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  • FotoFieberF FotoFieber

    @jaredwolff 0_1557243066441_IMG_3835.jpg

    BME680 sensor mith MCU arrived. Hope I can read the chinese specification of the module.... :) (What stand PS for?)

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    @fotofieber hmm I'm not sure. Can you send me more info about the board you got?

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      @fotofieber hmm I'm not sure. Can you send me more info about the board you got?

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      @jaredwolff
      Found something on https://de.aliexpress.com/item/GY-MCU680V1-BME680-Sensor-Module-Temperature-and-Humidity-Air-Pressure-Air-Quality-IAQ-MCU680-Module/32902672818.html?spm=a2g0x.10010108.1000016.1.3bc92080ZxA8fs&isOrigTitle=true

      When soldering the PS solder joint, the module is in the chip's own IIC mode, at which point the MCU does not participate in the operation and does not consume current. Can be used as a simple BME680 module.

      And in serial mode:
      https://playground.cmmakerclub.com/2018/12/esp32/วิธีการใช้งาน-gy-mcu680-กับ-esp32/

      I will try the I2C mode first.

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      • FotoFieberF FotoFieber

        @jaredwolff
        Found something on https://de.aliexpress.com/item/GY-MCU680V1-BME680-Sensor-Module-Temperature-and-Humidity-Air-Pressure-Air-Quality-IAQ-MCU680-Module/32902672818.html?spm=a2g0x.10010108.1000016.1.3bc92080ZxA8fs&isOrigTitle=true

        When soldering the PS solder joint, the module is in the chip's own IIC mode, at which point the MCU does not participate in the operation and does not consume current. Can be used as a simple BME680 module.

        And in serial mode:
        https://playground.cmmakerclub.com/2018/12/esp32/วิธีการใช้งาน-gy-mcu680-กับ-esp32/

        I will try the I2C mode first.

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        @fotofieber I'm using I2C over here with great success. Let me know how it goes!

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          @fotofieber I'm using I2C over here with great success. Let me know how it goes!

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          @jaredwolff
          Seems like I only get an IAQ value for the BME680 and no (e)CO2. Is this correct?

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          • FotoFieberF FotoFieber

            @jaredwolff
            Seems like I only get an IAQ value for the BME680 and no (e)CO2. Is this correct?

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            @fotofieber correct! No C02. There's also temp, humidity and pressure. Here's a little code to get up and running with their C++ library.

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              @fotofieber correct! No C02. There's also temp, humidity and pressure. Here's a little code to get up and running with their C++ library.

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              @jaredwolff
              Managed to compile Bosch arduino demo code on ESP32 on platformio after 3 hours. :sunglasses:

              But then....

              BSEC library version 1.4.7.3
              Timestamp [ms], raw temperature [°C], pressure [hPa], raw relative humidity [%], gas [Ohm], IAQ, IAQ accuracy, temperature [°C], relative humidity [%], Static IAQ, CO2 equivalent, breath VOC equivalent
              BSEC error code : -2
              

              Maybe I give up here, as I really don't like to use binary code in my sensors....

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              • FotoFieberF FotoFieber

                @jaredwolff
                Managed to compile Bosch arduino demo code on ESP32 on platformio after 3 hours. :sunglasses:

                But then....

                BSEC library version 1.4.7.3
                Timestamp [ms], raw temperature [°C], pressure [hPa], raw relative humidity [%], gas [Ohm], IAQ, IAQ accuracy, temperature [°C], relative humidity [%], Static IAQ, CO2 equivalent, breath VOC equivalent
                BSEC error code : -2
                

                Maybe I give up here, as I really don't like to use binary code in my sensors....

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                @fotofieber integrating their static library is a PITA.

                What processor are you using exactly? That wold dictate which version of the BSEC you'd integrate.

                For Arduino, the library should handle the import of the .a file. If you're in any other environment you'll have to add a few lines:

                LIB_DEPS += $(USER_LIB_DIR)/libalgobsec.a
                LDFLAGS += -Wl,--whole-archive $(USER_LIB_DIR)/libalgobsec.a -Wl,--no-whole-archive
                

                I had to add these to the makefile in .particle/toolchains/deviceOS/1.2.0-beta.1/firmware-1.2.0-beta.1/modules/xenon/user-part for the Particle stuff to work.

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                  @fotofieber integrating their static library is a PITA.

                  What processor are you using exactly? That wold dictate which version of the BSEC you'd integrate.

                  For Arduino, the library should handle the import of the .a file. If you're in any other environment you'll have to add a few lines:

                  LIB_DEPS += $(USER_LIB_DIR)/libalgobsec.a
                  LDFLAGS += -Wl,--whole-archive $(USER_LIB_DIR)/libalgobsec.a -Wl,--no-whole-archive
                  

                  I had to add these to the makefile in .particle/toolchains/deviceOS/1.2.0-beta.1/firmware-1.2.0-beta.1/modules/xenon/user-part for the Particle stuff to work.

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                  @jaredwolff
                  ESP32 is the platform I use.

                  Linking is no problem (after trial and error of two hours :) ).

                  I seem to have made a call to the lib:

                  BSEC library version 1.4.7.3
                  

                  Now adding DEBUG-Messages to the BSEC arduino library.

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                  • FotoFieberF FotoFieber

                    @jaredwolff
                    ESP32 is the platform I use.

                    Linking is no problem (after trial and error of two hours :) ).

                    I seem to have made a call to the lib:

                    BSEC library version 1.4.7.3
                    

                    Now adding DEBUG-Messages to the BSEC arduino library.

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                    @fotofieber said in Particle Powered Air Quality Sensor Logging to Google Docs:

                    Linking is no problem (after trial and error of two hours ).

                    Yea it took me a bit to figure that out too. :grimacing:

                    Have you fired up the standard I2C library to see if you can talk to the BME680? Or maybe throw a logic analyzer on it to maker sure it's communicating? I'd imaging the compiler would barf if you used the wrong static library. Bosch does have an ESP32 specific one.

                    Unfortunately, I don't have any way of testing that here. Keep me posted, I'm curious as to why it's not working.

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                      @fotofieber said in Particle Powered Air Quality Sensor Logging to Google Docs:

                      Linking is no problem (after trial and error of two hours ).

                      Yea it took me a bit to figure that out too. :grimacing:

                      Have you fired up the standard I2C library to see if you can talk to the BME680? Or maybe throw a logic analyzer on it to maker sure it's communicating? I'd imaging the compiler would barf if you used the wrong static library. Bosch does have an ESP32 specific one.

                      Unfortunately, I don't have any way of testing that here. Keep me posted, I'm curious as to why it's not working.

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                      @jaredwolff
                      The data is read correctly:

                      temp 1883
                      hum 54739
                      press 94317
                      gas resistance 118267
                      call bsec_do_steps(..
                      return of bsec_do_steps -2
                      

                      And -2 means:

                       BSEC_E_DOSTEPS_VALUELIMITS = -2,                /*!< Value of input (physical) sensor signal passed to bsec_do_steps() is not in the valid range */
                      

                      I wish I had the source code of the lib....

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                      • FotoFieberF FotoFieber

                        @jaredwolff
                        The data is read correctly:

                        temp 1883
                        hum 54739
                        press 94317
                        gas resistance 118267
                        call bsec_do_steps(..
                        return of bsec_do_steps -2
                        

                        And -2 means:

                         BSEC_E_DOSTEPS_VALUELIMITS = -2,                /*!< Value of input (physical) sensor signal passed to bsec_do_steps() is not in the valid range */
                        

                        I wish I had the source code of the lib....

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                        @fotofieber the library does have an error I found earlier. Divide _data.temperature by 100.0f and _data.humidity by 1000.0f. This is in BSEC.cpp

                        See below:

                        /**
                         * @brief Read data from the BME680 and process it
                         */
                        bool Bsec::readProcessData(int64_t currTimeNs, bsec_bme_settings_t bme680Settings)
                        {
                        	bme680Status = bme680_get_sensor_data(&_data, &_bme680);
                        	if (bme680Status != BME680_OK) {
                        		return false;
                        	}
                        
                        	bsec_input_t inputs[BSEC_MAX_PHYSICAL_SENSOR]; // Temp, Pres, Hum & Gas
                        	uint8_t nInputs = 0, nOutputs = 0;
                        
                        	if (_data.status & BME680_NEW_DATA_MSK) {
                        		if (bme680Settings.process_data & BSEC_PROCESS_TEMPERATURE) {
                        			inputs[nInputs].sensor_id = BSEC_INPUT_TEMPERATURE;
                        			inputs[nInputs].signal = _data.temperature/100.0f; // Need to divide by 100 for fp
                        			inputs[nInputs].time_stamp = currTimeNs;
                        			nInputs++;
                        			/* Temperature offset from the real temperature due to external heat sources */
                        			inputs[nInputs].sensor_id = BSEC_INPUT_HEATSOURCE;
                        			inputs[nInputs].signal = _tempOffset;
                        			inputs[nInputs].time_stamp = currTimeNs;
                        			nInputs++;
                        		}
                        		if (bme680Settings.process_data & BSEC_PROCESS_HUMIDITY) {
                        			inputs[nInputs].sensor_id = BSEC_INPUT_HUMIDITY;
                        			inputs[nInputs].signal = _data.humidity/1000.0f; // Need to divide by 1000 for fp;
                        			inputs[nInputs].time_stamp = currTimeNs;
                        			nInputs++;
                        		}
                        		if (bme680Settings.process_data & BSEC_PROCESS_PRESSURE) {
                        			inputs[nInputs].sensor_id = BSEC_INPUT_PRESSURE;
                        			inputs[nInputs].signal = _data.pressure;
                        			inputs[nInputs].time_stamp = currTimeNs;
                        			nInputs++;
                        		}
                        		if (bme680Settings.process_data & BSEC_PROCESS_GAS) {
                        			inputs[nInputs].sensor_id = BSEC_INPUT_GASRESISTOR;
                        			inputs[nInputs].signal = _data.gas_resistance;
                        			inputs[nInputs].time_stamp = currTimeNs;
                        			nInputs++;
                        		}
                        	}
                        
                        
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                          @jaredwolff said in Particle Powered Air Quality Sensor Logging to Google Docs:

                          ...
                          inputs[nInputs].signal = _data.humidity/1000.0f; // Need to divide by 1000 for fp;
                          ...

                          WTF, they have a known bug in the library and we all have to discover it by ourselves?....

                          How cool is that, you seem to have solved the problem I had.... :)

                          BSEC library version 1.4.7.3
                          Timestamp [ms], raw temperature [°C], pressure [hPa], raw relative humidity [%], gas [Ohm], IAQ, IAQ accuracy, temperature [°C], relative humidity [%], Static IAQ, CO2 equivalent, breath VOC equivalent
                          End setup()
                          279, 21.37, 94698.00, 57.66, 80982.00, 25.00, 0, 21.37, 57.66, 25.00, 500.00, 0.50
                          3278, 21.21, 94700.00, 57.42, 111997.00, 25.00, 0, 21.15, 58.10, 25.00, 500.00, 0.50
                          6278, 21.22, 94700.00, 57.25, 127972.00, 25.00, 0, 21.16, 57.80, 25.00, 500.00, 0.50
                          9278, 21.22, 94702.00, 57.10, 135341.00, 25.00, 0, 21.16, 57.58, 25.00, 500.00, 0.50
                          

                          I hope I will have a graph in two days and I can compare the Bosch sensor to the NIDIR-Sensors...

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                            @jaredwolff said in Particle Powered Air Quality Sensor Logging to Google Docs:

                            ...
                            inputs[nInputs].signal = _data.humidity/1000.0f; // Need to divide by 1000 for fp;
                            ...

                            WTF, they have a known bug in the library and we all have to discover it by ourselves?....

                            How cool is that, you seem to have solved the problem I had.... :)

                            BSEC library version 1.4.7.3
                            Timestamp [ms], raw temperature [°C], pressure [hPa], raw relative humidity [%], gas [Ohm], IAQ, IAQ accuracy, temperature [°C], relative humidity [%], Static IAQ, CO2 equivalent, breath VOC equivalent
                            End setup()
                            279, 21.37, 94698.00, 57.66, 80982.00, 25.00, 0, 21.37, 57.66, 25.00, 500.00, 0.50
                            3278, 21.21, 94700.00, 57.42, 111997.00, 25.00, 0, 21.15, 58.10, 25.00, 500.00, 0.50
                            6278, 21.22, 94700.00, 57.25, 127972.00, 25.00, 0, 21.16, 57.80, 25.00, 500.00, 0.50
                            9278, 21.22, 94702.00, 57.10, 135341.00, 25.00, 0, 21.16, 57.58, 25.00, 500.00, 0.50
                            

                            I hope I will have a graph in two days and I can compare the Bosch sensor to the NIDIR-Sensors...

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                            @fotofieber I'm not sure they know.. haha I should tell them.

                            Good luck and let me know how it goes!

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                              #53

                              They know about it. They keep their library up to date on Github:

                              Here's the diff:

                              https://github.com/BoschSensortec/BSEC-Arduino-library/commit/e9a10fe23739bb95650d2ab89ed37764a4ba3caf

                              Here's the library link:

                              https://github.com/BoschSensortec/BSEC-Arduino-library

                              You probably downloaded it from the website just like I did.

                              I'll have to update my repo and point it to this as a submodule.

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                                They know about it. They keep their library up to date on Github:

                                Here's the diff:

                                https://github.com/BoschSensortec/BSEC-Arduino-library/commit/e9a10fe23739bb95650d2ab89ed37764a4ba3caf

                                Here's the library link:

                                https://github.com/BoschSensortec/BSEC-Arduino-library

                                You probably downloaded it from the website just like I did.

                                I'll have to update my repo and point it to this as a submodule.

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                                @jaredwolff
                                I downloaded the binaries from the Bosch site and the source library from the github repo.

                                In the binaries archive is an arduino library with an example with the error, you found.... The github repo has no binaries and I couldn't get it up with the binary.

                                The binary distribution of essential code makes it more complicated than it could be...

                                The integration in platformio is not to complicated in my code. I only had to add (after investigating for some hours)

                                build_flags =   -Llib/BSEC/src/esp32/
                                                -lalgobsec
                                
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                                  @FotoFieber how goes the testing?

                                  The BME680 and the SGP30 both correlate in their readings with temperature. This means when the temperature goes up and down, i've seen the TVOC reading go up and down as well. Hardly useful for a sensor that is supposed to tell you if your air is bad or not.

                                  Take a look at the screenshot below:

                                  0_1560869706305_image.png

                                  You can see that both sensors react wildly to temperature. Whereas the CCS811 has a bump but not significantly. If I go by the scales in the data sheets for the BME680 and SGP30, the room that these sensors are in require immediate venting.

                                  Even right now, the SGP30 sensor is half way to the danger zone. 😵

                                  Danger zone!

                                  0_1560869685735_image.png

                                  While testing that, I also threw everything together into an enclosure. Even added GPS:

                                  0_1560869778746_image.png

                                  So it sits up in the kitchen and chirps at me when I burn my food. I switch on my air purifier and the particulate level goes down pretty quick!

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                                    @FotoFieber how goes the testing?

                                    The BME680 and the SGP30 both correlate in their readings with temperature. This means when the temperature goes up and down, i've seen the TVOC reading go up and down as well. Hardly useful for a sensor that is supposed to tell you if your air is bad or not.

                                    Take a look at the screenshot below:

                                    0_1560869706305_image.png

                                    You can see that both sensors react wildly to temperature. Whereas the CCS811 has a bump but not significantly. If I go by the scales in the data sheets for the BME680 and SGP30, the room that these sensors are in require immediate venting.

                                    Even right now, the SGP30 sensor is half way to the danger zone. 😵

                                    Danger zone!

                                    0_1560869685735_image.png

                                    While testing that, I also threw everything together into an enclosure. Even added GPS:

                                    0_1560869778746_image.png

                                    So it sits up in the kitchen and chirps at me when I burn my food. I switch on my air purifier and the particulate level goes down pretty quick!

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                                    Thank you for the feedback @jaredwolff, that is very useful.
                                    Do you confirm that you use the BSEC library for the BME680 and not direct values from the sensor ?

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                                      Thank you for the feedback @jaredwolff, that is very useful.
                                      Do you confirm that you use the BSEC library for the BME680 and not direct values from the sensor ?

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                                      @nca78 I am using the BSEC library. I’m using the compensated humidity and temperature so I’m sure if that. I may have to take a second look at the code for both sensors. I may have mucked something up!

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                                        @FotoFieber how goes the testing?

                                        The BME680 and the SGP30 both correlate in their readings with temperature. This means when the temperature goes up and down, i've seen the TVOC reading go up and down as well. Hardly useful for a sensor that is supposed to tell you if your air is bad or not.

                                        Take a look at the screenshot below:

                                        0_1560869706305_image.png

                                        You can see that both sensors react wildly to temperature. Whereas the CCS811 has a bump but not significantly. If I go by the scales in the data sheets for the BME680 and SGP30, the room that these sensors are in require immediate venting.

                                        Even right now, the SGP30 sensor is half way to the danger zone. 😵

                                        Danger zone!

                                        0_1560869685735_image.png

                                        While testing that, I also threw everything together into an enclosure. Even added GPS:

                                        0_1560869778746_image.png

                                        So it sits up in the kitchen and chirps at me when I burn my food. I switch on my air purifier and the particulate level goes down pretty quick!

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                                        @jaredwolff
                                        My experiments with VOC sensors were all not satisfactory.

                                        The NDIR-sensors reported more or less the same as the netatmo devices and I will therefore stick with them. Apart from that, using the NDIR-sensors in arduino is much easier and you don't have to store baselines or link precompiled code.

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                                          @jaredwolff
                                          My experiments with VOC sensors were all not satisfactory.

                                          The NDIR-sensors reported more or less the same as the netatmo devices and I will therefore stick with them. Apart from that, using the NDIR-sensors in arduino is much easier and you don't have to store baselines or link precompiled code.

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                                          @fotofieber said in Particle Powered Air Quality Sensor Logging to Google Docs:

                                          @jaredwolff
                                          My experiments with VOC sensors were all not satisfactory.

                                          The NDIR-sensors reported more or less the same as the netatmo devices and I will therefore stick with them. Apart from that, using the NDIR-sensors in arduino is much easier and you don't have to store baselines or link precompiled code.

                                          Of course sensors measuring CO2 will give better results than sensors trying to guess the CO2 levels by measuring something else.
                                          But the power consumption is way too high, my hope was to be able to have a battery (li-ion) powered sensor able to run the BME680 in low power settings for a few months and just use it as a warning on when you need to ventilate a room. Unfortunately it seems to not even be fit for this limited use case :(

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