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110v-230v AC to Mysensors PCB board

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  • B Brijesh Mishra

    Hello everyone,

    This is a gr8 project, i am looking forward to make few sensor for my home. As i don't have any experience with electronics and very new to all these terms and components.
    I would request anyone of you to, kindly post some pictures of the board with components in place that i can copy and make my boards.
    **Specially 3 pin regulator and Capacitors **

    My first assembled board is not working, it looks like m doing something wrong with either the capacitors or the regulator. I checked my NRF24l01 VCC pin and not getting any voltage at all.

    Please help me guys......

    Thanks and Regards
    Brij

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    @Brijesh-Mishra said:

    I would request anyone of you to, kindly post some pictures of the board with components in place that i can copy and make my boards.

    @the-cosmic-gate has already posted images above.

    Perhaps you should post a picture of what you've done?

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      FullSizeRender 7.jpg FullSizeRender 6.jpg FullSizeRender 8.jpg

      Thanks a lot for your response, this is what i have done so far.

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        Could I ask to the smart PCB builder's / designers to make the same 230v PCB but not using an Arduino but one of the ESP8266 versions , the the board could be even smaller and easier to fix in the wholes

        There's more than meets the eye

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          Could I ask to the smart PCB builder's / designers to make the same 230v PCB but not using an Arduino but one of the ESP8266 versions , the the board could be even smaller and easier to fix in the wholes

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          Brijesh Mishra
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          @the-cosmic-gate, greetings to you. Kindly let me know, is there any issue with the component placement in the board. Not sure why it's not working :(.

          Thanks
          Brijesh

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            nunver
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            @aproxx Great job. Just started to work with mysensors and I was looking for a power supply alternative to mobile phone chargers. Though one question; the board that you included the relay was really interesting. Why did you not proceed on this? Also, do you sell the PCB's?

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            • B Brijesh Mishra

              @the-cosmic-gate, greetings to you. Kindly let me know, is there any issue with the component placement in the board. Not sure why it's not working :(.

              Thanks
              Brijesh

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              @Brijesh-Mishra said:

              @the-cosmic-gate, greetings to you. Kindly let me know, is there any issue with the component placement in the board. Not sure why it's not working :(.

              Thanks

              Brijesh

              There absolutely nothing wrong, but I want to use the ESP8266 to build in instead of the arduino and 2.4 ghz radio (the ESP8266 is an Arduino incl WiFi) so the PCB can be much smaller I think.

              There's more than meets the eye

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                @Brijesh-Mishra , I see two issues with your photos. 1) the 3.3V regulator is on backwards. If you earlier in this thread someone comments that the regulator needs to be put on backward. The white design on the board is not correct. That was also my experience with the boards I built. The flat side of the regulator should face the two cap's. 2) more importantly, it appears that you used a thermal fuse in the spot where fuse #1 goes. Fuse #1 is supposed to be a 300ma slo blow fuse. If that is what you have there no problem, but it looks like the thermal discussed in the thread. This board does not have a place for the thermal fuse. I would consider this a serious safety issue, but I am not an expert. Hope this helps.

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                • N novicit

                  @Brijesh-Mishra , I see two issues with your photos. 1) the 3.3V regulator is on backwards. If you earlier in this thread someone comments that the regulator needs to be put on backward. The white design on the board is not correct. That was also my experience with the boards I built. The flat side of the regulator should face the two cap's. 2) more importantly, it appears that you used a thermal fuse in the spot where fuse #1 goes. Fuse #1 is supposed to be a 300ma slo blow fuse. If that is what you have there no problem, but it looks like the thermal discussed in the thread. This board does not have a place for the thermal fuse. I would consider this a serious safety issue, but I am not an expert. Hope this helps.

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                  Brijesh Mishra
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                  @novicit, Thanks a lot for your help. i will make a new board as per your guidance and share the photos soon.

                  Regards
                  Brijesh

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                    1.jpg 2.jpg 3.jpg 4.jpg

                    Hello. Here I soldered all works well. Thank you

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                      1.jpg 2.jpg 3.jpg 4.jpg

                      Hello. Here I soldered all works well. Thank you

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                      Hi @vampircik,

                      Can you please share roughly how much it costed you to build that node?

                      Thanks

                      MySensors rules my home :)

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                        #169

                        Hi,

                        I now received PCBs from DirtyPCB. I'm searching components (but not from China sellers).
                        Can I use this varistor on the AC side?: http://uk.farnell.com/multicomp/mcsr391k10ds/varistor-60j-250vrms/dp/1856880
                        And on the DC side?: http://uk.farnell.com/multicomp/mcvz1206m050agt/varistor-multilayer-4vac-0402/dp/2462756

                        Thanks in advance!

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                          I can not help.I not particularly versed in radio details

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                          • A aproxx

                            Hi all,

                            **UPDATE April 17 2016 **
                            The latest version of this board is available HERE.

                            After spending a few months on this forum and a few prototypes later, I decided I wanted to build a small but cheap PCB which could be placed in either the wall behind the light switch, or above the lamp.

                            Besides the boards I've seen on this forum, I wanted these boards to contain a module to go from 230v AC to 5/3.3v DC in order to power an Arduino nano and the NRF module. I eventually ended up with a PCB which is about 4 by 4.5cm. So with all components attached I'm hoping to get in stuffed in a 5x5x3cm plastic printed case.

                            Modules which I've used to power the board:
                            [http://www.aliexpress.com/item/5-pcs-HLK-PM01-AC-DC-220V-to-5V-Step-Down-Power-Supply-Module-Intelligent-Household/32319202093.html?spm=2114.32010308.4.19.8oKfZg

                            UPDATE: 2015/09/18
                            As promised, I've got an update for this project. The board has been tested in the past week, and everything is working as expected. Compared to the previous board I've posted, I have updated the following:
                            • Solder pads of LE33CZ have been placed a little wider apart to avoid short circuit while soldering.
                            • Solder pads of the resettable fuse (Fuse2) has been placed closer together to better fit the fuses of the BOM.
                            • Moved the NRF24L01 connector a bit away from the solid state relay. Should make it easier to solder.
                            • Moved Fuse2 to another location on the board, away from the 230v circuit.

                            Some 3D pictures (Top and bottom):
                            Top.png
                            Bottom.png

                            Anyone who is interested can order the PCB HERE

                            Some documentation, complete list of required components and all gerber / DipTrace files (in case you would like to make some modifications) can be found here: MySensors board v3.2.3.zip.

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                            @aproxx hi wonderful design , i was going to make a similar but i can't find EAGLE part and footprint
                            for HLK-PM01 ,and actually i don't know how to design the part library .
                            so please if you can share it i will be thankful

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                              @scropion86 https://www.openhardware.io/download/5693e2ffaab2635a049184d5/design/HKLPM01.lbr

                              Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                              MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                              MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                              RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                                  I really like that this uses the hlk power supply. Any versions of this floating around that instead of a relay do a digital/analog pinout for you to connect sensors to? That would be like a plain vanilla do anything board with safe power

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                                    @punter9 check our hardware site openhardware.io

                                    Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                                    MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                                    MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                                    RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                                      thanks! one more question. I am really striking out finding resettable fuses for 120v US application. Anybody conquer this mole hill?

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                                        thanks! one more question. I am really striking out finding resettable fuses for 120v US application. Anybody conquer this mole hill?

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                                        @punter9 said:

                                        thanks! one more question. I am really striking out finding resettable fuses for 120v US application. Anybody conquer this mole hill?

                                        I don't remember where I read this but it was advised not to use resettable fuses with the HLK. Basically it was said that if the fuse were to blow the HLK would have already been stressed to the point where it may be unsafe and it's best to replace the whole device. I wish I could remember where I read that but I'm not sure...

                                        My "How To" home automation video channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq_Evyh5PQALx4m4CQuxqkA

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                                          @punter9 said:

                                          thanks! one more question. I am really striking out finding resettable fuses for 120v US application. Anybody conquer this mole hill?

                                          I don't remember where I read this but it was advised not to use resettable fuses with the HLK. Basically it was said that if the fuse were to blow the HLK would have already been stressed to the point where it may be unsafe and it's best to replace the whole device. I wish I could remember where I read that but I'm not sure...

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                                          @petewill said:

                                          I don't remember where I read this but it was advised not to use resettable fuses with the HLK. Basically it was said that if the fuse were to blow the HLK would have already been stressed to the point where it may be unsafe and it's best to replace the whole device. I wish I could remember where I read that but I'm not sure...

                                          I'm 90% certain that was from the guy who did the power tests of the HLK. I believe he was saying that these small PSU's don't handle heat or spikes well and if the fuse goes, you should assume the PSU is unsafe as well and replace it. I think it was in a thread that he was replying to on a different forum but I could be wrong.

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