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  • TFPOK1T Offline
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    TFPOK1
    wrote on last edited by
    #155

    Hello, I'm working with an MQ-136 sensor, and am interested in measuring H2S and/or SO2 concentrations. I've got a simple sketch written which gives me a fairly consistent value on the serial monitor, but I've tried to run the multiple gas sensor sketch both complete and I also tried picking apart the sketch just to include MQ-136 related variables and algorithms, but I can't get it to work. It's showing too many errors to list here. Does anyone have simple conversions from the serial outputs to usable values for various gases that this sensor can measure?

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    • Joel PérezJ Offline
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      #156

      hello, how i read co2 ppm with my mq135?
      helpme please

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      • tantt2810T tantt2810

        Hi everyone,
        I have an CO2 MG811 sensor. I don't know where tcm pin connect with ?
        Please help me. Thank you so much !!!!
        0_1457101257425_F08406-CO2-Carbon-Dioxide-Sensor-Module-font-b-MG811-b-font-Voltage-0-2V-Voltage-Output.jpg

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        epierre
        Hero Member
        wrote on last edited by
        #157

        @tantt2810 said:

        Hi everyone,
        I have an CO2 MG811 sensor. I don't know where tcm pin connect with ?
        Please help me. Thank you so much !!!!

        this is an analogic sensor, so VCC/Gnd to power it, and readings on analogic Aout

        z-wave - Vera -> Domoticz
        rfx - Domoticz <- MyDomoAtHome <- Imperihome
        mysensors -> mysensors-gw -> Domoticz

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        • epierreE Offline
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          epierre
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          wrote on last edited by
          #158

          @tantt2810 sorry for not being more responsive, I left MQ/TGS behind me but I've not kept all my notes on mesuring this and that, that would require me to search for it again. But I appreciate if you can spot me some float/type error conversion in sketches !

          z-wave - Vera -> Domoticz
          rfx - Domoticz <- MyDomoAtHome <- Imperihome
          mysensors -> mysensors-gw -> Domoticz

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          • epierreE Offline
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            epierre
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            wrote on last edited by
            #159

            I was a bit disappointed when a project I contributed to on Kickstarter showed the inside of their boxes, I wonder how they will manage to satisfy customers with calibration... or their home made index as netatmo did
            0_1457255421408_sensly.png

            z-wave - Vera -> Domoticz
            rfx - Domoticz <- MyDomoAtHome <- Imperihome
            mysensors -> mysensors-gw -> Domoticz

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              moskovskiy82
              wrote on last edited by
              #160

              Used the air quality script for MQ7 but throwed out all the conversions and calibrations. Just reading the plain input from the analogue pin.
              I targeted this as a smoke detector but it seems this sensor highly depends on the humidity of the surrounding air. Are there any existing formulas to correct for the humidity of the surounding air?

              And on one sensor i have some irratical data as shown below (blue). I wonder if it's a power supply (black and green is DHT) or a broken sensor?
              alt text

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              • M moskovskiy82

                Used the air quality script for MQ7 but throwed out all the conversions and calibrations. Just reading the plain input from the analogue pin.
                I targeted this as a smoke detector but it seems this sensor highly depends on the humidity of the surrounding air. Are there any existing formulas to correct for the humidity of the surounding air?

                And on one sensor i have some irratical data as shown below (blue). I wonder if it's a power supply (black and green is DHT) or a broken sensor?
                alt text

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                epierre
                Hero Member
                wrote on last edited by
                #161

                @moskovskiy82 well looks like a strange sensor... try averaging several samples/// always remember to have it running several days before measuring for there are chemical left from china factories...

                z-wave - Vera -> Domoticz
                rfx - Domoticz <- MyDomoAtHome <- Imperihome
                mysensors -> mysensors-gw -> Domoticz

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                • wreinerW Offline
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                  wreiner
                  wrote on last edited by mfalkvidd
                  #162

                  Hey all,

                  I've got a question regarding the calibration function in https://github.com/empierre/arduino/blob/master/AirQuality-Multiple_Gas_Sensor1_4.ino :

                  $ grep MQCalibr *
                  AirQuality-Multiple_Gas_Sensor1_4.ino:  Ro0 = MQCalibration(MQ2_SENSOR,10,RL0,SmokeCurve);
                  AirQuality-Multiple_Gas_Sensor1_4.ino:  Ro1 = MQCalibration(MQ6_SENSOR,10,RL1,LPGCurve);
                  AirQuality-Multiple_Gas_Sensor1_4.ino:  Ro2 = MQCalibration(MQ131_SENSOR,10,RL2,O3Curve);
                  AirQuality-Multiple_Gas_Sensor1_4.ino:  Ro3 = MQCalibration(TGS2600_SENSOR,10,RL3,C2H5OH_terCurve);
                  AirQuality-Multiple_Gas_Sensor1_4.ino:  Ro4 = MQCalibration(MQ135_SENSOR,10,RL4,CO_secCurve);
                  AirQuality-Multiple_Gas_Sensor1_4.ino:  Ro6 = MQCalibration(TGS2602_SENSOR,1,RL6,C7H8Curve);
                  ....
                  AirQuality-Multiple_Gas_Sensor1_4.ino:float MQCalibration(int mq_pin, double ppm, double rl_value,float *pcurve )
                  

                  Th function MQCalibration should calibrate the sensor in clean air, the calibration function uses the PPM concentration of the gas in a clean air environment.
                  You already use the appropriate value for i.e. CO2 (around 399 PPM) in the MQ135 sketch - but why are you using those obscure values in the calibration (1, 10) here?

                  Thanks in advance!

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                  • wreinerW wreiner

                    Hey all,

                    I've got a question regarding the calibration function in https://github.com/empierre/arduino/blob/master/AirQuality-Multiple_Gas_Sensor1_4.ino :

                    $ grep MQCalibr *
                    AirQuality-Multiple_Gas_Sensor1_4.ino:  Ro0 = MQCalibration(MQ2_SENSOR,10,RL0,SmokeCurve);
                    AirQuality-Multiple_Gas_Sensor1_4.ino:  Ro1 = MQCalibration(MQ6_SENSOR,10,RL1,LPGCurve);
                    AirQuality-Multiple_Gas_Sensor1_4.ino:  Ro2 = MQCalibration(MQ131_SENSOR,10,RL2,O3Curve);
                    AirQuality-Multiple_Gas_Sensor1_4.ino:  Ro3 = MQCalibration(TGS2600_SENSOR,10,RL3,C2H5OH_terCurve);
                    AirQuality-Multiple_Gas_Sensor1_4.ino:  Ro4 = MQCalibration(MQ135_SENSOR,10,RL4,CO_secCurve);
                    AirQuality-Multiple_Gas_Sensor1_4.ino:  Ro6 = MQCalibration(TGS2602_SENSOR,1,RL6,C7H8Curve);
                    ....
                    AirQuality-Multiple_Gas_Sensor1_4.ino:float MQCalibration(int mq_pin, double ppm, double rl_value,float *pcurve )
                    

                    Th function MQCalibration should calibrate the sensor in clean air, the calibration function uses the PPM concentration of the gas in a clean air environment.
                    You already use the appropriate value for i.e. CO2 (around 399 PPM) in the MQ135 sketch - but why are you using those obscure values in the calibration (1, 10) here?

                    Thanks in advance!

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                    epierre
                    Hero Member
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #163

                    @wreiner said:

                    Th function MQCalibration should calibrate the sensor in clean air, the calibration function uses the PPM concentration of the gas in a clean air environment.
                    You already use the appropriate value for i.e. CO2 (around 399 PPM) in the MQ135 sketch - but why are you using those obscure values in the calibration (1, 10) here?

                    Well, I didn't know the concentration in clean air so I had to put in a value even random... I took the hypothesis there are very few in the air so low value.

                    z-wave - Vera -> Domoticz
                    rfx - Domoticz <- MyDomoAtHome <- Imperihome
                    mysensors -> mysensors-gw -> Domoticz

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                    • epierreE epierre

                      @tantt2810 said:

                      Hi everyone,
                      I have an CO2 MG811 sensor. I don't know where tcm pin connect with ?
                      Please help me. Thank you so much !!!!

                      this is an analogic sensor, so VCC/Gnd to power it, and readings on analogic Aout

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                      tantt2810
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #164

                      @epierre
                      Thank you. Your mean is Vcc->5V, GND->GND, Dout->Digital pin, Aout->Analog pin. Is it right?
                      But I don't know the tcm pin connect with ? I have read datasheet but I don't find any info about tcm pin. Please help me. Thank you so much !!!

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                      • alexsh1A Offline
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                        alexsh1
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #165

                        @epierre

                        Readings of my MQ135 are going up and down like a yo-yo. Not sure how to read them really?
                        What do you think?

                        0_1457656109114_Screenshot (18).png

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                          bhavika
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #166

                          I am confused with MiCS 4514 sensor. What I had done is :

                          using MiCS quick start evaluation board, measured ADC value
                          calculated Vout and from that calculated R0.
                          Rs/R0 concentration gives me high value, which is not possible, My data is as follows
                          clean air file is used for the purpose of R0 value
                          https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8sF8a6FHoseWjhWOHRoYzIxakk/view?usp=sharing
                          and Polluted file is used to calculate the actual pollution
                          https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8sF8a6FHoseR1BnclhCUHdibEU/view?usp=sharing

                          I am confused. Please help me

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                          • tantt2810T tantt2810

                            @epierre
                            Thank you. Your mean is Vcc->5V, GND->GND, Dout->Digital pin, Aout->Analog pin. Is it right?
                            But I don't know the tcm pin connect with ? I have read datasheet but I don't find any info about tcm pin. Please help me. Thank you so much !!!

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                            epierre
                            Hero Member
                            wrote on last edited by epierre
                            #167

                            @tantt2810 said:

                            @epierre
                            Thank you. Your mean is Vcc->5V, GND->GND, Dout->Digital pin, Aout->Analog pin. Is it right?
                            But I don't know the tcm pin connect with ? I have read datasheet but I don't find any info about tcm pin. Please help me. Thank you so much !!!

                            do not use the digital pin !!! it only reacts with the potentiometer in on/off mode, so useless... you need to power the device with Vcc/Gnd, and read the output with Aout (A stands for analog). The last one forget it.

                            z-wave - Vera -> Domoticz
                            rfx - Domoticz <- MyDomoAtHome <- Imperihome
                            mysensors -> mysensors-gw -> Domoticz

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                            • alexsh1A alexsh1

                              @epierre

                              Readings of my MQ135 are going up and down like a yo-yo. Not sure how to read them really?
                              What do you think?

                              0_1457656109114_Screenshot (18).png

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                              epierre
                              Hero Member
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #168

                              @alexsh1 is that raw ADC output or with a calculation ? normaly this should go up or down but not in sucha drastic way

                              z-wave - Vera -> Domoticz
                              rfx - Domoticz <- MyDomoAtHome <- Imperihome
                              mysensors -> mysensors-gw -> Domoticz

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                              • epierreE epierre

                                @alexsh1 is that raw ADC output or with a calculation ? normaly this should go up or down but not in sucha drastic way

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                                alexsh1
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #169

                                @epierre

                                This is a value gw.send(msg.set(MQ135_DEFAULTPPM+(int)ceil(valAIQ))) reported to Domoticz.
                                It does not make any sense to me at all.

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                                • epierreE epierre

                                  @tantt2810 said:

                                  @epierre
                                  Thank you. Your mean is Vcc->5V, GND->GND, Dout->Digital pin, Aout->Analog pin. Is it right?
                                  But I don't know the tcm pin connect with ? I have read datasheet but I don't find any info about tcm pin. Please help me. Thank you so much !!!

                                  do not use the digital pin !!! it only reacts with the potentiometer in on/off mode, so useless... you need to power the device with Vcc/Gnd, and read the output with Aout (A stands for analog). The last one forget it.

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                                  tantt2810
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #170

                                  @epierre
                                  Thanks you so much !!! Good job, Good boy =)).

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                                  • alexsh1A alexsh1

                                    @epierre

                                    This is a value gw.send(msg.set(MQ135_DEFAULTPPM+(int)ceil(valAIQ))) reported to Domoticz.
                                    It does not make any sense to me at all.

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                                    epierre
                                    Hero Member
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #171

                                    @alexsh1 said:

                                    @epierre

                                    This is a value gw.send(msg.set(MQ135_DEFAULTPPM+(int)ceil(valAIQ))) reported to Domoticz.
                                    It does not make any sense to me at all.

                                    same for mle, sometime it is good to have two piece to compare their behavior... I have 3 o them ...

                                    z-wave - Vera -> Domoticz
                                    rfx - Domoticz <- MyDomoAtHome <- Imperihome
                                    mysensors -> mysensors-gw -> Domoticz

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                                      alexsh1
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #172

                                      @epierre do you think it is a faulty sensor though?

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                                        wrote on last edited by tantt2810
                                        #173

                                        Hello,

                                        Can I use pinMode(digitalpin, OUTPUT) to turn off sensor? Or Is there any way to wirte a function that turn off sensor?

                                        I want to remote it on web to turn on or off it.

                                        Thank you so much !!!

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                                          supersjimmie
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #174

                                          For those who are trying to use an MQ135 module from e-bay or other sellers, on a small pcb with a chip, LED and potmeter:
                                          It took me a while until I figured out that the little chip has a very big influence on the value that you read on the A-out pin.
                                          Only after removing the connection between the A-out pin and the little chip, I got normal measurements.

                                          I also replaced the small resistor marked "102" with a 10k resistor, to make measurements more compatible with code that uses a 10k pull down resistor. But that was already a known issue, found on many other places.

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