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How to read frequency and SWP output from watermark sensor

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    hard-shovel
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    Hi pierrot10

    Seeing your curcuit it makes sense now, I saw this schematic in the data sheet but did not really look at the details and skipped over the page.

    I see you do not have the shunt resistor in the ground supply connection on your schematic so are unable to measure the mV signal. So only the pulse signal is available.

    Q1. Do you have a pullup resistor on the pulse signal A1 or have internal pullups on the microcontroller enabled?

    Q2. Is there a reason that you switch the V+ into LMC555 but do not switch the Reset (P4) as well from PA15?

    Q3 Your code "" percent = duration*100/11000; ""
    That does not seem to make sense to me, as when i chart the numbers, it seems to me the most useful range according to the KPa numbers will not be very sensitive with your figures ranging from an intger of 9 down to 0.

    Also why multiply by a hundred only to divide again, simplify to

    percent = duration/110; 
    

    percent = duration/110;

    A Why measure once with LOW and with HIGH
    This was to get the correct frequency, As i did not know the mark-space ratio of the pulses was 50%, ie high and low the same duration.
    As frequency in Hz is the number of cycles in one second. If we take the time for the High Pulse and the Low pulse and use that to divide one second we get Hz.
    If they were not the same then the frequency calculation would be incorrect just taking one reading.

    0_1527688094276_square-waves-MS-ratio.png

    If 1:1 mark space ratio then measuring High or Low and mulitlying by two will give the freqency

    ie 50Hz, one cycle takes 20ms, measure high or low at 10ms, 2*10ms = 20ms
    frequency = 1/20ms

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      hard-shovel
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      more:

      if mark space ratio is 2:1 then need to measure both high and low

      ie 50hz high = 15ms, low = 5ms
      using only high readings 2x15ms = calculated value of 1/30ms = 33Hz
      using only low readings 2x5ms = calculated value of 1/10ms = 10Hz
      using both low & high 15ms + 5ms = calculated value of 1/20ms = 50Hz

      i would send the frequency value to the controller if possible as then you have raw data to process with no lose of resolution. Unless your controller can only handle 0-100 percent data.

      for example using info from data sheet.
      16384 Ohms approx 476Hz = 100 Kpa your calculation = 9
      12288 Ohms approx 612Hz = 75 Kps your calculation = 7
      8192 Ohms approx 874Hz = 55 Kpa your calculation = 5
      6144 ohms approx 1135Hz= 35 kpa your calculation = 4

      As i do not have a sensor to test it does seem that you may only be getting a good reading of dry to very dry with your scheme. Still that is only a guess as i really have no idea what 100Kpa really means to a plant.

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        hard-shovel
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        One more question
        What is the purpose of the J6 connector, as i should think that connecting any cable or meter will effect the capacitance and change the output frequency.

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          Dear Hard-shovel.

          Realy a great thank for your reply.It's too late now to answer of all of your obersvation (it's 1.30 am at my place), but I will take care of this tomrrow.

          Just to answer for this

          What is the purpose of the J6 connector, as i should think that connecting any cable or meter will effect the capacitance and change the output frequency.
          

          I build the circuit myself and I was not sure about the Film capacitor C15_1. I juts add J6 in case I make a mistake about C15_1. In that case, I can add a different capacitor on J6. But it should remind open and remove it later unless C15_1 (SMD) does not match. I have a doubt about C15_1, but not about the no-SMD capacitor that I can place on J6 holes. ;)

          About Q3, yes of course
          About Q2. Yes I thought to connect to PA15 instead of 3.3V. I though there is no impact if I keep RESET permanentely to 3.3, but I can have it to PA15, when the DIO of my processor is HIGH to power the SMX circuit.
          About Q1: I didnot foresee a pull up resistor on A1 and Ido not know if my microcontroller has one (Adafruit Feather MO adalogger), but I will check it tomorrow.

          I will better read your additonnal helpfully next comments

          Great, thank a lot for your suggestion and comments
          Cheers
          Thank

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            hard-shovel
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            Hi pierrot10
            It is mentioned in the SMX instructions and on the ti data sheet it clearly mentions the discharge pin being open collector. I like to use external pullups normally as it gives more control.
            check if you have the internal pullup set.

            The Adafruit Feather MO adalogger looks like a useful board with on-board charger ect

            pinMode(pinRead INPUT_PULLUP)
            

            I was going to try the circuit on a two pronged eBay sensor, but i cannot find any of the LMC555 or other cmos variants in my hoard of parts.

            Best of Luck with the project.

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              @hard-shovel said in How to read frequency output from watermark sensor:

              That does not seem to make sense to me, as when i chart the numbers, it seems to me the most useful range according to the KPa numbers will not be very sensitive with your figures ranging from an intger of 9 down to 0.

              I am sorry but I was busy with another problem that now I fixed.

              First of all. The Analog (A1) has a pull-up resistance.
              Secondely, you asked me why I do not use the kPa unit instead of percent.

              The reason is I do not know how. In fact I know but I can not get a correct value. I followed your recommandation and I use pulseIN HIGH and LOW

              HighInput = pulseIn(input_pin,HIGH);
              LowInput  = pulseIn(input_pin,LOW);
              

              I tested it while the sensor is in dry, dry soil and it return me 48Hz. I have not add water into the soil, as I need to keep it dry for now. But I believe my code work fine to get Hz

              /*
                  * Second soluion more precise
                  */
                  int highInput, lowInput;             // Store high and low time of wave in microseconds
                  float totalInput;                     // Temp store of total time of duration for one cycle of high and low pulse
                  float frequency;                      // calculated freqency   1/total time of one cycle.
                  float swp, wrm;
                  float Tsoil=24; //temp
                  highInput = pulseIn(pinRead,HIGH);
                  lowInput  = pulseIn(pinRead,LOW);
                  totalInput = highInput + lowInput;
                  
                  frequency = 1000000 / totalInput;
                  percent = map(frequency,48,13233,0,100);
                 
                  
                  if (highInput >0 && lowInput>0)
                  {
                    Si.sprint(F("Frequency2 at "),2); Si.sprint(pinRead,2); Si.sprint(F(": "),2); Si.sprint(frequency,2); Si.sprint(F("Hz "),2);
                    Si.sprint(F("("),2); Si.sprint(percent,2); Si.sprintln(F("%)"),2);
                  }
                  else
                  {
                    Si.sprint(F("frequency: "),2);
                    Si.sprintln(F("Error"),2);
                  }
                  delay(500);
              

              Great, thank a lot!!!!!!!!!!

              But I would like to get the value in kPa and when micro-controller is not connected to WM, my formul return me -332.58kPa while it should be -199kpa for fully dried and 0kpa for fully wet.I got the same result when I connect my micro-controller to my watermark sensor in a realy realy dry soil. (I have a large box with crop soil that I leave it drying)
              The doc says:

              The resistance ranges from 550 ohms in saturated soil, 0.0 kPa, to
              27950 ohms in bone dry soil, 199 kPa
              

              I wonder if I calculate correctly. The doc give a forumle to get the swp in kpa

              kPa = (3.213 * kohms + 4.093) / {1 - 0.009733 * kohms - 0.01205 * Celsius)
              

              and I need to know the value of 'kohms' which is the resistance of my watermark sensor when dry or wet.

              I guess my mistake is here because, I actually a Watermark resistance of 10000000 ohm.

              If you know the watermark sensor and still has the patience to help, I would like to understand the difference between the Table 1 and table 2 on page 6 and 7

              As I wrote, I have box where I add crop soil and leave it dry until is really really dry. I measure the soil moisture with a watermark, and it return me 48Hz, which sound good as the soil is really really dry. Then the watermark resistance should be 10000000 accoring to table1, but I am confused because on page 9

              The resistance ranges from 550 ohms in saturated soil, 0.0 kPa, to
              27950 ohms in bone dry soil, 199 kPa. That is at 75 degrees Fahrenheit, 24 degrees Celsius
              

              Then how can I get the right watermark resistance value from frequency and then use it with the following formul to get from 0 to -199kpa?

              swp = (3.213 * (wrm/1000) + 4.093) / (1 - 0.009733 * (wrm/1000) - 0.01205 * Tsoil);
              

              this return me -332.58kPa

              Then How can I calculate wrm (Resistance of watermark)?

              Thank a lot

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                hard-shovel
                wrote on last edited by
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                Hi
                Well i think that 48Hz is good for a very dry sensor or disconnected unit.
                If you do not wish to get the sensor wet, you could try connecting various resistors to the input to simulate the sensor and vary the frequency signal.

                I tested the following program using a signal generator to input the frequency signal to test the conversions as the SMX datasheet,

                There are the three main functions:
                Input Pin to Frequency
                Frequency to Resistance (using a lookup table as per page 6)
                Resistance to kPa (using a lookup table as per page 7 with Fahrenheit temperature compensation)
                Alternative Resistance to kPA (using the calculation on page 9 with Celsius temperature compensation)

                I have not included any temperature conversions from Fahrenheit to Celsius so each function uses the temperature as per the data sheet.

                My code is just quick and simple just to get started.

                // test program to test Watermark Sensor using the SMX interface using frequency mode.
                // see https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/9384/how-to-read-frequency-output-from-watermark-sensor
                // see http://emesystems.com/pdfs/SMX.pdf for data sheet
                
                
                // global var
                int signal_input_pin = 4;  // Sensor pulse pin
                float TsoilF = 75;         // Soil temperature in  Fahrenheit
                float TsoilC = 24;         // Soil temperature in  Centrigrade
                
                long RESISTORarray[76] = {
                // Watermark Sensor SMX interface Hz to Resistance lookup table per SMX.pdf page 6. 
                48,  10000000,
                76,  262144,
                85,  196608,
                103, 131072,
                122, 98304,
                157, 65536,
                194, 49152,
                264, 32768,
                335, 24567,
                476, 16384,
                612, 12288,
                874, 8192,
                1135,  6144,
                1623,  4096,
                2071,  3072,
                2862,  2048,
                3557,  1536,
                4697,  1024,
                5596,  768,
                6932,  512,
                7878,  384,
                9104,  256,
                9882,  192,
                10802, 128,
                11312, 96,
                11893, 64,
                12200, 48,
                12526, 32,
                12708, 24,
                12871, 16,
                12962, 12,
                13047, 8,
                13092, 6,
                13139, 4,
                13162, 3,
                13186, 2,
                13209, 1,
                13233, 0,
                };
                
                long SWPkPAarray[18]{
                // Watermark Sensor SMX interface Resistance to SWP kPa lookup table per SMX.pdf page 7. 
                // this table is valid at temperature of 75F, 24C  
                 550,  0,
                1000,  9,
                1100,  10,
                2000,  15,
                6000,  35,
                9200,  55,
                12200, 75,
                15575, 100,
                28075, 200,
                };
                
                
                void setup() {
                    // initialize the serial communications:
                  Serial.begin(115200);
                  Serial.println("Watermark Fequency Display");
                  pinMode (INPUT, signal_input_pin);
                }
                
                
                void loop() {
                  // put your main code here, to run repeatedly:
                  float Signal_Freqency = freqencyMeasure(signal_input_pin);
                  Serial.print(" Frequency H+L; = ");
                  Serial.print(Signal_Freqency);
                  Serial.print("   ");
                  
                  float Signal_Resistance = resistanceCalc(Signal_Freqency);
                  Serial.print(" Resistance; = ");
                  Serial.print(Signal_Resistance);
                  Serial.print("   ");
                  
                  float Signal_kPa = kPaCalc(Signal_Resistance, TsoilF);     // input using Fahrenheit temperature
                  Serial.print(" kPA ; = ");
                  Serial.print(Signal_kPa);
                  Serial.print("   ");
                  
                  float Signal_kPa2 = kPaCalc2(Signal_Resistance, TsoilC);   // input using Celcius temperature
                  Serial.print(" kPA Version 2; = ");
                  Serial.print(Signal_kPa2);
                  Serial.print("   ");
                    
                  //float Signal_Freqency2 = freqencyMeasure2(signal_input_pin);
                  //Serial.print(" Frequency H*2; = ");
                  //Serial.println(Signal_Freqency2);
                  //Serial.print("   ");
                
                 
                  Serial.print(" Perentage; = ");
                  Serial.println(map(Signal_kPa, 0,200,0,100));
                  Serial.print("   ");
                  
                  delay(500);
                }
                
                //---------------------------------------------------------------
                long resistanceCalc(float frequencyInput){
                  // Convert from freqency to Resistance measurement
                  // From SMX.pdf datasheet, page 6
                  // 48 Hz    = 10,000,000 Ohms
                  // 76 Hz    =    262,144 Ohms
                  // 13233 Hz =          0 ohms 
                  // using lookup table held in the array  RESISTORarray   
                
                  //frequencyInput = constrain(frequencyInput,50, 13233);
                  float newVal;
                  if (frequencyInput <= RESISTORarray[0]) {     // Minimum value
                    newVal = RESISTORarray[0+1];
                  }
                  if (frequencyInput >= RESISTORarray[74]) {     // Maximum value
                    newVal = RESISTORarray[74+1];
                  }  
                  for (int i=0; i<74; i=i+2) {
                    if ((frequencyInput >= RESISTORarray[i]) && (frequencyInput <= RESISTORarray[i+2])) {
                      newVal = RESISTORarray[i+1] - ((RESISTORarray[i+1]-RESISTORarray[i+3]) * ((frequencyInput-RESISTORarray[i]) / (RESISTORarray[i+2]-RESISTORarray[i])));
                      break;
                    }
                  }
                  return newVal;
                }
                
                //---------------------------------------------------------------
                long kPaCalc(float ResistanceInput, float FTemperatureInput){
                  // Convert from Resistance to SWP kPa measurement
                  // From SMX.pdf datasheet, page 7
                  //   550 Ohms =  0 SWP kPa
                  //  6000 Ohms = 35 SWP kPa
                  // 28075 Ohms =200 SWP kPa
                  // using lookup table held in the array  SWPkPAarray   
                  // table valid for temperature of 75F, 24C
                  // for increase of 1°F increase resistance by 1%.
                  // ** this function accepts temperature in Fahrenheit units **
                  float newVal;
                
                  // Adjust compensate resistance for temperature.
                  // per page 8 of SMX.pdf 
                  float ResistanceCompensated = ResistanceInput;
                  
                    if (ResistanceCompensated <= SWPkPAarray[0]) {     // Minimum value
                    newVal = SWPkPAarray[0+1];
                  }
                  if (ResistanceCompensated >= SWPkPAarray[74]) {     // Maximum value
                    newVal = SWPkPAarray[16+1];
                  }  
                  //for (int i=0; i<SWPkPAarray.length-2; i=i+2) {
                  for (int i=0; i<16; i=i+2) {
                    if ((ResistanceCompensated >= SWPkPAarray[i]) && (ResistanceCompensated <= SWPkPAarray[i+2])) {
                      newVal = SWPkPAarray[i+1] - ((SWPkPAarray[i+1]-SWPkPAarray[i+3]) * ((ResistanceInput-SWPkPAarray[i]) / (SWPkPAarray[i+2]-SWPkPAarray[i])));
                      break;
                    }
                  }
                  return newVal;
                }
                
                
                //---------------------------------------------------------------
                long kPaCalc2(float ResistanceInput, float CTemperatureInput){
                  // Second Method of conversion
                  // Convert from Resistance to SWP kPa measurement
                  // From SMX.pdf datasheet, page 9
                  // kPa = (3.213 * kohms + 4.093) / {1 - 0.009733 * kohms - 0.01205 * Celsius)
                  // ** this function accepts temperature in Celsius units **
                  
                  ResistanceInput = ResistanceInput/1000;     // ohms to Kohms
                  float newVal = (3.213 * ResistanceInput + 4.093) / (1 - 0.009733 * ResistanceInput - 0.01205 * CTemperatureInput);
                  return newVal;
                }
                
                
                //---------------------------------------------------------------
                long freqencyMeasure(int input_pin) {
                  // if mark-space ratio is equal then only one measurement High time or low time and double it is required.
                  int HighInput;      // Store high time of wave in microseconds
                  int LowInput;       // store Low time of wave in microseconds
                  float TotalInput;   // Temp store of total time of duration for one cycle of high and low pulse
                  float frequency;    // calculated freqency   1/total time of one cycle.
                  HighInput = pulseIn(input_pin,HIGH);
                  LowInput  = pulseIn(input_pin,LOW);
                  TotalInput = HighInput + LowInput;
                  frequency = 1000000L / TotalInput;
                  /*
                  Serial.print(" HighInput; = ");
                  Serial.print(HighInput);
                  Serial.print("   ");
                  Serial.print(" Low Input; = ");
                  Serial.print(LowInput);
                  Serial.print("   ");
                  */
                  if (HighInput >0 && LowInput>0) return frequency;   // reading valid
                  return 0;
                 } 
                
                //---------------------------------------------------------------
                 long freqencyMeasure2(int input_pin) {
                  // if mark-space ratio is equal then only one measurement High time or low time and double it is required.
                  int HighInput;      // Store high time of wave in microseconds
                  int LowInput;       // store Low time of wave in microseconds
                  float TotalInput;   // Temp store of total time of duration for one cycle of high and low pulse
                  float frequency;    // calculated freqency   1/total time of one cycle.
                  HighInput = pulseIn(input_pin,HIGH);
                  //LowInput  = pulseIn(input_pin,LOW);
                  TotalInput = HighInput *2;
                  frequency = 1000000L / TotalInput;
                  if (HighInput >0) return frequency;   // reading valid
                  return 0;
                 } 
                

                I hope this helps.

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                  Hi
                  Well i think that 48Hz is good for a very dry sensor or disconnected unit.
                  If you do not wish to get the sensor wet, you could try connecting various resistors to the input to simulate the sensor and vary the frequency signal.

                  I tested the following program using a signal generator to input the frequency signal to test the conversions as the SMX datasheet,

                  There are the three main functions:
                  Input Pin to Frequency
                  Frequency to Resistance (using a lookup table as per page 6)
                  Resistance to kPa (using a lookup table as per page 7 with Fahrenheit temperature compensation)
                  Alternative Resistance to kPA (using the calculation on page 9 with Celsius temperature compensation)

                  I have not included any temperature conversions from Fahrenheit to Celsius so each function uses the temperature as per the data sheet.

                  My code is just quick and simple just to get started.

                  // test program to test Watermark Sensor using the SMX interface using frequency mode.
                  // see https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/9384/how-to-read-frequency-output-from-watermark-sensor
                  // see http://emesystems.com/pdfs/SMX.pdf for data sheet
                  
                  
                  // global var
                  int signal_input_pin = 4;  // Sensor pulse pin
                  float TsoilF = 75;         // Soil temperature in  Fahrenheit
                  float TsoilC = 24;         // Soil temperature in  Centrigrade
                  
                  long RESISTORarray[76] = {
                  // Watermark Sensor SMX interface Hz to Resistance lookup table per SMX.pdf page 6. 
                  48,  10000000,
                  76,  262144,
                  85,  196608,
                  103, 131072,
                  122, 98304,
                  157, 65536,
                  194, 49152,
                  264, 32768,
                  335, 24567,
                  476, 16384,
                  612, 12288,
                  874, 8192,
                  1135,  6144,
                  1623,  4096,
                  2071,  3072,
                  2862,  2048,
                  3557,  1536,
                  4697,  1024,
                  5596,  768,
                  6932,  512,
                  7878,  384,
                  9104,  256,
                  9882,  192,
                  10802, 128,
                  11312, 96,
                  11893, 64,
                  12200, 48,
                  12526, 32,
                  12708, 24,
                  12871, 16,
                  12962, 12,
                  13047, 8,
                  13092, 6,
                  13139, 4,
                  13162, 3,
                  13186, 2,
                  13209, 1,
                  13233, 0,
                  };
                  
                  long SWPkPAarray[18]{
                  // Watermark Sensor SMX interface Resistance to SWP kPa lookup table per SMX.pdf page 7. 
                  // this table is valid at temperature of 75F, 24C  
                   550,  0,
                  1000,  9,
                  1100,  10,
                  2000,  15,
                  6000,  35,
                  9200,  55,
                  12200, 75,
                  15575, 100,
                  28075, 200,
                  };
                  
                  
                  void setup() {
                      // initialize the serial communications:
                    Serial.begin(115200);
                    Serial.println("Watermark Fequency Display");
                    pinMode (INPUT, signal_input_pin);
                  }
                  
                  
                  void loop() {
                    // put your main code here, to run repeatedly:
                    float Signal_Freqency = freqencyMeasure(signal_input_pin);
                    Serial.print(" Frequency H+L; = ");
                    Serial.print(Signal_Freqency);
                    Serial.print("   ");
                    
                    float Signal_Resistance = resistanceCalc(Signal_Freqency);
                    Serial.print(" Resistance; = ");
                    Serial.print(Signal_Resistance);
                    Serial.print("   ");
                    
                    float Signal_kPa = kPaCalc(Signal_Resistance, TsoilF);     // input using Fahrenheit temperature
                    Serial.print(" kPA ; = ");
                    Serial.print(Signal_kPa);
                    Serial.print("   ");
                    
                    float Signal_kPa2 = kPaCalc2(Signal_Resistance, TsoilC);   // input using Celcius temperature
                    Serial.print(" kPA Version 2; = ");
                    Serial.print(Signal_kPa2);
                    Serial.print("   ");
                      
                    //float Signal_Freqency2 = freqencyMeasure2(signal_input_pin);
                    //Serial.print(" Frequency H*2; = ");
                    //Serial.println(Signal_Freqency2);
                    //Serial.print("   ");
                  
                   
                    Serial.print(" Perentage; = ");
                    Serial.println(map(Signal_kPa, 0,200,0,100));
                    Serial.print("   ");
                    
                    delay(500);
                  }
                  
                  //---------------------------------------------------------------
                  long resistanceCalc(float frequencyInput){
                    // Convert from freqency to Resistance measurement
                    // From SMX.pdf datasheet, page 6
                    // 48 Hz    = 10,000,000 Ohms
                    // 76 Hz    =    262,144 Ohms
                    // 13233 Hz =          0 ohms 
                    // using lookup table held in the array  RESISTORarray   
                  
                    //frequencyInput = constrain(frequencyInput,50, 13233);
                    float newVal;
                    if (frequencyInput <= RESISTORarray[0]) {     // Minimum value
                      newVal = RESISTORarray[0+1];
                    }
                    if (frequencyInput >= RESISTORarray[74]) {     // Maximum value
                      newVal = RESISTORarray[74+1];
                    }  
                    for (int i=0; i<74; i=i+2) {
                      if ((frequencyInput >= RESISTORarray[i]) && (frequencyInput <= RESISTORarray[i+2])) {
                        newVal = RESISTORarray[i+1] - ((RESISTORarray[i+1]-RESISTORarray[i+3]) * ((frequencyInput-RESISTORarray[i]) / (RESISTORarray[i+2]-RESISTORarray[i])));
                        break;
                      }
                    }
                    return newVal;
                  }
                  
                  //---------------------------------------------------------------
                  long kPaCalc(float ResistanceInput, float FTemperatureInput){
                    // Convert from Resistance to SWP kPa measurement
                    // From SMX.pdf datasheet, page 7
                    //   550 Ohms =  0 SWP kPa
                    //  6000 Ohms = 35 SWP kPa
                    // 28075 Ohms =200 SWP kPa
                    // using lookup table held in the array  SWPkPAarray   
                    // table valid for temperature of 75F, 24C
                    // for increase of 1°F increase resistance by 1%.
                    // ** this function accepts temperature in Fahrenheit units **
                    float newVal;
                  
                    // Adjust compensate resistance for temperature.
                    // per page 8 of SMX.pdf 
                    float ResistanceCompensated = ResistanceInput;
                    
                      if (ResistanceCompensated <= SWPkPAarray[0]) {     // Minimum value
                      newVal = SWPkPAarray[0+1];
                    }
                    if (ResistanceCompensated >= SWPkPAarray[74]) {     // Maximum value
                      newVal = SWPkPAarray[16+1];
                    }  
                    //for (int i=0; i<SWPkPAarray.length-2; i=i+2) {
                    for (int i=0; i<16; i=i+2) {
                      if ((ResistanceCompensated >= SWPkPAarray[i]) && (ResistanceCompensated <= SWPkPAarray[i+2])) {
                        newVal = SWPkPAarray[i+1] - ((SWPkPAarray[i+1]-SWPkPAarray[i+3]) * ((ResistanceInput-SWPkPAarray[i]) / (SWPkPAarray[i+2]-SWPkPAarray[i])));
                        break;
                      }
                    }
                    return newVal;
                  }
                  
                  
                  //---------------------------------------------------------------
                  long kPaCalc2(float ResistanceInput, float CTemperatureInput){
                    // Second Method of conversion
                    // Convert from Resistance to SWP kPa measurement
                    // From SMX.pdf datasheet, page 9
                    // kPa = (3.213 * kohms + 4.093) / {1 - 0.009733 * kohms - 0.01205 * Celsius)
                    // ** this function accepts temperature in Celsius units **
                    
                    ResistanceInput = ResistanceInput/1000;     // ohms to Kohms
                    float newVal = (3.213 * ResistanceInput + 4.093) / (1 - 0.009733 * ResistanceInput - 0.01205 * CTemperatureInput);
                    return newVal;
                  }
                  
                  
                  //---------------------------------------------------------------
                  long freqencyMeasure(int input_pin) {
                    // if mark-space ratio is equal then only one measurement High time or low time and double it is required.
                    int HighInput;      // Store high time of wave in microseconds
                    int LowInput;       // store Low time of wave in microseconds
                    float TotalInput;   // Temp store of total time of duration for one cycle of high and low pulse
                    float frequency;    // calculated freqency   1/total time of one cycle.
                    HighInput = pulseIn(input_pin,HIGH);
                    LowInput  = pulseIn(input_pin,LOW);
                    TotalInput = HighInput + LowInput;
                    frequency = 1000000L / TotalInput;
                    /*
                    Serial.print(" HighInput; = ");
                    Serial.print(HighInput);
                    Serial.print("   ");
                    Serial.print(" Low Input; = ");
                    Serial.print(LowInput);
                    Serial.print("   ");
                    */
                    if (HighInput >0 && LowInput>0) return frequency;   // reading valid
                    return 0;
                   } 
                  
                  //---------------------------------------------------------------
                   long freqencyMeasure2(int input_pin) {
                    // if mark-space ratio is equal then only one measurement High time or low time and double it is required.
                    int HighInput;      // Store high time of wave in microseconds
                    int LowInput;       // store Low time of wave in microseconds
                    float TotalInput;   // Temp store of total time of duration for one cycle of high and low pulse
                    float frequency;    // calculated freqency   1/total time of one cycle.
                    HighInput = pulseIn(input_pin,HIGH);
                    //LowInput  = pulseIn(input_pin,LOW);
                    TotalInput = HighInput *2;
                    frequency = 1000000L / TotalInput;
                    if (HighInput >0) return frequency;   // reading valid
                    return 0;
                   } 
                  

                  I hope this helps.

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                  @hard-shovel
                  Ouha, your are a genius!!
                  I am going to look at this deeply. I keep you up to date!
                  Thaaank!!!!!!!

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                    Hi
                    Well i think that 48Hz is good for a very dry sensor or disconnected unit.
                    If you do not wish to get the sensor wet, you could try connecting various resistors to the input to simulate the sensor and vary the frequency signal.

                    I tested the following program using a signal generator to input the frequency signal to test the conversions as the SMX datasheet,

                    There are the three main functions:
                    Input Pin to Frequency
                    Frequency to Resistance (using a lookup table as per page 6)
                    Resistance to kPa (using a lookup table as per page 7 with Fahrenheit temperature compensation)
                    Alternative Resistance to kPA (using the calculation on page 9 with Celsius temperature compensation)

                    I have not included any temperature conversions from Fahrenheit to Celsius so each function uses the temperature as per the data sheet.

                    My code is just quick and simple just to get started.

                    // test program to test Watermark Sensor using the SMX interface using frequency mode.
                    // see https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/9384/how-to-read-frequency-output-from-watermark-sensor
                    // see http://emesystems.com/pdfs/SMX.pdf for data sheet
                    
                    
                    // global var
                    int signal_input_pin = 4;  // Sensor pulse pin
                    float TsoilF = 75;         // Soil temperature in  Fahrenheit
                    float TsoilC = 24;         // Soil temperature in  Centrigrade
                    
                    long RESISTORarray[76] = {
                    // Watermark Sensor SMX interface Hz to Resistance lookup table per SMX.pdf page 6. 
                    48,  10000000,
                    76,  262144,
                    85,  196608,
                    103, 131072,
                    122, 98304,
                    157, 65536,
                    194, 49152,
                    264, 32768,
                    335, 24567,
                    476, 16384,
                    612, 12288,
                    874, 8192,
                    1135,  6144,
                    1623,  4096,
                    2071,  3072,
                    2862,  2048,
                    3557,  1536,
                    4697,  1024,
                    5596,  768,
                    6932,  512,
                    7878,  384,
                    9104,  256,
                    9882,  192,
                    10802, 128,
                    11312, 96,
                    11893, 64,
                    12200, 48,
                    12526, 32,
                    12708, 24,
                    12871, 16,
                    12962, 12,
                    13047, 8,
                    13092, 6,
                    13139, 4,
                    13162, 3,
                    13186, 2,
                    13209, 1,
                    13233, 0,
                    };
                    
                    long SWPkPAarray[18]{
                    // Watermark Sensor SMX interface Resistance to SWP kPa lookup table per SMX.pdf page 7. 
                    // this table is valid at temperature of 75F, 24C  
                     550,  0,
                    1000,  9,
                    1100,  10,
                    2000,  15,
                    6000,  35,
                    9200,  55,
                    12200, 75,
                    15575, 100,
                    28075, 200,
                    };
                    
                    
                    void setup() {
                        // initialize the serial communications:
                      Serial.begin(115200);
                      Serial.println("Watermark Fequency Display");
                      pinMode (INPUT, signal_input_pin);
                    }
                    
                    
                    void loop() {
                      // put your main code here, to run repeatedly:
                      float Signal_Freqency = freqencyMeasure(signal_input_pin);
                      Serial.print(" Frequency H+L; = ");
                      Serial.print(Signal_Freqency);
                      Serial.print("   ");
                      
                      float Signal_Resistance = resistanceCalc(Signal_Freqency);
                      Serial.print(" Resistance; = ");
                      Serial.print(Signal_Resistance);
                      Serial.print("   ");
                      
                      float Signal_kPa = kPaCalc(Signal_Resistance, TsoilF);     // input using Fahrenheit temperature
                      Serial.print(" kPA ; = ");
                      Serial.print(Signal_kPa);
                      Serial.print("   ");
                      
                      float Signal_kPa2 = kPaCalc2(Signal_Resistance, TsoilC);   // input using Celcius temperature
                      Serial.print(" kPA Version 2; = ");
                      Serial.print(Signal_kPa2);
                      Serial.print("   ");
                        
                      //float Signal_Freqency2 = freqencyMeasure2(signal_input_pin);
                      //Serial.print(" Frequency H*2; = ");
                      //Serial.println(Signal_Freqency2);
                      //Serial.print("   ");
                    
                     
                      Serial.print(" Perentage; = ");
                      Serial.println(map(Signal_kPa, 0,200,0,100));
                      Serial.print("   ");
                      
                      delay(500);
                    }
                    
                    //---------------------------------------------------------------
                    long resistanceCalc(float frequencyInput){
                      // Convert from freqency to Resistance measurement
                      // From SMX.pdf datasheet, page 6
                      // 48 Hz    = 10,000,000 Ohms
                      // 76 Hz    =    262,144 Ohms
                      // 13233 Hz =          0 ohms 
                      // using lookup table held in the array  RESISTORarray   
                    
                      //frequencyInput = constrain(frequencyInput,50, 13233);
                      float newVal;
                      if (frequencyInput <= RESISTORarray[0]) {     // Minimum value
                        newVal = RESISTORarray[0+1];
                      }
                      if (frequencyInput >= RESISTORarray[74]) {     // Maximum value
                        newVal = RESISTORarray[74+1];
                      }  
                      for (int i=0; i<74; i=i+2) {
                        if ((frequencyInput >= RESISTORarray[i]) && (frequencyInput <= RESISTORarray[i+2])) {
                          newVal = RESISTORarray[i+1] - ((RESISTORarray[i+1]-RESISTORarray[i+3]) * ((frequencyInput-RESISTORarray[i]) / (RESISTORarray[i+2]-RESISTORarray[i])));
                          break;
                        }
                      }
                      return newVal;
                    }
                    
                    //---------------------------------------------------------------
                    long kPaCalc(float ResistanceInput, float FTemperatureInput){
                      // Convert from Resistance to SWP kPa measurement
                      // From SMX.pdf datasheet, page 7
                      //   550 Ohms =  0 SWP kPa
                      //  6000 Ohms = 35 SWP kPa
                      // 28075 Ohms =200 SWP kPa
                      // using lookup table held in the array  SWPkPAarray   
                      // table valid for temperature of 75F, 24C
                      // for increase of 1°F increase resistance by 1%.
                      // ** this function accepts temperature in Fahrenheit units **
                      float newVal;
                    
                      // Adjust compensate resistance for temperature.
                      // per page 8 of SMX.pdf 
                      float ResistanceCompensated = ResistanceInput;
                      
                        if (ResistanceCompensated <= SWPkPAarray[0]) {     // Minimum value
                        newVal = SWPkPAarray[0+1];
                      }
                      if (ResistanceCompensated >= SWPkPAarray[74]) {     // Maximum value
                        newVal = SWPkPAarray[16+1];
                      }  
                      //for (int i=0; i<SWPkPAarray.length-2; i=i+2) {
                      for (int i=0; i<16; i=i+2) {
                        if ((ResistanceCompensated >= SWPkPAarray[i]) && (ResistanceCompensated <= SWPkPAarray[i+2])) {
                          newVal = SWPkPAarray[i+1] - ((SWPkPAarray[i+1]-SWPkPAarray[i+3]) * ((ResistanceInput-SWPkPAarray[i]) / (SWPkPAarray[i+2]-SWPkPAarray[i])));
                          break;
                        }
                      }
                      return newVal;
                    }
                    
                    
                    //---------------------------------------------------------------
                    long kPaCalc2(float ResistanceInput, float CTemperatureInput){
                      // Second Method of conversion
                      // Convert from Resistance to SWP kPa measurement
                      // From SMX.pdf datasheet, page 9
                      // kPa = (3.213 * kohms + 4.093) / {1 - 0.009733 * kohms - 0.01205 * Celsius)
                      // ** this function accepts temperature in Celsius units **
                      
                      ResistanceInput = ResistanceInput/1000;     // ohms to Kohms
                      float newVal = (3.213 * ResistanceInput + 4.093) / (1 - 0.009733 * ResistanceInput - 0.01205 * CTemperatureInput);
                      return newVal;
                    }
                    
                    
                    //---------------------------------------------------------------
                    long freqencyMeasure(int input_pin) {
                      // if mark-space ratio is equal then only one measurement High time or low time and double it is required.
                      int HighInput;      // Store high time of wave in microseconds
                      int LowInput;       // store Low time of wave in microseconds
                      float TotalInput;   // Temp store of total time of duration for one cycle of high and low pulse
                      float frequency;    // calculated freqency   1/total time of one cycle.
                      HighInput = pulseIn(input_pin,HIGH);
                      LowInput  = pulseIn(input_pin,LOW);
                      TotalInput = HighInput + LowInput;
                      frequency = 1000000L / TotalInput;
                      /*
                      Serial.print(" HighInput; = ");
                      Serial.print(HighInput);
                      Serial.print("   ");
                      Serial.print(" Low Input; = ");
                      Serial.print(LowInput);
                      Serial.print("   ");
                      */
                      if (HighInput >0 && LowInput>0) return frequency;   // reading valid
                      return 0;
                     } 
                    
                    //---------------------------------------------------------------
                     long freqencyMeasure2(int input_pin) {
                      // if mark-space ratio is equal then only one measurement High time or low time and double it is required.
                      int HighInput;      // Store high time of wave in microseconds
                      int LowInput;       // store Low time of wave in microseconds
                      float TotalInput;   // Temp store of total time of duration for one cycle of high and low pulse
                      float frequency;    // calculated freqency   1/total time of one cycle.
                      HighInput = pulseIn(input_pin,HIGH);
                      //LowInput  = pulseIn(input_pin,LOW);
                      TotalInput = HighInput *2;
                      frequency = 1000000L / TotalInput;
                      if (HighInput >0) return frequency;   // reading valid
                      return 0;
                     } 
                    

                    I hope this helps.

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                    @hard-shovel
                    It's a huge, great what you wrote!!!
                    I will test it tomorrow!!! and compare the two different to calculate kpa ( kPaCalc2() and kPaCalc() )
                    :+1:

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                      @hard-shovel
                      Ouha, your are a genius!!
                      I am going to look at this deeply. I keep you up to date!
                      Thaaank!!!!!!!

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                      @pierrot10
                      please change the line 152
                      from

                      float ResistanceCompensated = ResistanceInput;
                      

                      to

                        float ResistanceCompensated = ResistanceInput *(1 + 0.001*(FTemperatureInput-75));
                      
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                        @pierrot10
                        please change the line 152
                        from

                        float ResistanceCompensated = ResistanceInput;
                        

                        to

                          float ResistanceCompensated = ResistanceInput *(1 + 0.001*(FTemperatureInput-75));
                        
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                        @hard-shovel
                        Thank a lot for your code, I tested it.

                        It's interresting but I finaly got the same values as I tested until now with untrustable function (wmsmx() )

                        I compared the return value of

                        //---------------------------------------------------------------
                        long kPaCalc(float ResistanceInput, float FTemperatureInput){
                         // Convert from Resistance to SWP kPa measurement
                         // From SMX.pdf datasheet, page 7
                         //   550 Ohms =  0 SWP kPa
                         //  6000 Ohms = 35 SWP kPa
                         // 28075 Ohms =200 SWP kPa
                         // using lookup table held in the array  SWPkPAarray   
                         // table valid for temperature of 75F, 24C
                         // for increase of 1°F increase resistance by 1%.
                         // ** this function accepts temperature in Fahrenheit units **
                         Serial.print(F("DEBUG: ResistanceInput: ")); Serial.println(ResistanceInput);
                         float newVal;
                        
                         // Adjust compensate resistance for temperature.
                         // per page 8 of SMX.pdf 
                         float ResistanceCompensated =  ResistanceInput *(1 + 0.001*(FTemperatureInput-75));;
                         Serial.print(F("DEBUG: ResistanceCompensated: ")); Serial.println(ResistanceInput);
                         
                           if (ResistanceCompensated <= SWPkPAarray[0]) {     // Minimum value
                           newVal = SWPkPAarray[0+1];
                         }
                         if (ResistanceCompensated >= SWPkPAarray[74]) {     // Maximum value
                           newVal = SWPkPAarray[16+1];
                         }  
                         //for (int i=0; i<SWPkPAarray.length-2; i=i+2) {
                         for (int i=0; i<16; i=i+2) {
                           if ((ResistanceCompensated >= SWPkPAarray[i]) && (ResistanceCompensated <= SWPkPAarray[i+2])) {
                             newVal = SWPkPAarray[i+1] - ((SWPkPAarray[i+1]-SWPkPAarray[i+3]) * ((ResistanceInput-SWPkPAarray[i]) / (SWPkPAarray[i+2]-SWPkPAarray[i])));
                             break;
                           }
                         }
                         return newVal;
                        }
                        

                        with my function I did not trust

                        void get_wmsmx(int powerPin, int pinRead, unsigned long timeout, int16_t &val)
                         {
                        
                            /*
                            * Second soluion more precise
                            */
                            int highInput, lowInput;             // Store high and low time of wave in microseconds
                            float totalInput;                     // Temp store of total time of duration for one cycle of high and low pulse
                            float frequency;                      // calculated freqency   1/total time of one cycle.
                            float swp;
                            int wrm;
                            //float Tsoil=24; //temp
                            highInput = pulseIn(pinRead,HIGH);
                            lowInput  = pulseIn(pinRead,LOW);
                            totalInput = highInput + lowInput;
                            
                            frequency = 1000000 / totalInput;
                            percent = map(frequency,48,13233,0,100);
                           
                            
                            if (highInput >0 && lowInput>0)
                            {
                              Si.sprint(F("Frequency2 at "),2); Si.sprint(pinRead,2); Si.sprint(F(": "),2); Si.sprint(frequency,2); Si.sprint(F("Hz "),2);
                              Si.sprint(F("("),2); Si.sprint(percent,2); Si.sprintln(F("%)"),2);
                            }
                            else
                            {
                              Si.sprint(F("frequency: "),2);
                              Si.sprintln(F("Error"),2);
                            }
                            delay(500);
                            
                            sw.digitalWrite(powerPin, LOW);
                        
                        /*
                        *  Calculate  SWP (kPa)
                        */
                            uint8_t Tsoil = mesMesures[c_temperature_soil][capteur_temperature_soil_id].valeur;
                            wrm = map(frequency,48,13233,27950,550);
                        
                            Si.sprint(F("WRM: "),2); Si.sprint(wrm,2); Si.sprintln(F(" Ohm"),2);
                            Si.sprintln(F("Calculate SWP"),2);
                            //kPa = (3.213 * kohms + 4.093) / (1 - 0.009733 * kohms - 0.01205 * Celsius)
                            swp = (3.213 * (wrm/1000) + 4.093) / (1 - 0.009733 * (wrm/1000) - 0.01205 * Tsoil);
                            Si.sprint(F("SWP: "),2); Si.sprint(swp,2); Si.sprint(F("kPa"),2);
                            Si.sprint(F(" for a soil temp of "),2); Si.sprintln(Tsoil,2);
                            
                            val = (int16_t)percent;
                         }
                        

                        the return value with mine function

                        SWP: 202.77kPa for a soil temp of 24C
                        It's very close to yours

                        I also was very interrested about the return value of yours second function:

                        long kPaCalc2(float ResistanceInput, float CTemperatureInput){
                          // Second Method of conversion
                          // Convert from Resistance to SWP kPa measurement
                          // From SMX.pdf datasheet, page 9
                          // kPa = (3.213 * kohms + 4.093) / {1 - 0.009733 * kohms - 0.01205 * Celsius)
                          // ** this function accepts temperature in Celsius units **
                          
                          ResistanceInput = ResistanceInput/1000;     // ohms to Kohms
                          float newVal = (3.213 * ResistanceInput + 4.093) / (1 - 0.009733 * ResistanceInput - 0.01205 * CTemperatureInput);
                          return newVal;
                        }
                        

                        because it displays -332.00kpa, and this was the result I always got before adding

                        wrm = map(frequency,48,13233,27950,550);
                        

                        in my fonction wmsmx();

                        I always thout that -332 was a error as I was convinced that it could not exceed -200 and SWP is always negatif from 0 to -200.

                        I am still wondering why we got a value of -332 instead of -200 (or around -200)

                        So what is more relevent between kPaCalc and kPaCalc2?
                        This study also use the same formula as you, but they spoke about 0 -239kPa

                        According to the manufacturer’s sensor specifications, the rated range of measurement of the Watermark 200SS sensors is from 0 to −239 kPa, although the normal usable range is from 0 to −200 kPa, where a reading around 0 kPa would indicate that the soil is at or near saturation and a reading at or near −200 would indicate a very dry soil with little or no plant available water. There are several types of commercial loggers that can automatically read the Watermark 200SS sensors at specified time intervals and store the collected data, and a device to manually read these sensors is also available (Figure 1(b)).
                        

                        Do you think they provide the formula but they do not say all about how the get -239? (otherwise they will have -324Kpa (or somethink about this...)

                        I conclude, the best way is to use your proposition kPaCalc() because you consider the manufacturer TABLE1 value (page6) but your value is positif.

                        Do you have idea about positif vs negatif kPa value (200 or -200)?
                        I also conclude that my result was not sur wrong, while I expected it as obsolete :).

                        What do you tink about how I calculate kPa in my function wmsmx(), as I am using the map function to get the Rwm (watermark sensor)

                        Should I better follow your example as your "hard coded" the table value?

                        long RESISTORarray[76]
                        long SWPkPAarray[18]
                        long resistanceCalc(float frequencyInput)
                        

                        Now my main worries is about negatif SWP value vs positif SWP value.

                        Many thank!!!!
                        Cheers

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                          pierrot10

                          I have not tested your routine, but i did test my two functions.

                          With what input resistance figures did you test with?
                          The kPaCalc() using the lookup table has upper and higher limits so only shows the ranges 0 to 200 kPa the same as the data sheet smx.
                          The kPaCalc2() only has the raw calculation so has no upper or lower limits,

                          However if you compare the outputs for the normal range 550 ohms to 27950 ohms.

                          Irrometer Corporation has published a table of electrical resistance values in relation to soil moisture in kPa. (table
                          2 and figure 5 above are taken from "chart #3") The resistance ranges from 550 ohms in saturated soil, 0.0 kPa, to
                          27950 ohms in bone dry soil, 199 kPa. That is at 75 degrees Fahrenheit, 24 degrees Celsius.
                          

                          within this range the outputs of the two functions are similar and both positive. You will need to invert both of them if you require a negative value.

                           Hz	ohms	KpaCalc	kPaCalc2
                          43	10mOhm	200	-332
                          48	10mOhm	200	-332
                          76	262144	200	-459
                          79	240298	200	-476
                          85	196608	200	-528
                          103	131072	200	-752
                          122	98304	200	-1300
                          157	65536	200	2943
                          194	49152	200	697
                          264	32768	200	279
                          280	30919	200	252
                          300	28609	200	222
                          310	27454	195	208
                          335	24682	172	176
                          476	16384	106	102
                          612	12288	75	73
                          874	8192	48	48
                          1135	6144	36	36
                          1623	4096	25	25
                          2071	3072	20	20
                          2862	2048	15	15
                          3557	1536	12	12
                          4697	1024	9	10
                          5596	768	4	9
                          5800	728	3	9
                          6000	690	2	8
                          6200	652	2	8
                          6400	613	1	8
                          6600	575	0	8
                          6932	512	0	8
                          7878	384	0	7
                          9104	256	0	6
                          9882	192	0	6
                          10802	128	0	6
                          11312	96	0	6
                          11893	64	0	6
                          12200	48	0	5
                          12526	32	0	
                          12708	24	0	
                          12871	16	0	
                          12962	12	0	
                          

                          However all of the above is theoretical, as you should need to test your actual sensors in soil the same as the final position and calibrate to the real Wet and dry soil readings.
                          What are you going to use the data received from the sensor for?

                          //---------------------------------------------------------------
                          long kPaCalc(float ResistanceInput, float FTemperatureInput){
                            // Convert from Resistance to SWP kPa measurement
                            // From SMX.pdf datasheet, page 7
                            //   550 Ohms =  0 SWP kPa
                            //  6000 Ohms = 35 SWP kPa
                            // 28075 Ohms =200 SWP kPa
                            // using lookup table held in the array  SWPkPAarray   
                            // table valid for temperature of 75F, 24C
                            // for increase of 1°F increase resistance by 1%.
                            // ** this function accepts temperature in Fahrenheit units **
                            float newVal;
                          
                            // Adjust compensate resistance for temperature.
                            // per page 8 of SMX.pdf 
                            float ResistanceCompensated = ResistanceInput *(1 + 0.001*(FTemperatureInput-75));
                            
                              if (ResistanceCompensated <= SWPkPAarray[0]) {     // Minimum value
                              newVal = SWPkPAarray[0+1];
                            } 
                            if (ResistanceCompensated >= SWPkPAarray[16]) {     // Maximum value
                              newVal = SWPkPAarray[16+1];
                            }  
                            //for (int i=0; i<SWPkPAarray.length-2; i=i+2) {
                            for (int i=0; i<16; i=i+2) {
                              if ((ResistanceCompensated >= SWPkPAarray[i]) && (ResistanceCompensated <= SWPkPAarray[i+2])) {
                                newVal = SWPkPAarray[i+1] - ((SWPkPAarray[i+1]-SWPkPAarray[i+3]) * ((ResistanceInput-SWPkPAarray[i]) / (SWPkPAarray[i+2]-SWPkPAarray[i])));
                                break;
                              }
                            }
                            return newVal;
                          }```
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                            @hard-shovel
                            Hello,it's verry interresting what you shared.
                            Today I left the SMX input open. No sensor no resistance. I discovered, I get the same value when the sensor is in a fully dried soil. And I did not have the sensor with me.

                            Yes, I have a box that I fill up with soil of the crop where the sensors will be for the measurement.
                            We only want to monitor the soil moiture from June to Septembre and the result will be display in a graph.

                            Some week ago, I wrote a loop to simulate the watermark voltage. In your second table you show that KPA can be from -332 to -1300 and then immediately to a positif number. That difference make me souspicious. I am still souspicous when I look from 48Hz to 157Hz (the doc give a range of frequency from 48Hz to 13233Hz.)

                            But at the final, as I understood, what is relevant is from 1220Hz to +/- 310hz (from 550Ohm to 27950). From 27950 and above, the soil is fully dry, whatever if the kPa goes to -1300 or -352. And from 550Ohm or below, the soil is fully wet.

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                              @hard-shovel
                              Hello,it's verry interresting what you shared.
                              Today I left the SMX input open. No sensor no resistance. I discovered, I get the same value when the sensor is in a fully dried soil. And I did not have the sensor with me.

                              Yes, I have a box that I fill up with soil of the crop where the sensors will be for the measurement.
                              We only want to monitor the soil moiture from June to Septembre and the result will be display in a graph.

                              Some week ago, I wrote a loop to simulate the watermark voltage. In your second table you show that KPA can be from -332 to -1300 and then immediately to a positif number. That difference make me souspicious. I am still souspicous when I look from 48Hz to 157Hz (the doc give a range of frequency from 48Hz to 13233Hz.)

                              But at the final, as I understood, what is relevant is from 1220Hz to +/- 310hz (from 550Ohm to 27950). From 27950 and above, the soil is fully dry, whatever if the kPa goes to -1300 or -352. And from 550Ohm or below, the soil is fully wet.

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                              @pierrot10
                              Yes i think that is correct 550 Ohm to 27950 Ohms is the range for the watermark sensor.

                              For the SMX module with input open no sensor should be 48Hz as you have already discovered, and if you short the input terminals out you should get 13233Hz so total range of the module is more than the sensor.

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                                Yes i think that is correct 550 Ohm to 27950 Ohms is the range for the watermark sensor.

                                For the SMX module with input open no sensor should be 48Hz as you have already discovered, and if you short the input terminals out you should get 13233Hz so total range of the module is more than the sensor.

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                                @hard-shovel
                                I think, now it's clearer for me.

                                First, SMX module has a range from 48hz to 13233hz
                                But the watermak sensor has a range from 550 to 27950 ohm

                                As we use watermark to measure the soil mostire, wehave to consier the range of 550 to 27950 which match with 6700Hz (more or less) and 310Hz. What is below or above is not relevant for moisture measurement with Wathermark.

                                Are you agree with me?

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                                  @hard-shovel
                                  I think, now it's clearer for me.

                                  First, SMX module has a range from 48hz to 13233hz
                                  But the watermak sensor has a range from 550 to 27950 ohm

                                  As we use watermark to measure the soil mostire, wehave to consier the range of 550 to 27950 which match with 6700Hz (more or less) and 310Hz. What is below or above is not relevant for moisture measurement with Wathermark.

                                  Are you agree with me?

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                                  @pierrot10

                                  Yes I do agree that is how i understand the operation from the data sheet.

                                  if your still concerned about the possibility of negative results you could add something like either of the following

                                  Frequency = constrain(Frequency, 48, 133233);
                                  
                                  or 
                                  
                                  Resistance = constrain(Resistance, 500, 27950);
                                  

                                  My main concern in the long term would be the sensor connections being corroded and the sensor resistance becoming open. So error checking for higher or lower than normal values for sensor fault conditions might be worthwhile.

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                                    Dear hard-shovel,

                                    I do not know if you are still around and if you can help me a bit.
                                    I actually put into the soil a watermark at 20cm. I add some water to see the watermark measurement and I used your proposition (code)

                                    I can not understand why I have a WRm of 518 and it retrun me a 200kPa It should be 0

                                    Getting WM1 (SMX):
                                    Frequency at 15: 6896Hz WRM: 518
                                    WRM: 518
                                    WRMc: 518
                                    SWP: 200
                                    

                                    Here si the code:
                                    Note: sw.something. The sw is beacuse I use Seesaw Seesaw borad from Adafruit to have more DIO

                                    // getting the swp.
                                    // wm1_power_pin is pin which ppower smx
                                    // wm1_power_pin is the pin read the value
                                    // val is the return value
                                    get_wmsmx(wm1_power_pin, wm1_read_pin, 1000000, val, true);
                                    mesMesures[c_wm1][capteur_wm1_id].valeur = val; // The final SWP is store here
                                    

                                    Dont pain attention at 'alternative'. It's alway true and I will clean the code.

                                    void get_wmsmx(int powerPin, int pinRead, unsigned long timeout, int16_t &val, bool alternative)
                                     {
                                        sw.digitalWrite(powerPin, HIGH);
                                        delay(1000); // Need to have the sensor "in equilibre" with the soil.
                                        
                                        int highInput, lowInput;             // Store high and low time of wave in microseconds
                                        float totalInput;                     // Temp store of total time of duration for one cycle of high and low pulse
                                        float frequency;                      // calculated freqency   1/total time of one cycle.
                                        int16_t swp;
                                        int percent=0;
                                        int32_t wrm;
                                        //float Tsoil=24; //temp
                                        highInput = pulseIn(pinRead,HIGH);
                                        lowInput  = pulseIn(pinRead,LOW);
                                        totalInput = highInput + lowInput;
                                        
                                        frequency = 1000000 / totalInput;
                                       
                                        if (highInput >0 && lowInput>0)
                                        {
                                          Si.sprint(F("Frequency at "),2); Si.sprint(pinRead,2); Si.sprint(F(": "),2); Si.sprint((int16_t)frequency,2); Si.sprint(F("Hz "),2);
                                        }
                                        else
                                        {
                                          Si.sprint(F("frequency: "),2);
                                          Si.sprintln(F("Error"),2);
                                        }
                                        delay(500);
                                        
                                        sw.digitalWrite(powerPin, LOW);
                                    
                                        int16_t Tsoil = mesMesures[c_temperature_soil][capteur_temperature_soil_id].valeur;
                                         
                                        if(alternative == false)
                                        {
                                    // That is my old code. I will remove it
                                          wrm = map(frequency,48,13233,27950,550); // Must control the frequency for 440 and 27950
                                          
                                          Si.sprint(F("WRM: "),2); Si.sprint(wrm,2); Si.sprintln(F(" Ohm"),2);
                                          Si.sprintln(F("Calculate SWP"),2);
                                          //kPa = (3.213 * kohms + 4.093) / (1 - 0.009733 * kohms - 0.01205 * Celsius)
                                          swp = (int16_t)(3.213 * (wrm/1000) + 4.093) / (1 - 0.009733 * (wrm/1000) - 0.01205 * Tsoil);
                                          Si.sprint(F("SWP: "),2); Si.sprint(swp,2); Si.sprint(F("kPa"),2);
                                          Si.sprint(F(" for a soil temp of "),2); Si.sprintln(Tsoil,2);
                                        
                                          //val = (int16_t)percent;
                                          val = swp;
                                        }
                                        else
                                        {
                                            resistanceCalc(frequency, wrm);
                                            Si.sprint(F("WRM: "),2);
                                            Si.sprintln(wrm,2);
                                            kPaCalc(wrm, Tsoil, swp);
                                            val = swp;
                                        }
                                        Si.sprint(F("SWP: "),2); Si.sprintln(swp,2);
                                     }
                                    
                                    //---------------------------------------------------------------
                                    void resistanceCalc(float frequencyInput, int32_t &wrm){
                                      wrm=0;
                                      // Convert from freqency to Resistance measurement
                                      // From SMX.pdf datasheet, page 6
                                      // 48 Hz    = 10,000,000 Ohms
                                      // 76 Hz    =    262,144 Ohms
                                      // 13233 Hz =          0 ohms 
                                      // using lookup table held in the array  RESISTORarray   
                                    
                                      //frequencyInput = constrain(frequencyInput,50, 13233);
                                      //float newVal;
                                      if (frequencyInput <= RESISTORarray[0]) {     // Minimum value
                                        wrm = RESISTORarray[0+1];
                                      }
                                      if (frequencyInput >= RESISTORarray[74]) {     // Maximum value
                                        wrm = RESISTORarray[74+1];
                                      }  
                                      for (int i=0; i<74; i=i+2) {
                                        if ((frequencyInput >= RESISTORarray[i]) && (frequencyInput <= RESISTORarray[i+2]))
                                        {
                                          wrm = RESISTORarray[i+1] - ((RESISTORarray[i+1]-RESISTORarray[i+3]) * ((frequencyInput-RESISTORarray[i]) / (RESISTORarray[i+2]-RESISTORarray[i])));
                                          break;
                                        }
                                      }
                                      Si.sprint(F("WRM: "),2); Si.sprintln(wrm,2);
                                    }
                                    
                                    void kPaCalc(int32_t ResistanceInput, int16_t FTemperatureInput, int16_t &swp){
                                      // Convert from Resistance to SWP kPa measurement
                                      // From SMX.pdf datasheet, page 7
                                      //   550 Ohms =  0 SWP kPa
                                      //  6000 Ohms = 35 SWP kPa
                                      // 28075 Ohms =200 SWP kPa
                                      // using lookup table held in the array  SWPkPAarray   
                                      // table valid for temperature of 75F, 24C
                                      // for increase of 1°F increase resistance by 1%.
                                      // ** this function accepts temperature in Fahrenheit units **
                                      //float newVal;
                                    
                                    
                                      // Adjust compensate resistance for temperature and cpnvert celculs to Fahrenheit
                                      // per page 8 of SMX.pdf 
                                      swp=0;
                                      float ResistanceCompensated =  ResistanceInput *(1 + 0.001*((FTemperatureInput * 1.8 + 32)-75));
                                      Si.sprint(F("WRMc: "),2); Si.sprintln((int16_t)ResistanceCompensated,2);
                                      
                                        if (ResistanceCompensated <= SWPkPAarray[0]) {     // Minimum value
                                        swp = SWPkPAarray[0+1];
                                      }
                                      if (ResistanceCompensated >= SWPkPAarray[74]) {     // Maximum value
                                        swp = SWPkPAarray[16+1];
                                      }  
                                      //for (int i=0; i<SWPkPAarray.length-2; i=i+2) {
                                      for (int i=0; i<16; i=i+2) {
                                        if ((ResistanceCompensated >= SWPkPAarray[i]) && (ResistanceCompensated <= SWPkPAarray[i+2])) {
                                          swp = SWPkPAarray[i+1] - ((SWPkPAarray[i+1]-SWPkPAarray[i+3]) * ((ResistanceInput-SWPkPAarray[i]) / (SWPkPAarray[i+2]-SWPkPAarray[i])));
                                          break;
                                        }
                                      }
                                      //return newVal;
                                    }
                                    
                                    long RESISTORarray[76] = {
                                    // Watermark Sensor SMX interface Hz to Resistance lookup table per SMX.pdf page 6. 
                                    48,  10000000,
                                    76,  262144,
                                    85,  196608,
                                    103, 131072,
                                    122, 98304,
                                    157, 65536,
                                    194, 49152,
                                    264, 32768,
                                    335, 24567,
                                    476, 16384,
                                    612, 12288,
                                    874, 8192,
                                    1135,  6144,
                                    1623,  4096,
                                    2071,  3072,
                                    2862,  2048,
                                    3557,  1536,
                                    4697,  1024,
                                    5596,  768,
                                    6932,  512,
                                    7878,  384,
                                    9104,  256,
                                    9882,  192,
                                    10802, 128,
                                    11312, 96,
                                    11893, 64,
                                    12200, 48,
                                    12526, 32,
                                    12708, 24,
                                    12871, 16,
                                    12962, 12,
                                    13047, 8,
                                    13092, 6,
                                    13139, 4,
                                    13162, 3,
                                    13186, 2,
                                    13209, 1,
                                    13233, 0,
                                    };
                                    
                                    long SWPkPAarray[18]{
                                    // Watermark Sensor SMX interface Resistance to SWP kPa lookup table per SMX.pdf page 7. 
                                    // this table is valid at temperature of 75F, 24C  
                                     550,  0,
                                    1000,  9,
                                    1100,  10,
                                    2000,  15,
                                    6000,  35,
                                    9200,  55,
                                    12200, 75,
                                    15575, 100,
                                    28075, 200,
                                    };
                                    

                                    Many thank!!

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                                      I wonder if the problem does not come from here:

                                      if (ResistanceCompensated >= SWPkPAarray[74]) {}
                                      

                                      Should it be not 16?

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                                        yes you are correct, it should be 16.

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                                          Hello Hard-shovel !
                                          Are you still around?
                                          I ma still doubting about my SWP value returning by my sensor and by the code to calculate it.

                                          Until last week, I was used to use the great code you provide to me

                                          resistanceCalc(frequency, wrm);
                                                  Si.sprint(F("WRM: "),2);
                                                  Si.sprintln(wrm,2);
                                                  kPaCalc(wrm, Tsoil, swp);
                                                  val = swp;
                                          

                                          But I was always suspicous about the SWP value. I also bout a WATER digital reader and the values never matched.
                                          All the graph/line of Station3 is calculate with a temperature of 24Celcul. As sensor is in a room where the temeparture is between 24C and 28C, a small tolerence must be "accepted" :)

                                          Last week I used this to get the WRM (Watermark resistance)

                                          wrm = map(frequency,48,13233,27950,550)
                                          

                                          but never use it. The result is wrong. I compared with datsheet of the Isometer and the result never matches.

                                          However, your table works fine

                                          //---------------------------------------------------------------
                                          void resistanceCalc(float frequencyInput, int32_t &wrm){
                                            wrm=0;
                                            // Convert from freqency to Resistance measurement
                                            // From SMX.pdf datasheet, page 6
                                            // 48 Hz    = 10,000,000 Ohms
                                            // 76 Hz    =    262,144 Ohms
                                            // 13233 Hz =          0 ohms 
                                            // using lookup table held in the array  RESISTORarray   
                                          
                                            //frequencyInput = constrain(frequencyInput,50, 13233);
                                            //float newVal;
                                            if (frequencyInput <= RESISTORarray[0]) {     // Minimum value
                                              wrm = RESISTORarray[0+1];
                                            }
                                            if (frequencyInput >= RESISTORarray[74]) {     // Maximum value
                                              wrm = RESISTORarray[74+1];
                                            }  
                                            for (int i=0; i<74; i=i+2) {
                                              if ((frequencyInput >= RESISTORarray[i]) && (frequencyInput <= RESISTORarray[i+2]))
                                              {
                                                wrm = RESISTORarray[i+1] - ((RESISTORarray[i+1]-RESISTORarray[i+3]) * ((frequencyInput-RESISTORarray[i]) / (RESISTORarray[i+2]-RESISTORarray[i])));
                                                break;
                                              }
                                            }
                                            Si.sprint(F("WRM: "),2); Si.sprintln(wrm,2);
                                          }
                                          

                                          In order to be fixed this question, I used my LoRa node to send the wrm, swp and a second swp to my server and observe the diffrence.

                                          Look at this web page (go to Station 3)
                                          Station 3 (Teste)

                                          Note:
                                          Station 1 and 2 are two station on fields.
                                          Station 3 is a node I have at home. I put a little of water on matrix of the watermark until the SWP go to 8kpa and left it dried 1,5 day until the the SWP is 200kps. one hour ago, I put the watermark sensor into water for one hour, and I am going to leave it drying under the sun and compare the graph. Today afternoon (15.9.2018), I am going to update the code of station 1 and 2 to get the SWP value with the equation of Shock

                                          The red line is the WRM in Ohm and not ml/h (I have not change the unit).
                                          The yellow line is the SWP return with the equation of Shock

                                          swp = (int16_t)(3.213 * (wrm/1000) + 4.093) / (1 - 0.009733 * (wrm/1000) - 0.01205 * Tsoil);
                                          

                                          and the violet line is the SWP return by

                                          void kPaCalc(int32_t ResistanceInput, int16_t FTemperatureInput, int16_t &swp){
                                            // Convert from Resistance to SWP kPa measurement
                                            // From SMX.pdf datasheet, page 7
                                            //   550 Ohms =  0 SWP kPa
                                            //  6000 Ohms = 35 SWP kPa
                                            // 28075 Ohms =200 SWP kPa
                                            // using lookup table held in the array  SWPkPAarray   
                                            // table valid for temperature of 75F, 24C
                                            // for increase of 1°F increase resistance by 1%.
                                            // ** this function accepts temperature in Fahrenheit units **
                                            //float newVal;
                                          
                                          
                                            // Adjust compensate resistance for temperature and cpnvert celculs to Fahrenheit
                                            // per page 8 of SMX.pdf 
                                            swp=0;
                                            float ResistanceCompensated =  ResistanceInput *(1 + 0.001*((FTemperatureInput * 1.8 + 32)-75));
                                            Si.sprint(F("WRMc: "),2); Si.sprintln((int16_t)ResistanceCompensated,2);
                                            
                                              if (ResistanceCompensated <= SWPkPAarray[0]) {     // Minimum value
                                              swp = SWPkPAarray[0+1];
                                            }
                                            if (ResistanceCompensated >= SWPkPAarray[16]) {     // Maximum value
                                              swp = SWPkPAarray[16+1];
                                            }  
                                            //for (int i=0; i<SWPkPAarray.length-2; i=i+2) {
                                            for (int i=0; i<16; i=i+2) {
                                              if ((ResistanceCompensated >= SWPkPAarray[i]) && (ResistanceCompensated <= SWPkPAarray[i+2])) {
                                                swp = SWPkPAarray[i+1] - ((SWPkPAarray[i+1]-SWPkPAarray[i+3]) * ((ResistanceInput-SWPkPAarray[i]) / (SWPkPAarray[i+2]-SWPkPAarray[i])));
                                                break;
                                              }
                                            }
                                            //return newVal;
                                          }
                                          

                                          It's interresting to see that the kPaCalc() progress as a step and stop at 100kpa and jump at 200kpa only when the wrm is 27950.

                                          I used

                                          constrain (wrm,550,27950)
                                          

                                          so the wrm will not be display higher than 27950 even if it can go over 27950 as say the doc.

                                          The equation of Shock look perfect and I controlled it with Watermark data reader. The result is similar with a tolerance of 5-10kpa.
                                          From graph (See Station 3), I also compare the WRM and the SWP from the doc (see page 7) and SWP value matches.

                                          I wonder why, in the array

                                          long SWPkPAarray[18]{
                                          // Watermark Sensor SMX interface Resistance to SWP kPa lookup table per SMX.pdf page 7. 
                                          // this table is valid at temperature of 75F, 24C  
                                           550,  0,
                                          1000,  9,
                                          1100,  10,
                                          2000,  15,
                                          6000,  35,
                                          9200,  55,
                                          12200, 75,
                                          15575, 100,
                                          28075, 200,
                                          

                                          you do not consider a SWP between 100kpa and 200kpa.
                                          I thing it's very interresting to have value from 100kpa and 200kpa, as 100kpa is the moment when soil need to be irrigate and more we come close to 200kpa, more is dangerous.

                                          In any case, your function kPaCalc2() from the code you provided to me, 3 mounth ago seems to be best.

                                          Thank for all
                                          Cheers

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