[security] Introducing signing support to MySensors
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@Anticimex: I started a new thread http://forum.mysensors.org/topic/1782/gateway-is-sending-command-1-type-1-c-1-t-1-message-to-sensor
because it looks like it is not really related to signing.
In the post I included the log output of the message for which the nonce is being requested. It looks like the gateway node is sending back the humidity with a c=1 command. Somehow this does not make sense to me. -
@Anticimex: I started a new thread http://forum.mysensors.org/topic/1782/gateway-is-sending-command-1-type-1-c-1-t-1-message-to-sensor
because it looks like it is not really related to signing.
In the post I included the log output of the message for which the nonce is being requested. It looks like the gateway node is sending back the humidity with a c=1 command. Somehow this does not make sense to me.@tomkxy I see. Perhaps you request ACK or something like that. But ACKs are not signed. I have seen to that, so probably not. I am not too well into the non-signing aspects of the network though, so hopefully someone else perhaps can give a hint on what's wrong. Could be the sketch itself. I am glad we sorted the signing issues anyway :)
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@Anticimex: I found the issue with respect to the gateway sending a message back to the sensor. This is due to the gateway subscribing to all topics on the MQTT broker. Once it receives a message it sends it to the sensor as SET message. I have to resolve that one.
I think, I still have an issue with signing which I need to get sorted myself first. I will let you know.
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@Anticimex: I found the issue with respect to the gateway sending a message back to the sensor. This is due to the gateway subscribing to all topics on the MQTT broker. Once it receives a message it sends it to the sensor as SET message. I have to resolve that one.
I think, I still have an issue with signing which I need to get sorted myself first. I will let you know.
@tomkxy Alright. Good to know that you found the root cause for the message issue.
Regarding signing, from what I could see at least some signed messages did come through, so you should at least have the proper shared states (keys) and configs. -
I did a few test with my ATSHA204. I could get it working on an Uno. The I took the chip and placed it on my breadboard with my ProMini. I tried to run the SHA Personaliser Sketch again just to make sure that the chip is somehow working and I received an error message that the device cannot be woken up.
Since it worked on the Uno (including running the SHA Personalizer) it must be related to the ProMini (3.3V / 8 MHz).
To what pin do I have to connect the data line?
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I did a few test with my ATSHA204. I could get it working on an Uno. The I took the chip and placed it on my breadboard with my ProMini. I tried to run the SHA Personaliser Sketch again just to make sure that the chip is somehow working and I received an error message that the device cannot be woken up.
Since it worked on the Uno (including running the SHA Personalizer) it must be related to the ProMini (3.3V / 8 MHz).
To what pin do I have to connect the data line?
@tomkxy That sounds strange. I have run on ProMini 3.3V/8MHz without issues.
Default is to use A3 for the ATSHA204A. It does not really matter which pin you connect it as long as it is usable for digital I/O (and update MY_ATSHA204_PIN accordingly or provide your pin to the MySigningAtsha204 constructor). -
A3 is default setting. You can find the definition of MY_ATSHA204_PIN in MyConfig.h.
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Yep, it is
`#define MY_ATSHA204_PIN 17 // A3 - pin where ATSHA204 is attached `` I am just irritate by the 17. So this does map to A3 even on ProMini? -
@Anticimex Unfortunately, I am now in a total state of mess. It seems that nothing works anymore the moment I turn on any signing. For sure, I have a problem with ATSHA204 and the ProMini which I need to sort out separately. I tried them all with my Uno (reading out the config) which worked. When I try to just read the config with my ProMini I get the error cannot wake up device.
But now, even soft signing did not work any longer (it worked first, than I made changes and afte. I just receive nonce transmission errors from the sensor to the gateway although both radios are side by side and transmission without signing works perfectly.
Btw, what is stored in the EPROM and under what circumstances do I have to clear EPROM first. I changed between the various signing feature (soft signing, HW signing, signing required etc.) back and forth and it seems that this info is stored in EPROM and somehow not cleared?? How does the sensor know that the gateway requires signing? Will it get the info out of EPROM? Will this information be updated during presentation?
I think you did a great job on that implementation, the more frustrating it is that I cannot get it to work reliably. I am out for today. May be I find some time tomorrow getting anot ProMini prepared to checkout the issue with the chips.
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@Anticimex Unfortunately, I am now in a total state of mess. It seems that nothing works anymore the moment I turn on any signing. For sure, I have a problem with ATSHA204 and the ProMini which I need to sort out separately. I tried them all with my Uno (reading out the config) which worked. When I try to just read the config with my ProMini I get the error cannot wake up device.
But now, even soft signing did not work any longer (it worked first, than I made changes and afte. I just receive nonce transmission errors from the sensor to the gateway although both radios are side by side and transmission without signing works perfectly.
Btw, what is stored in the EPROM and under what circumstances do I have to clear EPROM first. I changed between the various signing feature (soft signing, HW signing, signing required etc.) back and forth and it seems that this info is stored in EPROM and somehow not cleared?? How does the sensor know that the gateway requires signing? Will it get the info out of EPROM? Will this information be updated during presentation?
I think you did a great job on that implementation, the more frustrating it is that I cannot get it to work reliably. I am out for today. May be I find some time tomorrow getting anot ProMini prepared to checkout the issue with the chips.
@tomkxy The information stored in EEPROM is not specific to any backend. It just informs the node what other nodes require signed messages. At startup, a node broadcasts it's preference to the gateway which then updates it's EEPROM table and replies with its own preference back so the node knows if the gateway wants signed messages as well. If the preferences differ from what is stored in EEPROM already, it is the updated preferences that will replace the stored preferences.
The usecases for this is if you were to deploy a new sensor which require signing, it would inform gateway of this at startup. But if you restart your gateway it would loose this unless it was stored in EEPROM (the same goes the other way around) so the EEPROM is used so that the signing rules in the network gets preserved even if nodes dissappear or restart.
If you suspect the EEPROM to contain corrupt data, you can clear it with the cleareeorom sketch/example.
The typical circumstance you need to clear EEPROM under is when you switch library version, and the reserved region of EEPROM in the library change (and you also use EEPROM in your sketch). Then the library might take some of your sketch data for "it's own" and that can/will lead to unpredictable results. -
Just to say, that I tried some weeks ago ATSHA204A with pro mini and had no problem too. Maybe you should try clear eeprom and retry. Or try with another pro mini. But it should work I think.
And for those who want to test excellent work of @Anticimex and @Tekka, I have posted a simple/basic not expensive, 1.8$ for 3 breakouts here : https://oshpark.com/shared_projects/lvvxsHSW . It can be useful for existing nodes too.See you soon
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Just to say, that I tried some weeks ago ATSHA204A with pro mini and had no problem too. Maybe you should try clear eeprom and retry. Or try with another pro mini. But it should work I think.
And for those who want to test excellent work of @Anticimex and @Tekka, I have posted a simple/basic not expensive, 1.8$ for 3 breakouts here : https://oshpark.com/shared_projects/lvvxsHSW . It can be useful for existing nodes too.See you soon
@scalz said:
Just to say, that I tried some weeks ago ATSHA204A with pro mini and had no problem too. Maybe you should try clear eeprom and retry. Or try with another pro mini. But it should work I think.
And for those who want to test excellent work of @Anticimex and @Tekka, I have posted a simple/basic not expensive, 1.8$ for 3 breakouts here : https://oshpark.com/shared_projects/lvvxsHSW . It can be useful for existing nodes too.Good idea - I'm finding soldering the ATSHA chips to be a real pain and a small breakout board would help with that. Is the eeprom pads on your board for people who are just using a mega328 chip? Doesn't a pro-mini already have enough eeprom on board?
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@TDD22057: eeprom on the breakout is for the new ota in Mysensors (over the air upload sketch) . It is not related to authentication.
I made this cheap breakout firstly because I wanted to test the new Mysensors features easily. and I thought it could be useful in some specific case where you don't need to make a pcb for one specific usercase so you use a veroboard and so you can easily add these new features with less pain...
Happy it can help some people :smile: -
Regarding my issue with the ATSHA204A, I did some testing with the following results. I soldered the ATSHA204A on a small breakout board and loaded the SHAPersonalizer sketch.
I tested three configurations:
- Breakout wired to the ProMini without breadboard use
- Breakout wired to a breadboard where the ProMini was plugged
- Breakout and ProMini both plugged to breadboard and connected by wires.
Config 3 does not work!!!
That means the breadboard significantly changes the electrical characteristics. Is anybody on the forum who is able to explain that? -
@tomkxy: it is strange. My first tests have been done in you config 3 (atsha breakout and promini both plugged to breadboard). And it worked well for me. Could it be your wire quality??? I had problems with some Dupont wire once...
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Well , could be... I had to use different wires female - female, male - female, male - male (for config 3). For the male-male wire I have no other option at the moment.
However, I am glad it works now.
@tomkxy said:
Well , could be... I had to use different wires female - female, male - female, male - male (for config 3). For the male-male wire I have no other option at the moment.
However, I am glad it works now.
Good news! Regarding breadboard issues, it could be that you need an additional decoupling on the VCC line to the atsha204a. And also perhaps a pullup on the SDA signal. Breadboards usually put some more requirements on noise suppression.
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