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Secondary ESP8266 gateway

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  • gohanG Offline
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    #2

    every esp8266 gateway is pretty much stand alone, the controller will manage data to and from the 2 networks. Have you thought to put a repeater in between the beehive and the gateway you have? It is quite odd that you can't get the PA LNA to work, unless there are other problems we don't know.

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    • ThucarT Offline
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      I'm finding it odd as well that PA LNA also fails to connect from that distance. I only had these two - one on the gateway and the other now on the hive sensor. The rest are all regular pcb antenna versions. I've ordered 5 more PA LNA versions just to be sure it's not a faulty radio.

      That means another month of waiting for them to arrive though...

      Controller: Node-Red
      Gateway: SerialGateway & GSMMQTTGateway
      MySensors: 2.2.0

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      • gohanG Offline
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        Maybe you could make a repeater using the PA LNA radio on the side of the house facing the beehive and use a regular nrf24 on the beehive node and see if you get any improvement

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          That's worth a shot. Tricky to get power out there but definitely worth trying.

          Controller: Node-Red
          Gateway: SerialGateway & GSMMQTTGateway
          MySensors: 2.2.0

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            Guess we can mark this one down to iffy PA/LNA modules. After verifying that a repeater solves the problem, I replaced both, the gateway and beehive sensor radios out for regular nrf24l01's. At first I had a repeater as well in between the two, but after making sure the communication was there, I disconnected the repeater.

            And lo and behold - the communication still works fine. So now I modified the gateway radio by cutting the pcb antenna trace and soldering in a SMA connector. Now I have a high DBi wireless antenna attached to the gateway and no more reception issues.

            Controller: Node-Red
            Gateway: SerialGateway & GSMMQTTGateway
            MySensors: 2.2.0

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              #7

              Good you have solved. Can you post a picture of the PA LNA modules you were using?

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              • ThucarT Offline
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                #8

                I was using these

                I'll see if wrapping them in tin foil helps any.

                Controller: Node-Red
                Gateway: SerialGateway & GSMMQTTGateway
                MySensors: 2.2.0

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                  The tin foil wrap tip should definitely be mentioned on the radio page. That trick really works wonders. I used ventilation aluminum foil tape. The glue on it acts as insulation so no need to use food wrap. It's also thicker than regular food grade tin foil and it being a tape makes it super easy to use.

                  Controller: Node-Red
                  Gateway: SerialGateway & GSMMQTTGateway
                  MySensors: 2.2.0

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                    that is why we normally suggest the shielded ones as they are a bit more expensive but they work better without mods. :)

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                    • ThucarT Offline
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                      #11

                      Which shielded ones do you mean? I went and got all the radio gear from the MySensors Store page. Was looking for the best possible radios to use for the gateway and couple of my far-away sensors. The PA/LNA modules looked like the cream of the crop.

                      Controller: Node-Red
                      Gateway: SerialGateway & GSMMQTTGateway
                      MySensors: 2.2.0

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                        https://www.aliexpress.com/item/E01-ML01DP5-Ebyte-2-4GHz-20dBm-2100m-nRF24L01-SPI-Wireless-transceiver-module/32638720689.html

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