Air Quality Sensor

alexsh1

@epierre For the air quality purpose which sensor would you recommend TSG-2600 or TS2602? They are slightly different, but both detect aiir contaminants (based on ppm of H2 and EtOH).

So far, I got MH-Z14A and the Dust sensor working with OLED screen and Domoticz and I just want to add 1-2 sensors to finish the project.

epierre

@alexsh1 well any I would think for they are similar technology

alexsh1

@epierre What about MICS-4514 or MICS-5524?

I am thinking ordering this board:
https://sgx.cdistore.com/ProductDetail/MICSVZ86F-SGX-Sensortech-Limited-formerly-e2v/556306/#.V2Bw7jVUmec

Tore André Rosander

How do i get the Airquality sensor to show in domoticz? I use the AirQuality example from the library and MQ2.
I can see that it works in the serial, and it shows as a node under the mysensors hardware, but nothing in log or the device list when i expose it for gas.

0_1466081228162_upload-0f9ebe47-10d5-446c-a3bd-24c1649c94c1

epierre

@Tore-André-Rosander said:

ut nothing in log or the device list when i expose it for gas.

huh you're on which version of mysensors ? have you tried the console (in arduino programmer) to see if there are some readings or a good wiring ?

Tore André Rosander

@epierre Hi! The dev branch (v 2) and the raspberry pi gateway (nrf24 directly connected to RPi GPIO). This is what i get in the serial console when i test with gas from a lighter:

Starting sensor (RNNNA-, 2.0.0-beta)
Radio init successful.
find parent
send: 255-255-255-255 s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,st=bc:
find parent
send: 255-255-255-255 s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,st=bc:
read: 0-0-255 s=255,c=3,t=8,pt=1,l=1,sg=0:0
parent=0, d=1
req id
send: 255-255-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=3,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,st=ok:
req id
send: 255-255-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=3,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,st=ok:
read: 0-0-255 s=255,c=3,t=4,pt=0,l=2,sg=0:5

send: 5-5-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=15,pt=0,l=2,sg=0,st=ok:
send: 5-5-0-0 s=255,c=0,t=17,pt=0,l=10,sg=0,st=ok:2.0.0-beta
send: 5-5-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=6,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,st=fail:0
id=5
Init complete, id=5, parent=0, distance=1
0
LPG:0ppm    CO:0ppm    SMOKE:0ppm
0
LPG:8ppm    CO:47ppm    SMOKE:18ppm
send: 5-5-0-0 s=0,c=1,t=37,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,st=ok:95
0
LPG:0ppm    CO:0ppm    SMOKE:0ppm
send: 5-5-0-0 s=0,c=1,t=37,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,st=ok:0```

epierre

@Tore-André-Rosander said:

t=37

I don't know, would it be possible to have someone knowing the difference of the gateway with domoticz for 2.0 ? here it seems correct to me, some value are well seend from the sensor, so it is between the gateway and domoticz for me.

tuimanso

@epierre I am attempting to apply this code to work with the MQ-8. I am trying to get rid of all of the radio and gw stuff that is in the code. Do you have anything that just calibrates the sensor and reads out the value without of all these other libraries?

tuimanso

@epierre Also, what is the purpose of #define MQ135_MAXRSRO 2.428 //for CO2
#define MQ135_MINRSRO? I don't see them being referenced after they're defined?

epierre

@tuimanso said:

@epierre Also, what is the purpose of #define MQ135_MAXRSRO 2.428 //for CO2
#define MQ135_MINRSRO? I don't see them being referenced after they're defined?

Datasheet defines min and max values they should guarantee, this is an application of it.

if(validinterval<MQ135_MAXRSRO && validinterval>MQ135_MINRSRO) {

tuimanso

Your previous message

Hello,

I have a question about the MQ-8 sensor module . The potentiometer that is soldered onto the board, is it to control the sensitivity of the LED light or for the sensor itself? According to the datasheet for the sensor, the RL (load resistance) for the sensor should be at minimum 10k Ohm, yet I only see an SMD 102 resistor on the board, which is a 1K Ohm resistor. I have used a multimeter to connect the 5V pin and the AOUT pin, and I get precisely a measurement of about 1K Ohm... Does that mean that I should connect a load resistor to this?

This value seems very important since it is referenced in the code, the RL is part of the calculations, yet it is already pre-written 10K ohms...

Please Clarify
Thanks

AtmosCheme

Hello everyone,

I have a few of these sensors, but lately I have been concentrating on a MQ131 ozone sensor module from SainSmart. I am building an array utilizing MQ gas sensors and an Arduino that can be attached to a drone to measure vertical concnentration profiles of ground level ozone.

I am using an ozone generator and a 2B Technologies Ozone Monitor for the calibration of the sensor.

I have done the 24 hour burn in period on my sensors.
I have warmed them up to get steady values on my serial monitor.

The problem that I am having is that I am creating nearly 20,000 ppb O3 and the analog output is only around 25 to 30 units. It works out to around 922 ppb per unit.

Example before ozone is added the sensor reading is steady at 41. After raising the concentration of O3 to 18,727.5 ppb the reading drops to around 17-18.

Recently I have added a 22,000 ohm resistor in series with the analog output so that my readings start out at 971. But I am still only dropping around 20 units to 951 when ozone levels rise to nearly 20,000 ppb.

My question is how do I use a larger range of the units. There are 1023 possible values and I would like to see my reading drop from 971 to maybe the 200 area so that I am using more of the range. I would like each unit to be worth about 0.5 ppb. Ambient outdoor concentrations very rarely go higher than maybe 150 ppb so with the setup I have that would not even register on the serial output.

Thank you in advance for any help.

epierre

@AtmosCheme the datasheet gives the MQ131from 1 to 1000 ppb, so you reach the limit obviously

http://eph.ccs.miami.edu/precise/GasSensorSpecs/Ozone.pdf

AtmosCheme

@epierre

Thank you for the reply epierre.

I was going off of the SainSmart website that says the range for their module is 10 ppb to 200 ppm. That would cover 10 ppb to 200,000 ppb.

http://www.sainsmart.com/sensors/eco/sainsmart-mq131-gas-sensor-ozone-module-for-arduino-uno-mega2560-r3-raspberry-pi.html

The values keep dropping down as more and more ozone is added, I'm not thinking it is a problem with range as much as a problem with resolution. I have gone as high as around 50,000 ppb and continue to get response from the sensor.

Ive thought of using mapping functions in my code as well as resolution functions. But I just wasn't sure if there was a component I could add to the circuit to improve resolution.

In my latest sketch I have used a calibration code that analog reads the sensor for 6 minutes, and then remaps the min and max values observed during that time. I though this would get a broader range of values. The problem is that the longer the sensor is on it becomes stable so the min and max values become the same and there is nothing to map. So the longer it runs the smaller the range of values in the serial monitor.

epierre

@AtmosCheme said:

I was going off of the SainSmart website that says the range for their module is 10 ppb to 200 ppm. That would cover 10 ppb to 200,000 ppb.

check their datasheet (or ask for it !)

The values keep dropping down as more and more ozone is added, I'm not thinking it is a problem with range as much as a problem with resolution. I have gone as high as around 50,000 ppb and continue to get response from the sensor.

yes it should be possible but you don't know from the datasheet the value. On a power regression you make an estimation with error, but that may change outside of know datapoints.

Ive thought of using mapping functions in my code as well as resolution functions. But I just wasn't sure if there was a component I could add to the circuit to improve resolution.

some as the Particle Photon has a better ADC that goes up to 4096

jnewton957

Hi,

I just try to connect 7 sensors to an nano.
MQ-2, MQ-3, MQ-4,MQ-6, MQ-7,MQ-9, MQ-135

With sketch form robosensor https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/1595/mq2-sensor-w-airquality-sketch/2

I get data like MQ-7:1020 ,MQ135: 294, MQ-2:191

So it looks really good.
As i would like to have also the correct names an value names of the sensor and a correct calibration I think I should use a sketch like AirQuality-Multiple_Gas_Sensor1_4.ino
But I only see 3 of my 7 sensors in this sketch.

What would be a good sketch for my 7 sensors ??

Thanks
Jorg

walk_porto

Hello everybody,

I am working with an Arduino Uno and a MQ135 module arduino : http://www.sainsmart.com/sainsmart-mq135-sensor-air-quality-sensor-hazardous-gas-detection-module-arduino.html

I can get back data from this sensor, I got 100 ppm when I launched serial terminal after compiling and uploading this code below.

int sensorValue;

void setup()
{
  Serial.begin(9600);      // sets the serial port to 9600
}

void loop()
{
  sensorValue = analogRead(0);       // read analog input pin 0
  Serial.println(sensorValue, DEC);  // prints the value read
  delay(100);                        // wait 100ms for next reading
}

But, I would like to get back data from gases like NH3, NOx, alcohol, benzene, smoke and CO2 . I read a lot of topics and the datasheets of the sensor but I don't see how to do.

If someone could help me, it will be great.

Thanks.

AtmosCheme

@walk_porto

I think that the only way you are going to be able to distinguish between different gases is to have a known concentration of that gas and adjust load resistance. This sensor will detect all of these gase because of cross sensitivity to the gases mentioned in the filament. You can not use just one MQ135 sensor and get readings for all of the gases.

Thanh-Viet

Hi Guys,

Nice work. I'm based in Hong Kong, and what matters to us is PM2.5, NO2 and Ozone (and indoor CO2/VOC).

Have you guys checked the laser based particle sensors like the Plantower G1-G3-G5, Innovafitness SDS011/021 ?
http://aqicn.org/sensor

alexsh1

@Thanh-Viet Hello. Yes, I have Plantower G3 on order from Aliexpress and won't be able to test it before September. I think adopting it for MySensors is going to be easy

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