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  • epierreE Offline
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    @tantt2810 as explained above, if the datasheet has a logarithmic scale, you can use the power regression to approximate the curve. One tool for example to do this calculus:http://www.xuru.org/rt/powr.asp

    for a sensor discussed above I read this on the datasheet:
    H2
    1.3 50
    0.8 100
    0.28 400
    0.16 1000
    0.05 4000

    The xuru website gives me this:

    y = 73.59123879 x-1.355617483
    Residual Sum of Squares: rss = 87393.44418

    and thus I have::
    H2Curve[3] = {73.5912, -1.355617};

    z-wave - Vera -> Domoticz
    rfx - Domoticz <- MyDomoAtHome <- Imperihome
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    • epierreE epierre

      @tantt2810 as explained above, if the datasheet has a logarithmic scale, you can use the power regression to approximate the curve. One tool for example to do this calculus:http://www.xuru.org/rt/powr.asp

      for a sensor discussed above I read this on the datasheet:
      H2
      1.3 50
      0.8 100
      0.28 400
      0.16 1000
      0.05 4000

      The xuru website gives me this:

      y = 73.59123879 x-1.355617483
      Residual Sum of Squares: rss = 87393.44418

      and thus I have::
      H2Curve[3] = {73.5912, -1.355617};

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      wrote on last edited by
      #147

      @epierre Thank you so much !!!
      Have a nice day =)) !!!

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      • epierreE epierre

        So tonight with these new formulae, I updated my mega sketch to get :

         MQ2    :LPG   :0ppm    CO    :0ppm    SMOKE :0ppm
         MQ6    :LPG   :0ppm    CH4   :0ppm
         MQ131  :CL2   :1ppm    O3    :1ppm
         TGS2600:H2    :0ppm    C2H5OH:0ppm    C4H10 :0ppm
        

        Going through the "clean air calibation" I have:

        float MQResistanceCalculation(int raw_adc)    {
          return ( ((float)RL_VALUE*(1023-raw_adc)/raw_adc));
        }
        

        Here are the readings without:

        MQ2:5.28
        MQ6:36.94
        MQ131:3.61
        TGS2600:0.04
        

        and with all is 0... BTW...

        What do you think of that ? nothing indicated that MQ6 should be so big, and tgs so low... same for MQ131 that should be 100k-200k per datasheet....

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        #148

        @epierre

        hi

        i am new here.

        sorry i am a little confused by with these new formulate.

        is it the key for module?

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        • tantt2810T Offline
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          wrote on last edited by
          #149

          Hello,
          I'm don't understand the recipe below. Why RL_Value(Load Resistance)(1023-raw_adc)/raw_adc)? Can you explain for me?
          Thank you so much !!!
          /
          ***************** MQResistanceCalculation ****************************************
          Input: raw_adc - raw value read from adc, which represents the voltage
          Output: the calculated sensor resistance
          Remarks: The sensor and the load resistor forms a voltage divider. Given the voltage
          across the load resistor and its resistance, the resistance of the sensor
          could be derived.
          ***********************************************************************************/
          float MQ2::MQResistanceCalculation(int raw_adc)
          {
          return ( ((float)RL_VALUE
          (1023-raw_adc)/raw_adc));
          }

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          • jenbakerJ jenbaker

            @epierre

            hi

            i am new here.

            sorry i am a little confused by with these new formulate.

            is it the key for module?

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            epierre
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            wrote on last edited by
            #150

            @jenbaker said:

            sorry i am a little confused by with these new formulate.

            is it the key for module?

            if you have a module the datasheet gives you the values, yes. Remember this is their """""generic"""" calibration, in fact they all copy the other so don't expect your MQ** would follow this by the letter...

            z-wave - Vera -> Domoticz
            rfx - Domoticz <- MyDomoAtHome <- Imperihome
            mysensors -> mysensors-gw -> Domoticz

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            • tantt2810T tantt2810

              Hello,
              I'm don't understand the recipe below. Why RL_Value(Load Resistance)(1023-raw_adc)/raw_adc)? Can you explain for me?
              Thank you so much !!!
              /
              ***************** MQResistanceCalculation ****************************************
              Input: raw_adc - raw value read from adc, which represents the voltage
              Output: the calculated sensor resistance
              Remarks: The sensor and the load resistor forms a voltage divider. Given the voltage
              across the load resistor and its resistance, the resistance of the sensor
              could be derived.
              ***********************************************************************************/
              float MQ2::MQResistanceCalculation(int raw_adc)
              {
              return ( ((float)RL_VALUE
              (1023-raw_adc)/raw_adc));
              }

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              epierre
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              #151

              @tantt2810 said:

              Hello,
              I'm don't understand the recipe below. Why RL_Value(Load Resistance)(1023-raw_adc)/raw_adc)? Can you explain for me?
              Thank you so much !!!
              Input: raw_adc - raw value read from adc, which represents the voltage
              Output: the calculated sensor resistance
              Remarks: The sensor and the load resistor forms a voltage divider. Given the voltage
              across the load resistor and its resistance, the resistance of the sensor
              could be derived.
              float MQ2::MQResistanceCalculation(int raw_adc)
              RL_VALUE
              (1023-raw_adc)/raw_adc));

              in fact it is above described, you have a voltage, you want a resistance.
              https://learn.sparkfun.com/tutorials/voltage-dividers

              datasheet needs a value which is the Rs/Ro (called here RL) where
              Ro: sensor resistance at 100ppm of NH3 in the clean air.
              Rs:sensor resistance at various concentrations of gases

              here the formula is a simplification of this:

              float Vrl = val * ( 5.00 / 1024.0 ); // V
              float Rs = 20000 * ( 5.00 - Vrl) / Vrl ; // Ohm
              int ratio = Rs/Ro;
              ppm = 37143 * pow (ratio, -3.178);

              z-wave - Vera -> Domoticz
              rfx - Domoticz <- MyDomoAtHome <- Imperihome
              mysensors -> mysensors-gw -> Domoticz

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              • epierreE epierre

                @tantt2810 said:

                Hello,
                I'm don't understand the recipe below. Why RL_Value(Load Resistance)(1023-raw_adc)/raw_adc)? Can you explain for me?
                Thank you so much !!!
                Input: raw_adc - raw value read from adc, which represents the voltage
                Output: the calculated sensor resistance
                Remarks: The sensor and the load resistor forms a voltage divider. Given the voltage
                across the load resistor and its resistance, the resistance of the sensor
                could be derived.
                float MQ2::MQResistanceCalculation(int raw_adc)
                RL_VALUE
                (1023-raw_adc)/raw_adc));

                in fact it is above described, you have a voltage, you want a resistance.
                https://learn.sparkfun.com/tutorials/voltage-dividers

                datasheet needs a value which is the Rs/Ro (called here RL) where
                Ro: sensor resistance at 100ppm of NH3 in the clean air.
                Rs:sensor resistance at various concentrations of gases

                here the formula is a simplification of this:

                float Vrl = val * ( 5.00 / 1024.0 ); // V
                float Rs = 20000 * ( 5.00 - Vrl) / Vrl ; // Ohm
                int ratio = Rs/Ro;
                ppm = 37143 * pow (ratio, -3.178);

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                tantt2810
                wrote on last edited by
                #152

                @epierre Hi you,
                I think the Rs/Ro is not RL. In the datasheet RL=5kOhm. As I know it is a resistance on board Arduino, and we set it 5kOhm. Is it right? I also don't know why we set it equal 5kOhm. =))
                And why 20000 is in "float Rs = 20000 * ( 5.00 - Vrl) / Vrl ; // Ohm" ?
                Please help me clearly. Thank you so much !!!

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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #153

                  Hello,
                  I have read the sensitivity characteristics curve in datasheet of MQ135 and I don't know AL R, 3/4, 1/4* and +- mean? Can you help me, please !!!
                  NH4 represent for NH3, doesn't it ?
                  Thank you so much !!!

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                    tantt2810
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #154

                    Hi everyone,
                    I have an CO2 MG811 sensor. I don't know where tcm pin connect with ?
                    Please help me. Thank you so much !!!!
                    0_1457101257425_F08406-CO2-Carbon-Dioxide-Sensor-Module-font-b-MG811-b-font-Voltage-0-2V-Voltage-Output.jpg

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                      TFPOK1
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #155

                      Hello, I'm working with an MQ-136 sensor, and am interested in measuring H2S and/or SO2 concentrations. I've got a simple sketch written which gives me a fairly consistent value on the serial monitor, but I've tried to run the multiple gas sensor sketch both complete and I also tried picking apart the sketch just to include MQ-136 related variables and algorithms, but I can't get it to work. It's showing too many errors to list here. Does anyone have simple conversions from the serial outputs to usable values for various gases that this sensor can measure?

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                      • Joel PérezJ Offline
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                        Joel Pérez
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #156

                        hello, how i read co2 ppm with my mq135?
                        helpme please

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                        • tantt2810T tantt2810

                          Hi everyone,
                          I have an CO2 MG811 sensor. I don't know where tcm pin connect with ?
                          Please help me. Thank you so much !!!!
                          0_1457101257425_F08406-CO2-Carbon-Dioxide-Sensor-Module-font-b-MG811-b-font-Voltage-0-2V-Voltage-Output.jpg

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                          epierre
                          Hero Member
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #157

                          @tantt2810 said:

                          Hi everyone,
                          I have an CO2 MG811 sensor. I don't know where tcm pin connect with ?
                          Please help me. Thank you so much !!!!

                          this is an analogic sensor, so VCC/Gnd to power it, and readings on analogic Aout

                          z-wave - Vera -> Domoticz
                          rfx - Domoticz <- MyDomoAtHome <- Imperihome
                          mysensors -> mysensors-gw -> Domoticz

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                            epierre
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                            wrote on last edited by
                            #158

                            @tantt2810 sorry for not being more responsive, I left MQ/TGS behind me but I've not kept all my notes on mesuring this and that, that would require me to search for it again. But I appreciate if you can spot me some float/type error conversion in sketches !

                            z-wave - Vera -> Domoticz
                            rfx - Domoticz <- MyDomoAtHome <- Imperihome
                            mysensors -> mysensors-gw -> Domoticz

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                              wrote on last edited by
                              #159

                              I was a bit disappointed when a project I contributed to on Kickstarter showed the inside of their boxes, I wonder how they will manage to satisfy customers with calibration... or their home made index as netatmo did
                              0_1457255421408_sensly.png

                              z-wave - Vera -> Domoticz
                              rfx - Domoticz <- MyDomoAtHome <- Imperihome
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                                wrote on last edited by
                                #160

                                Used the air quality script for MQ7 but throwed out all the conversions and calibrations. Just reading the plain input from the analogue pin.
                                I targeted this as a smoke detector but it seems this sensor highly depends on the humidity of the surrounding air. Are there any existing formulas to correct for the humidity of the surounding air?

                                And on one sensor i have some irratical data as shown below (blue). I wonder if it's a power supply (black and green is DHT) or a broken sensor?
                                alt text

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                                • M moskovskiy82

                                  Used the air quality script for MQ7 but throwed out all the conversions and calibrations. Just reading the plain input from the analogue pin.
                                  I targeted this as a smoke detector but it seems this sensor highly depends on the humidity of the surrounding air. Are there any existing formulas to correct for the humidity of the surounding air?

                                  And on one sensor i have some irratical data as shown below (blue). I wonder if it's a power supply (black and green is DHT) or a broken sensor?
                                  alt text

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                                  epierre
                                  Hero Member
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #161

                                  @moskovskiy82 well looks like a strange sensor... try averaging several samples/// always remember to have it running several days before measuring for there are chemical left from china factories...

                                  z-wave - Vera -> Domoticz
                                  rfx - Domoticz <- MyDomoAtHome <- Imperihome
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                                    wrote on last edited by mfalkvidd
                                    #162

                                    Hey all,

                                    I've got a question regarding the calibration function in https://github.com/empierre/arduino/blob/master/AirQuality-Multiple_Gas_Sensor1_4.ino :

                                    $ grep MQCalibr *
                                    AirQuality-Multiple_Gas_Sensor1_4.ino:  Ro0 = MQCalibration(MQ2_SENSOR,10,RL0,SmokeCurve);
                                    AirQuality-Multiple_Gas_Sensor1_4.ino:  Ro1 = MQCalibration(MQ6_SENSOR,10,RL1,LPGCurve);
                                    AirQuality-Multiple_Gas_Sensor1_4.ino:  Ro2 = MQCalibration(MQ131_SENSOR,10,RL2,O3Curve);
                                    AirQuality-Multiple_Gas_Sensor1_4.ino:  Ro3 = MQCalibration(TGS2600_SENSOR,10,RL3,C2H5OH_terCurve);
                                    AirQuality-Multiple_Gas_Sensor1_4.ino:  Ro4 = MQCalibration(MQ135_SENSOR,10,RL4,CO_secCurve);
                                    AirQuality-Multiple_Gas_Sensor1_4.ino:  Ro6 = MQCalibration(TGS2602_SENSOR,1,RL6,C7H8Curve);
                                    ....
                                    AirQuality-Multiple_Gas_Sensor1_4.ino:float MQCalibration(int mq_pin, double ppm, double rl_value,float *pcurve )
                                    

                                    Th function MQCalibration should calibrate the sensor in clean air, the calibration function uses the PPM concentration of the gas in a clean air environment.
                                    You already use the appropriate value for i.e. CO2 (around 399 PPM) in the MQ135 sketch - but why are you using those obscure values in the calibration (1, 10) here?

                                    Thanks in advance!

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                                      Hey all,

                                      I've got a question regarding the calibration function in https://github.com/empierre/arduino/blob/master/AirQuality-Multiple_Gas_Sensor1_4.ino :

                                      $ grep MQCalibr *
                                      AirQuality-Multiple_Gas_Sensor1_4.ino:  Ro0 = MQCalibration(MQ2_SENSOR,10,RL0,SmokeCurve);
                                      AirQuality-Multiple_Gas_Sensor1_4.ino:  Ro1 = MQCalibration(MQ6_SENSOR,10,RL1,LPGCurve);
                                      AirQuality-Multiple_Gas_Sensor1_4.ino:  Ro2 = MQCalibration(MQ131_SENSOR,10,RL2,O3Curve);
                                      AirQuality-Multiple_Gas_Sensor1_4.ino:  Ro3 = MQCalibration(TGS2600_SENSOR,10,RL3,C2H5OH_terCurve);
                                      AirQuality-Multiple_Gas_Sensor1_4.ino:  Ro4 = MQCalibration(MQ135_SENSOR,10,RL4,CO_secCurve);
                                      AirQuality-Multiple_Gas_Sensor1_4.ino:  Ro6 = MQCalibration(TGS2602_SENSOR,1,RL6,C7H8Curve);
                                      ....
                                      AirQuality-Multiple_Gas_Sensor1_4.ino:float MQCalibration(int mq_pin, double ppm, double rl_value,float *pcurve )
                                      

                                      Th function MQCalibration should calibrate the sensor in clean air, the calibration function uses the PPM concentration of the gas in a clean air environment.
                                      You already use the appropriate value for i.e. CO2 (around 399 PPM) in the MQ135 sketch - but why are you using those obscure values in the calibration (1, 10) here?

                                      Thanks in advance!

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                                      @wreiner said:

                                      Th function MQCalibration should calibrate the sensor in clean air, the calibration function uses the PPM concentration of the gas in a clean air environment.
                                      You already use the appropriate value for i.e. CO2 (around 399 PPM) in the MQ135 sketch - but why are you using those obscure values in the calibration (1, 10) here?

                                      Well, I didn't know the concentration in clean air so I had to put in a value even random... I took the hypothesis there are very few in the air so low value.

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                                      • epierreE epierre

                                        @tantt2810 said:

                                        Hi everyone,
                                        I have an CO2 MG811 sensor. I don't know where tcm pin connect with ?
                                        Please help me. Thank you so much !!!!

                                        this is an analogic sensor, so VCC/Gnd to power it, and readings on analogic Aout

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                                        @epierre
                                        Thank you. Your mean is Vcc->5V, GND->GND, Dout->Digital pin, Aout->Analog pin. Is it right?
                                        But I don't know the tcm pin connect with ? I have read datasheet but I don't find any info about tcm pin. Please help me. Thank you so much !!!

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                                          #165

                                          @epierre

                                          Readings of my MQ135 are going up and down like a yo-yo. Not sure how to read them really?
                                          What do you think?

                                          0_1457656109114_Screenshot (18).png

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