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  • SparkmanS Offline
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    Sparkman
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    wrote on last edited by Sparkman
    #242

    Finally got around to hooking one of these up last night. I soldered in the socket for the radio and the wires for my battery pack and uploaded the latest version of the sketch by just holding the FTDI connections in place. The sensor is working great. Thanks to @hek and @tbowmo for making it available!

    I'm capturing the data including battery percentage to track how long it will last. One thing is that the battery percentage is jumping around quite a bit. It started at around 93%, dropped below 90, jumped backup to 95, etc. so I'll need to do some investigation as to why. This is happening with brand-new Duracell copper-top batteries. Also, for any future enhancements to the board, I would love to see a couple of mounting holes.

    Sensebender.PNG

    Cheers
    Al

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    • SparkmanS Sparkman

      Finally got around to hooking one of these up last night. I soldered in the socket for the radio and the wires for my battery pack and uploaded the latest version of the sketch by just holding the FTDI connections in place. The sensor is working great. Thanks to @hek and @tbowmo for making it available!

      I'm capturing the data including battery percentage to track how long it will last. One thing is that the battery percentage is jumping around quite a bit. It started at around 93%, dropped below 90, jumped backup to 95, etc. so I'll need to do some investigation as to why. This is happening with brand-new Duracell copper-top batteries. Also, for any future enhancements to the board, I would love to see a couple of mounting holes.

      Sensebender.PNG

      Cheers
      Al

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      RJ_Make
      Hero Member
      wrote on last edited by
      #243

      @Sparkman
      I wounder if that is being caused by the loading of the battery and the moment the battery info is being calculated......

      RJ_Make

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      • RJ_MakeR RJ_Make

        @Sparkman
        I wounder if that is being caused by the loading of the battery and the moment the battery info is being calculated......

        SparkmanS Offline
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        Sparkman
        Hero Member
        wrote on last edited by
        #244

        @ServiceXp Good point. Maybe for the low values it's transmitting the temp/humidity when it's calculating the battery level. I'll take a look at the sketch to see if that could be the case.

        Cheers
        Al

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        • G Offline
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          gloob
          wrote on last edited by gloob
          #245

          Hello

          I found an error in the sensebender micro sketch in the latest release.

          The calculation of the temperature change is wrong.

          float diffTemp = abs(lastTemperature - (isMetric ? data.celsiusHundredths : data.fahrenheitHundredths) / 100);
          

          needs to be replaced with

          float diffTemp = abs(lastTemperature - (isMetric ? data.celsiusHundredths : data.fahrenheitHundredths) / 100.0);
          

          The division with 100 needs to be 100.0 otherwise the result will be an integer instead of a float value and the difference will be the decimal places of the last temperature.

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          • AnticimexA Offline
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            wrote on last edited by
            #246

            This should work as well and might be more clear:

            float diffTemp = abs(lastTemperature - (isMetric ? data.celsiusHundredths : data.fahrenheitHundredths) / 100f);
            

            But I guess it is a matter of taste :)

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            • Stephan NollerS Offline
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              wrote on last edited by
              #247

              Hi guys,
              amazing board! But i have a question: The Arduino IDE offerst two options as destination - 8MHz and 1MHz. Which one should i chose? My board seems to work in general, but not very realiable...

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              • Stephan NollerS Stephan Noller

                Hi guys,
                amazing board! But i have a question: The Arduino IDE offerst two options as destination - 8MHz and 1MHz. Which one should i chose? My board seems to work in general, but not very realiable...

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                Sparkman
                Hero Member
                wrote on last edited by
                #248

                @Stephan-Noller Out of the box, I had to use the 8MHz option to upload the sketch to it.

                Cheers
                Al

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                • tbowmoT Offline
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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #249

                  The sensebender is set up to run at 8Mhz. There is an option to build it for 1Mhz, but you have to switch the prescaler yourself in your sketch.

                  However I think the current consumption saved by running on 1Mhz vs 8Mhz is very limited on the sensebender, as the oscillator is shut down the majority of time (when we are sleeping the MCU).
                  . I have not made any measurements on this yet (busy with a 1000 of other projects)

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                  • RJ_MakeR RJ_Make

                    @Sparkman
                    I wounder if that is being caused by the loading of the battery and the moment the battery info is being calculated......

                    SparkmanS Offline
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                    Sparkman
                    Hero Member
                    wrote on last edited by Sparkman
                    #250

                    @ServiceXp Your hunch was correct. I built another Sensebender that only transmitted battery levels, and it's battery levels did not vary at all:

                    sb1.PNG

                    I then modified the sketch to put a short wait after the temp & humidity are sent to allow the voltage level to recover and the battery levels do not fluctuate so far. However, I'm thinking it would be better to always measure right after a transmit, but not sure if that's easy to do.

                    Cheers
                    Al

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                    • SparkmanS Sparkman

                      @ServiceXp Your hunch was correct. I built another Sensebender that only transmitted battery levels, and it's battery levels did not vary at all:

                      sb1.PNG

                      I then modified the sketch to put a short wait after the temp & humidity are sent to allow the voltage level to recover and the battery levels do not fluctuate so far. However, I'm thinking it would be better to always measure right after a transmit, but not sure if that's easy to do.

                      Cheers
                      Al

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                      RJ_Make
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                      wrote on last edited by
                      #251

                      @Sparkman Thanks for the follow up.

                      RJ_Make

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                      • epierreE epierre

                        @hek

                        I started it plugged to a vinduino like schema, so I had this :

                        Sensebender Micro FW 1.2 - TestMode
                        Testing peripherals!
                        -> SI7021 : ok!
                        -> Flash : failed!
                        -> SHA204 : Ok (serial : 01232F36E159E8ADEE)
                        Test finished
                        ----> Selftest failed!
                        

                        I read your posts, replaces 1.4.1 libs by 1.5, reflashed it with the demo code and here is what I have:

                        Sensebender Micro FW 1.2radio init fail
                        

                        is that because I don't have a 1.5 serial gateway ?

                        I have the socket and the FTDI on the same side so I may avoid the above ?

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                        epierre
                        Hero Member
                        wrote on last edited by epierre
                        #252

                        @hek can anyone help me, no unit is functionnal so far...

                        @epierre said:

                        @hek

                        I started it plugged to a vinduino like schema, so I had this :

                        Sensebender Micro FW 1.2 - TestMode
                        Testing peripherals!
                        -> SI7021 : ok!
                        -> Flash : failed!
                        -> SHA204 : Ok (serial : 01232F36E159E8ADEE)
                        Test finished
                        ----> Selftest failed!
                        

                        I read your posts, replaces 1.4.1 libs by 1.5, reflashed it with the demo code and here is what I have:

                        Sensebender Micro FW 1.2radio init fail
                        

                        is that because I don't have a 1.5 serial gateway ?

                        I have the socket and the FTDI on the same side so I may avoid the above ?

                        z-wave - Vera -> Domoticz
                        rfx - Domoticz <- MyDomoAtHome <- Imperihome
                        mysensors -> mysensors-gw -> Domoticz

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                        • hekH Offline
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                          hek
                          Admin
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #253

                          @epierre said:

                          is that because I don't have a 1.5 serial gateway ?

                          Gateway version shouldn't matter if you get this message at startup of node.

                          I have the socket and the FTDI on the same side so I may avoid the above ?

                          I don't understand what you mean.

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                          • hekH hek

                            @epierre said:

                            is that because I don't have a 1.5 serial gateway ?

                            Gateway version shouldn't matter if you get this message at startup of node.

                            I have the socket and the FTDI on the same side so I may avoid the above ?

                            I don't understand what you mean.

                            epierreE Offline
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                            epierre
                            Hero Member
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #254

                            @hek said:

                            @epierre said:

                            is that because I don't have a 1.5 serial gateway ?

                            Gateway version shouldn't matter if you get this message at startup of node.

                            what should I do from there ?

                            I have the socket and the FTDI on the same side so I may avoid the above ?

                            I don't understand what you mean.

                            this was related to the electric perturbation with headers close to the radio

                            z-wave - Vera -> Domoticz
                            rfx - Domoticz <- MyDomoAtHome <- Imperihome
                            mysensors -> mysensors-gw -> Domoticz

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                            • epierreE epierre

                              @hek said:

                              @epierre said:

                              is that because I don't have a 1.5 serial gateway ?

                              Gateway version shouldn't matter if you get this message at startup of node.

                              what should I do from there ?

                              I have the socket and the FTDI on the same side so I may avoid the above ?

                              I don't understand what you mean.

                              this was related to the electric perturbation with headers close to the radio

                              SparkmanS Offline
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                              Sparkman
                              Hero Member
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #255

                              @epierre Can you confirm the settings you used in the IDE to program it? Are you sure there are no solder bridges where you soldered the radio or socket for the radio? Have you tried powering it with a couple of AA batteries after you uploaded the sketch?

                              Cheers
                              Al

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                              • HeinzH Offline
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                                Heinz
                                Hero Member
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #256

                                Today I integrated my first 2 sensebender micros into my homeautomation and they almost worked out of the box. I like this board really much! Good work, I will order more!

                                Pitfall:
                                When updating the mysensors lib from 1.4.x to 1.5 the sensor failed to get an id from the controller which btw was still running on 1.4.x.
                                After having done all the things like "clearing eeprom", "soldering a capacitor to the radio" and so on... I noticed that I changed the RF_CHANNEL from the default 76 to some other value in MyConfig.h some months ago (probably for some paranoia reason).
                                When updating to lib 1.5 the sensor sketch got the 76 while the gateway still used the other one and so the communication between both failed. After changing the radio channel to the one the controller uses, everything worked very quickly!

                                Probably this post helps someother guy who fell into the same trap.

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                                • J Offline
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                                  johnr
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #257

                                  Hi,

                                  My sense bender works perfect when sending directly data directly to serial gateway (vera 5), however when I move it out of range to the serial gateway and want it to connect to my repeater node it does not want to discover the repeater node. Anyone else had this problem?

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                                  • hekH Offline
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                                    hek
                                    Admin
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #258

                                    Remember that it takes a few ( ~5) failed transmits until it searches for a new parent node.

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                                    • J johnr

                                      Hi,

                                      My sense bender works perfect when sending directly data directly to serial gateway (vera 5), however when I move it out of range to the serial gateway and want it to connect to my repeater node it does not want to discover the repeater node. Anyone else had this problem?

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                                      Dwalt
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #259

                                      @johnr

                                      Is your repeater node still on MySensors 1.4? I had a similar problem and upgrading to 1.5 solved it.

                                      Veralite UI5 :: IBoard Ethernet GW :: MyS 1.5

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                                      • J Offline
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                                        johnr
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #260

                                        You are probably right. I did not realise sense bender was pre loaded with 1.5

                                        I think easiest for me would be to downgrade sense bender to 1.4 is it possible?

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                                        • tbowmoT Offline
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                                          tbowmo
                                          Admin
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #261

                                          Sensebender is still on 1.4, as we haven't prepared new firmware for it yet.

                                          Mysensors 1.4 and 1.5 should be compatible with each other, right @hek ?

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