            #88

                            So I am trying to figure out code for the wind speed sensor and I see there is a V_GUST value. I am wondering what people use for that value.

                            Vera Plus running UI7 with MySensors, Sonoffs and 1-Wire devices
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                              So now that I have the wind direction sensor working, I need to try to migrate the code into my weather_station sketch. One option that I am working on implementing is a calibration button for North. So after I get things set up and mounted, I will use a compass to point the wind vane towards North. I will then press the calibration button which will save the current direction position to EEPROM if it is different than the one stored. The following code will then be used to get the true direction that the wind vane is pointing.

                              value = 360 * myAS5047.sensor_read() / 16383; //Read the value from the direction sensor as a value from 0 to 360
                              north_offset = EEPROM.read(address);  //Read the offset value from EEPROM
                              
                              dir = ((value - north_offset) < 0) ? 360 - abs (value - north_offset)  : value - north_offset; //Get the true direction
                              /*
                              insert code to read the button and if pressed, check the current value stored in EEPROM against the value read from the sensor
                              and write the new value if it is different.  If the sensor value matches the current stored value, then ignore the write to
                              save on EEPROM writes.
                              */
                              

                              So with this idea, I will need to know a few things. First, I am assuming that MySensors does EEPROM writes and reads. Is there a particular addreess pointer variable that I should use when writing my value to EEPROM? I will also need to know how I can get the address pointer to that data the same each time the arduino is reset, especially if MySensors does writes and reads.

                              As always, any input is appreciated.

                              Vera Plus running UI7 with MySensors, Sonoffs and 1-Wire devices
                              Visit my website for more Bits, Bytes and Ramblings from me: http://dan.bemowski.info/

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                              • dbemowskD dbemowsk

                                So now that I have the wind direction sensor working, I need to try to migrate the code into my weather_station sketch. One option that I am working on implementing is a calibration button for North. So after I get things set up and mounted, I will use a compass to point the wind vane towards North. I will then press the calibration button which will save the current direction position to EEPROM if it is different than the one stored. The following code will then be used to get the true direction that the wind vane is pointing.

                                value = 360 * myAS5047.sensor_read() / 16383; //Read the value from the direction sensor as a value from 0 to 360
                                north_offset = EEPROM.read(address);  //Read the offset value from EEPROM
                                
                                dir = ((value - north_offset) < 0) ? 360 - abs (value - north_offset)  : value - north_offset; //Get the true direction
                                /*
                                insert code to read the button and if pressed, check the current value stored in EEPROM against the value read from the sensor
                                and write the new value if it is different.  If the sensor value matches the current stored value, then ignore the write to
                                save on EEPROM writes.
                                */
                                

                                So with this idea, I will need to know a few things. First, I am assuming that MySensors does EEPROM writes and reads. Is there a particular addreess pointer variable that I should use when writing my value to EEPROM? I will also need to know how I can get the address pointer to that data the same each time the arduino is reset, especially if MySensors does writes and reads.

                                As always, any input is appreciated.

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                                Nca78
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                                Hello, @dbemowsk
                                You should use the built in method from the MySensors library to do that :
                                https://www.mysensors.org/download/sensor_api_20#saving-state

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                                • Nca78N Nca78

                                  Hello, @dbemowsk
                                  You should use the built in method from the MySensors library to do that :
                                  https://www.mysensors.org/download/sensor_api_20#saving-state

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                                  #91

                                  @Nca78 Thanks, exactly what I wanted to know.

                                  Vera Plus running UI7 with MySensors, Sonoffs and 1-Wire devices
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                                    Hello, @dbemowsk
                                    You should use the built in method from the MySensors library to do that :
                                    https://www.mysensors.org/download/sensor_api_20#saving-state

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                                    @Nca78 So my values are from 0 to 360, looking at the link you posted, the value that you save to an address is uint8_t which is equivalent to a byte (0 to 255). Is there a way to store a word value (uint16_t), or do I need to break the value into two bytes and store those into two positions?

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                                    • dbemowskD dbemowsk

                                      @Nca78 So my values are from 0 to 360, looking at the link you posted, the value that you save to an address is uint8_t which is equivalent to a byte (0 to 255). Is there a way to store a word value (uint16_t), or do I need to break the value into two bytes and store those into two positions?

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                                      @dbemowsk said in MySensors weather station:

                                      @Nca78 So my values are from 0 to 360, looking at the link you posted, the value that you save to an address is uint8_t which is equivalent to a byte (0 to 255). Is there a way to store a word value (uint16_t), or do I need to break the value into two bytes and store those into two positions?

                                      Yes it can only store bytes, but it's not a big deal to make a method to read/write values on 2 bytes.
                                      Else you can just keep a precision of 2° and divide by 2 to get a 0=>180 value ;)

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                                        Actually thinking about this, I should be using 0 to 359. 0 to 360 is actually 361 positions, not 360.

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                                          Precision of 2° I believe it's enough as many weather stations provide just the 8 general directions

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