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Battery Sensor with stepup and on/off transistor

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  • n3roN n3ro

    @ht81 Hey, the NRF is directly connected to the battery. only the DHT use the stepup.

    i use this stepup: http://www.banggood.com/2Pcs-500mA-DC-DC-1V-5V-Converter-Step-Up-Module-Power-Module-p-945167.html

    Just put a transistor in front of the stepup. this is all :)

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    @n3ro Why would you need a step up for DHT, I am running DHT11 on 3.3v and it work fine.

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    • Suresh MaliS Suresh Mali

      @n3ro Why would you need a step up for DHT, I am running DHT11 on 3.3v and it work fine.

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      #25

      @Suresh-Mali My sensor node is powered with two AAA Batts. Over the time the voltage drops down to 1,9v.

      The DHT only works with ~3v. so i need the stepup only to power the dht

      i use this setup with my multisensor nodes.
      http://forum.mysensors.org/topic/1514/multisensor_pir_dht_ldr_battery/3

      Without transistor the battery is drained in ~2 month (black line)
      with transistors in ~10 month

      drain.PNG

      pimatic + MySensors + Homeduino + z-way
      https://github.com/n3roGit/MySensors_n3ro

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      • n3roN n3ro

        @Suresh-Mali My sensor node is powered with two AAA Batts. Over the time the voltage drops down to 1,9v.

        The DHT only works with ~3v. so i need the stepup only to power the dht

        i use this setup with my multisensor nodes.
        http://forum.mysensors.org/topic/1514/multisensor_pir_dht_ldr_battery/3

        Without transistor the battery is drained in ~2 month (black line)
        with transistors in ~10 month

        drain.PNG

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        @n3ro Gr8, makes sense.:+1:

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          Hey togehter,

          is a battery drain graph like this normal with alkaline batteries?

          mysensors_batt.PNG

          regards,
          n3ro

          pimatic + MySensors + Homeduino + z-way
          https://github.com/n3roGit/MySensors_n3ro

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          • n3roN n3ro

            Hey togehter,

            is a battery drain graph like this normal with alkaline batteries?

            mysensors_batt.PNG

            regards,
            n3ro

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            #28

            @n3ro said:

            is a battery drain graph like this normal with alkaline batteries?

            If you mean the sudden drop at the end, the answer is yes. This is called a S curve because it looks like a (very stretched) S. That's the typical behavior of most batteries.

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              #29

              The fact that you drain the battery in less then 2 months is probably due to the presence detection. I'm assumung this is using passive IR and is always on ? As mentioned by @mfalkvidd the shape is normal.
              I use the breakout for SI7021 from Aliexpress and these use very little current. Also, there is no need for a step up, as this sensor works down to 1.8V. For light detection I use a LDR and 1MOhm resistor combination connected to a digital pin for power and analog pin for measuring. Works nicely because I let it settle (I first call the SI7021 to get the temperature and check the battery voltage, then I measure the analog value of the LDR. I only need relative values for light, so LDR is more then accurate enough for me.

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              • GertSandersG GertSanders

                The fact that you drain the battery in less then 2 months is probably due to the presence detection. I'm assumung this is using passive IR and is always on ? As mentioned by @mfalkvidd the shape is normal.
                I use the breakout for SI7021 from Aliexpress and these use very little current. Also, there is no need for a step up, as this sensor works down to 1.8V. For light detection I use a LDR and 1MOhm resistor combination connected to a digital pin for power and analog pin for measuring. Works nicely because I let it settle (I first call the SI7021 to get the temperature and check the battery voltage, then I measure the analog value of the LDR. I only need relative values for light, so LDR is more then accurate enough for me.

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                @GertSanders
                thx :)

                I have just ordered some SI7021 for testing.

                My Pir sensors are these ones:
                http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B008EGH3FM

                50 Mikroampere

                i dont know if this is aktive or passiv :-/

                regards,
                n3ro

                pimatic + MySensors + Homeduino + z-way
                https://github.com/n3roGit/MySensors_n3ro

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                  #31

                  It's a passive IR module, and using 50uA, which is about 5 times the average consumption of my temperature/humidity sensors (between 8 and 11 uA depending on the amount of message resends needed).

                  The nice thing about the module you use is the low voltage it needs to work (0.8V <-> 9V).

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                  • GertSandersG GertSanders

                    It's a passive IR module, and using 50uA, which is about 5 times the average consumption of my temperature/humidity sensors (between 8 and 11 uA depending on the amount of message resends needed).

                    The nice thing about the module you use is the low voltage it needs to work (0.8V <-> 9V).

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                    @GertSanders said:

                    (0.8V <-> 9V)

                    Yes. I had a few problems with the 5v PIRs. That's why I ordered this.

                    pimatic + MySensors + Homeduino + z-way
                    https://github.com/n3roGit/MySensors_n3ro

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                    • n3roN n3ro

                      @GertSanders said:

                      (0.8V <-> 9V)

                      Yes. I had a few problems with the 5v PIRs. That's why I ordered this.

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                      @n3ro Couldn't you power the step-up from one of the arduino's digital pins? Then set the pin to HIGH/LOW to power the sensor on/off?
                      Maybe it draws too much power?

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