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  • tuimansoT Offline
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    #232

    @epierre I am attempting to apply this code to work with the MQ-8. I am trying to get rid of all of the radio and gw stuff that is in the code. Do you have anything that just calibrates the sensor and reads out the value without of all these other libraries?

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      @epierre Also, what is the purpose of #define MQ135_MAXRSRO 2.428 //for CO2
      #define MQ135_MINRSRO? I don't see them being referenced after they're defined?

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      • tuimansoT tuimanso

        @epierre Also, what is the purpose of #define MQ135_MAXRSRO 2.428 //for CO2
        #define MQ135_MINRSRO? I don't see them being referenced after they're defined?

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        @tuimanso said:

        @epierre Also, what is the purpose of #define MQ135_MAXRSRO 2.428 //for CO2
        #define MQ135_MINRSRO? I don't see them being referenced after they're defined?

        Datasheet defines min and max values they should guarantee, this is an application of it.

        if(validinterval<MQ135_MAXRSRO && validinterval>MQ135_MINRSRO) {
        

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        • tuimansoT Offline
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          #235

          Your previous message

          Hello,

          I have a question about the MQ-8 sensor module . The potentiometer that is soldered onto the board, is it to control the sensitivity of the LED light or for the sensor itself? According to the datasheet for the sensor, the RL (load resistance) for the sensor should be at minimum 10k Ohm, yet I only see an SMD 102 resistor on the board, which is a 1K Ohm resistor. I have used a multimeter to connect the 5V pin and the AOUT pin, and I get precisely a measurement of about 1K Ohm... Does that mean that I should connect a load resistor to this?

          This value seems very important since it is referenced in the code, the RL is part of the calculations, yet it is already pre-written 10K ohms...

          Please Clarify
          Thanks

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          • AtmosChemeA Offline
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            #236

            Hello everyone,

            I have a few of these sensors, but lately I have been concentrating on a MQ131 ozone sensor module from SainSmart. I am building an array utilizing MQ gas sensors and an Arduino that can be attached to a drone to measure vertical concnentration profiles of ground level ozone.

            I am using an ozone generator and a 2B Technologies Ozone Monitor for the calibration of the sensor.

            I have done the 24 hour burn in period on my sensors.
            I have warmed them up to get steady values on my serial monitor.

            The problem that I am having is that I am creating nearly 20,000 ppb O3 and the analog output is only around 25 to 30 units. It works out to around 922 ppb per unit.

            Example before ozone is added the sensor reading is steady at 41. After raising the concentration of O3 to 18,727.5 ppb the reading drops to around 17-18.

            Recently I have added a 22,000 ohm resistor in series with the analog output so that my readings start out at 971. But I am still only dropping around 20 units to 951 when ozone levels rise to nearly 20,000 ppb.

            My question is how do I use a larger range of the units. There are 1023 possible values and I would like to see my reading drop from 971 to maybe the 200 area so that I am using more of the range. I would like each unit to be worth about 0.5 ppb. Ambient outdoor concentrations very rarely go higher than maybe 150 ppb so with the setup I have that would not even register on the serial output.

            Thank you in advance for any help.

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            • AtmosChemeA AtmosCheme

              Hello everyone,

              I have a few of these sensors, but lately I have been concentrating on a MQ131 ozone sensor module from SainSmart. I am building an array utilizing MQ gas sensors and an Arduino that can be attached to a drone to measure vertical concnentration profiles of ground level ozone.

              I am using an ozone generator and a 2B Technologies Ozone Monitor for the calibration of the sensor.

              I have done the 24 hour burn in period on my sensors.
              I have warmed them up to get steady values on my serial monitor.

              The problem that I am having is that I am creating nearly 20,000 ppb O3 and the analog output is only around 25 to 30 units. It works out to around 922 ppb per unit.

              Example before ozone is added the sensor reading is steady at 41. After raising the concentration of O3 to 18,727.5 ppb the reading drops to around 17-18.

              Recently I have added a 22,000 ohm resistor in series with the analog output so that my readings start out at 971. But I am still only dropping around 20 units to 951 when ozone levels rise to nearly 20,000 ppb.

              My question is how do I use a larger range of the units. There are 1023 possible values and I would like to see my reading drop from 971 to maybe the 200 area so that I am using more of the range. I would like each unit to be worth about 0.5 ppb. Ambient outdoor concentrations very rarely go higher than maybe 150 ppb so with the setup I have that would not even register on the serial output.

              Thank you in advance for any help.

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              epierre
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              wrote on last edited by
              #237

              @AtmosCheme the datasheet gives the MQ131from 1 to 1000 ppb, so you reach the limit obviously

              http://eph.ccs.miami.edu/precise/GasSensorSpecs/Ozone.pdf

              z-wave - Vera -&gt; Domoticz
              rfx - Domoticz &lt;- MyDomoAtHome &lt;- Imperihome
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              • epierreE epierre

                @AtmosCheme the datasheet gives the MQ131from 1 to 1000 ppb, so you reach the limit obviously

                http://eph.ccs.miami.edu/precise/GasSensorSpecs/Ozone.pdf

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                @epierre

                Thank you for the reply epierre.

                I was going off of the SainSmart website that says the range for their module is 10 ppb to 200 ppm. That would cover 10 ppb to 200,000 ppb.

                http://www.sainsmart.com/sensors/eco/sainsmart-mq131-gas-sensor-ozone-module-for-arduino-uno-mega2560-r3-raspberry-pi.html

                The values keep dropping down as more and more ozone is added, I'm not thinking it is a problem with range as much as a problem with resolution. I have gone as high as around 50,000 ppb and continue to get response from the sensor.

                Ive thought of using mapping functions in my code as well as resolution functions. But I just wasn't sure if there was a component I could add to the circuit to improve resolution.

                In my latest sketch I have used a calibration code that analog reads the sensor for 6 minutes, and then remaps the min and max values observed during that time. I though this would get a broader range of values. The problem is that the longer the sensor is on it becomes stable so the min and max values become the same and there is nothing to map. So the longer it runs the smaller the range of values in the serial monitor.

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                • AtmosChemeA AtmosCheme

                  @epierre

                  Thank you for the reply epierre.

                  I was going off of the SainSmart website that says the range for their module is 10 ppb to 200 ppm. That would cover 10 ppb to 200,000 ppb.

                  http://www.sainsmart.com/sensors/eco/sainsmart-mq131-gas-sensor-ozone-module-for-arduino-uno-mega2560-r3-raspberry-pi.html

                  The values keep dropping down as more and more ozone is added, I'm not thinking it is a problem with range as much as a problem with resolution. I have gone as high as around 50,000 ppb and continue to get response from the sensor.

                  Ive thought of using mapping functions in my code as well as resolution functions. But I just wasn't sure if there was a component I could add to the circuit to improve resolution.

                  In my latest sketch I have used a calibration code that analog reads the sensor for 6 minutes, and then remaps the min and max values observed during that time. I though this would get a broader range of values. The problem is that the longer the sensor is on it becomes stable so the min and max values become the same and there is nothing to map. So the longer it runs the smaller the range of values in the serial monitor.

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                  epierre
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                  #239

                  @AtmosCheme said:

                  I was going off of the SainSmart website that says the range for their module is 10 ppb to 200 ppm. That would cover 10 ppb to 200,000 ppb.

                  check their datasheet (or ask for it !)

                  The values keep dropping down as more and more ozone is added, I'm not thinking it is a problem with range as much as a problem with resolution. I have gone as high as around 50,000 ppb and continue to get response from the sensor.

                  yes it should be possible but you don't know from the datasheet the value. On a power regression you make an estimation with error, but that may change outside of know datapoints.

                  Ive thought of using mapping functions in my code as well as resolution functions. But I just wasn't sure if there was a component I could add to the circuit to improve resolution.

                  some as the Particle Photon has a better ADC that goes up to 4096

                  z-wave - Vera -&gt; Domoticz
                  rfx - Domoticz &lt;- MyDomoAtHome &lt;- Imperihome
                  mysensors -&gt; mysensors-gw -&gt; Domoticz

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                  • jnewton957J Offline
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                    #240

                    Hi,

                    I just try to connect 7 sensors to an nano.
                    MQ-2, MQ-3, MQ-4,MQ-6, MQ-7,MQ-9, MQ-135

                    With sketch form robosensor https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/1595/mq2-sensor-w-airquality-sketch/2

                    I get data like MQ-7:1020 ,MQ135: 294, MQ-2:191

                    So it looks really good.
                    As i would like to have also the correct names an value names of the sensor and a correct calibration I think I should use a sketch like AirQuality-Multiple_Gas_Sensor1_4.ino
                    But I only see 3 of my 7 sensors in this sketch.

                    What would be a good sketch for my 7 sensors ??

                    Thanks
                    Jorg

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                      #241

                      Hello everybody,

                      I am working with an Arduino Uno and a MQ135 module arduino : http://www.sainsmart.com/sainsmart-mq135-sensor-air-quality-sensor-hazardous-gas-detection-module-arduino.html

                      I can get back data from this sensor, I got 100 ppm when I launched serial terminal after compiling and uploading this code below.

                      int sensorValue;
                      
                      void setup()
                      {
                        Serial.begin(9600);      // sets the serial port to 9600
                      }
                      
                      void loop()
                      {
                        sensorValue = analogRead(0);       // read analog input pin 0
                        Serial.println(sensorValue, DEC);  // prints the value read
                        delay(100);                        // wait 100ms for next reading
                      }
                      

                      But, I would like to get back data from gases like NH3, NOx, alcohol, benzene, smoke and CO2 . I read a lot of topics and the datasheets of the sensor but I don't see how to do.

                      If someone could help me, it will be great.

                      Thanks.

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                      • walk_portoW walk_porto

                        Hello everybody,

                        I am working with an Arduino Uno and a MQ135 module arduino : http://www.sainsmart.com/sainsmart-mq135-sensor-air-quality-sensor-hazardous-gas-detection-module-arduino.html

                        I can get back data from this sensor, I got 100 ppm when I launched serial terminal after compiling and uploading this code below.

                        int sensorValue;
                        
                        void setup()
                        {
                          Serial.begin(9600);      // sets the serial port to 9600
                        }
                        
                        void loop()
                        {
                          sensorValue = analogRead(0);       // read analog input pin 0
                          Serial.println(sensorValue, DEC);  // prints the value read
                          delay(100);                        // wait 100ms for next reading
                        }
                        

                        But, I would like to get back data from gases like NH3, NOx, alcohol, benzene, smoke and CO2 . I read a lot of topics and the datasheets of the sensor but I don't see how to do.

                        If someone could help me, it will be great.

                        Thanks.

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                        wrote on last edited by
                        #242

                        @walk_porto

                        I think that the only way you are going to be able to distinguish between different gases is to have a known concentration of that gas and adjust load resistance. This sensor will detect all of these gase because of cross sensitivity to the gases mentioned in the filament. You can not use just one MQ135 sensor and get readings for all of the gases.

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                          #243

                          Hi Guys,

                          Nice work. I'm based in Hong Kong, and what matters to us is PM2.5, NO2 and Ozone (and indoor CO2/VOC).

                          Have you guys checked the laser based particle sensors like the Plantower G1-G3-G5, Innovafitness SDS011/021 ?
                          http://aqicn.org/sensor

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                          • Thanh-VietT Thanh-Viet

                            Hi Guys,

                            Nice work. I'm based in Hong Kong, and what matters to us is PM2.5, NO2 and Ozone (and indoor CO2/VOC).

                            Have you guys checked the laser based particle sensors like the Plantower G1-G3-G5, Innovafitness SDS011/021 ?
                            http://aqicn.org/sensor

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                            wrote on last edited by
                            #244

                            @Thanh-Viet Hello. Yes, I have Plantower G3 on order from Aliexpress and won't be able to test it before September. I think adopting it for MySensors is going to be easy

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                              Hello, there are statements if the values increase the MQ135 when a room ventilated, without people and is furnished? I I have several rooms here an increase over time. Perhaps this is also by the increase in temperature, sunlight or gases from the furniture. I have not found any literature on this. Is this behavior with other users as well?

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                                Has the type of installation (horizontal or vertical) have an impact on the values of MQ135? I have found no photos of built-in sensors already exist in the data sheet a statement.

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                                  Has the type of installation (horizontal or vertical) have an impact on the values of MQ135? I have found no photos of built-in sensors already exist in the data sheet a statement.

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                                  @paqor yes, in fact my MQ-135 was so unreliable that I had to move on to a different sensor

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                                    Those interested in a 4 sensors Sketch FHEM (CO2, Temp, Hum, Motion) has ...

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                                      Those interested in a 4 sensors Sketch FHEM (CO2, Temp, Hum, Motion) has ...

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                                      @paqor
                                      I'm interested, but i'm using mysensors 2.0. Can you update your sketch?

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                                        @paqor
                                        I'm interested, but i'm using mysensors 2.0. Can you update your sketch?

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                                        @gieljnssns said:

                                        @paqor
                                        I'm interested, but i'm using mysensors 2.0. Can you update your sketch?

                                        Yes, sure but I need time. I'm not a good programmer and need a lot of testing. My Englich is not particularly good. As some patience please, because I have to house, garden, woman and taking care of animals. :two_men_holding_hands:

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                                          @gieljnssns said:

                                          @paqor
                                          I'm interested, but i'm using mysensors 2.0. Can you update your sketch?

                                          Yes, sure but I need time. I'm not a good programmer and need a lot of testing. My Englich is not particularly good. As some patience please, because I have to house, garden, woman and taking care of animals. :two_men_holding_hands:

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                                          @gieljnssns said in Air Quality Sensor:

                                          @paqor
                                          I'm interested, but i'm using mysensors 2.0. Can you update your sketch?

                                          @paqor
                                          https://gleisnetze.de/2016/08/07/sensoren4sketch/

                                          • v0.8 korrigierte Lib von RSTOICA
                                          • EEPROM set R0Cor
                                          • amended mq135.h required!
                                          • Temp, Hum --> CO2Cor
                                          • Api 2.0
                                          • Motion is not yet tested
                                          • Auto base value set r0corr if Co2cor <390
                                          • R0Cor set by TextField runs (incoming message)
                                          • Redesign
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