Best platform (currently) for running RFM69HW?
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@NeverDie Here's the link to the OSH Park Teensy adapter board: https://oshpark.com/shared_projects/RIumMBtN
These guys have an an adapter board as well, but a bit pricey: http://modtronicsaustralia.com/shop/rfm69hw-breakout-board-bare-pcb-rf-wireless-module/
Cheers
Al@Sparkman said:
@NeverDie Here's the link to the OSH Park Teensy adapter board: https://oshpark.com/shared_projects/RIumMBtN
These guys have an an adapter board as well, but a bit pricey: http://modtronicsaustralia.com/shop/rfm69hw-breakout-board-bare-pcb-rf-wireless-module/
Cheers
AlThanks, Al!
I suppose if I were to need an SMA connector, that modtronics board would be the only way (at the moment) of getting it.
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It would be a total kludge, but with the correct pins and two adapters per radio, it might work: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/1-27MM-2-0MM-2-54MM-8-pin-adapter-plate/32386544730.html Actually, maybe not even then.
I really hope someone has something better to suggest.
@NeverDie said:
It would be a total kludge, but with the right pins and two adapters per radio, it might work: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/1-27MM-2-0MM-2-54MM-8-pin-adapter-plate/32386544730.html Actually, maybe not even then.
I really hope someone has something better to suggest.
Amazingly, the idea actually does work. Somebody with the same desperate need already did it:
https://www.gorilladistribution.com.au/product/prototyping-adapter-kit-for-hoperf-modules/ -
This guy demonstrates how it can be done using protoboard: http://jdesbonnet.blogspot.com/2014/12/experiments-with-rfm69-433mhz-digital.html
but it was nasty looking, so he later spun his own PCB.
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Here's another option: https://github.com/uChip/RFM69W_BOB
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And this one which is interesting as it adapts the RFM to an NRF pinout: https://hallard.me/rfm12b-breakout/ which could be very useful to use boards like the Sensebender with and RFM69.
Cheers
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@NeverDie : hi. look at here if you want http://forum.mysensors.org/topic/1419/sensor-board-with-booster-and-supervisor. it is not updated yet. I will do soon. I am waiting for my second batch as I had some mistakes. I have to wait two weeks to receive; I can't wait!
you will be able to solder what you need. dc booster can provide constant voltage even if battery is low. it will be possible to solder just some parts, it depends what you will need. I have made a version with nrf_smd+rfm69 footprints too.
I think I will like it. Maybe others...
It is opensource so you will be able too build it.
Note: on overview this is not the pro mini I use (I have not the good 3d model). I use these http://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/feUvNFufiToo bad I didn't see the MYSXConnector before. Next time I will take care :wink:
@scalz said:
@NeverDie : hi. look at here if you want http://forum.mysensors.org/topic/1419/sensor-board-with-booster-and-supervisor. it is not updated yet. I will do soon. I am waiting for my second batch as I had some mistakes. I have to wait two weeks to receive; I can't wait!
you will be able to solder what you need. dc booster can provide constant voltage even if battery is low. it will be possible to solder just some parts, it depends what you will need. I have made a version with nrf_smd+rfm69 footprints too.
I think I will like it. Maybe others...
It is opensource so you will be able too build it.Have you picked out a box yet for mounting it in, and do they mate well? As corny as it sounds, having the total solution can really tip the scales toward your solution. If I go the hybrid route (two different kinds of radios), I think I might find this quite attractive.
Note: on overview this is not the pro mini I use (I have not the good 3d model). I use these http://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/feUvNFufi
Good to know, because that's exactly the source I was thinking of too!
Too bad I didn't see the MYSXConnector before. Next time I will take care :wink:
How does MYSX connector relate to this?
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And this one which is interesting as it adapts the RFM to an NRF pinout: https://hallard.me/rfm12b-breakout/ which could be very useful to use boards like the Sensebender with and RFM69.
Cheers
Al@Sparkman said:
And this one which is interesting as it adapts the RFM to an NRF pinout: https://hallard.me/rfm12b-breakout/ which could be very useful to use boards like the Sensebender with and RFM69.
Cheers
AlThat's interesting: judging from the photos apparently only 9 pins on the RFM69HW are used in the hookup. Maybe that's why loosing 2 pins to make a RFM69CW is no big deal....
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Argh!!!! Apparently the RFM69CW has the same stupid 2.0mm pin spacing as the RFM69W.
As crude as it sounds, maybe all that's required in bending some pins: http://jeelabs.net/boards/6/topics/1012
So, the above pin bending would work for at least the RFM69CW.
Actually, for the RFM69W, I'd apparently only need be concerned about bending the 9 pins that actually get used....
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@NeverDie :
You are right. On my non-updated overview it is corny. But I have already rounded corners. And I have only one hole for screw (3mm). It is very difficult to add others because of size and component placement. But I will see later if it is a problem.
You can have a look here of what I have sent to fabhouse:
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/scalz/MySensors-HW/development/PowerManagementMysensors/img/top.png
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/scalz/MySensors-HW/development/PowerManagementMysensors/img/bottom.pngFor the box, I didn't find enclosures which make me happy because of available size. It is so rectangular. Not beautiful. So I am planning to buy a 3d printer and make my own encosure based on my board. Then share my design...as I have others cool boards in project.
Yes I am using same pro mini source as yours:wink:
For MYSXConnector, I said this because I read this topic http://forum.mysensors.org/topic/1796/unnamed-project-usb-hub-stick . So next time, I will take care about this if possible, as I am working for me and for community too.If it is just a breakout that you are searching for, links above are interesting. I talked with Charles from hallard.me . He is doing very great job. I am a big fan! and his ulpnode will be released soon I think. Can't wait to buy one to support his work!
In my side, I wanted something different (no sensors already mounted, modularity, signing and ota Mysensors feature ...). So I did mine. And Charles have gracefully proposed me to help to make my board compatible with his upcoming ultra low power lib. And it will be Mysensors compatible too. So coool!I think you will have a lot of choice...
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@NeverDie :
You are right. On my non-updated overview it is corny. But I have already rounded corners. And I have only one hole for screw (3mm). It is very difficult to add others because of size and component placement. But I will see later if it is a problem.
You can have a look here of what I have sent to fabhouse:
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/scalz/MySensors-HW/development/PowerManagementMysensors/img/top.png
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/scalz/MySensors-HW/development/PowerManagementMysensors/img/bottom.pngFor the box, I didn't find enclosures which make me happy because of available size. It is so rectangular. Not beautiful. So I am planning to buy a 3d printer and make my own encosure based on my board. Then share my design...as I have others cool boards in project.
Yes I am using same pro mini source as yours:wink:
For MYSXConnector, I said this because I read this topic http://forum.mysensors.org/topic/1796/unnamed-project-usb-hub-stick . So next time, I will take care about this if possible, as I am working for me and for community too.If it is just a breakout that you are searching for, links above are interesting. I talked with Charles from hallard.me . He is doing very great job. I am a big fan! and his ulpnode will be released soon I think. Can't wait to buy one to support his work!
In my side, I wanted something different (no sensors already mounted, modularity, signing and ota Mysensors feature ...). So I did mine. And Charles have gracefully proposed me to help to make my board compatible with his upcoming ultra low power lib. And it will be Mysensors compatible too. So coool!I think you will have a lot of choice...
@scalz said:
@NeverDie :
You are right. On my non-updated overview it is corny. But I have already rounded corners. And I have only one hole for screw (3mm). It is very difficult to add others because of size and component placement. But I will see later if it is a problem.
You can have a look here of what I have sent to fabhouse:
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/scalz/MySensors-HW/development/PowerManagementMysensors/img/top.png
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/scalz/MySensors-HW/development/PowerManagementMysensors/img/bottom.pngFor the box, I didn't find enclosures which make me happy because of available size. It is so rectangular. Not beautiful. So I am planning to buy a 3d printer and make my own encosure based on my board. Then share my design...as I have others cool boards in project.
Yes I am using same pro mini source as yours:wink:
For MYSXConnector, I said this because I read this topic http://forum.mysensors.org/topic/1796/unnamed-project-usb-hub-stick . So next time, I will take care about this if possible, as I am working for me and for community too.If it is just a breakout that you are searching for, links above are interesting. I talked with Charles from hallard.me . He is doing very great job. I am a big fan! and his ulpnode will be released soon I think. Can't wait to buy one to support his work!
In my side, I wanted something different (no sensors already mounted, modularity, signing and ota Mysensors feature ...). So I did mine. And Charles have gracefully proposed me to help to make my board compatible with his upcoming ultra low power lib. And it will be Mysensors compatible too. So coool!I think you will have a lot of choice...
Not many people are going to custom print their box enclosure. You might, because you're invested in it. If you want others to use it too, consider instead first finding a good, small, inexpensive box from China that's easy to source from different suppliers to house it all in, and then work backward from that. So, for instance, there should be screw holes in your board over whatever standoffs there are in the box. Then, each end user doesn't have to scratch their head and waste time doing an independent search for what box to use to house your board. That part is known as the outset, and you can have links to Ebay and/or AliExpress on where to get it.
FWIW, from an end user perspective, that's what most people will want: an easy and inexpensive and total solution. Not to be left dangling after being painted into a corner.
Either that, or plan on selling your custom box along with your custom board, so at least the shipping can be combined. I imagine it will be tough competing with China though... :smirk:
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@Neverdie: I agree with you of course. When I started to design my board, I looked to enclosure but didn't find my dream.. It is often too big, too thick or not enough, too small... often not very beautiful, and if you want to keep pcb low price you need to stay under 5cmx5cm (15$ for 10 pcb).
So it was not easy deal. And enclosure are sometimes a little expensive for what it is compared to 3d printings (of course it needs to invest in a 3d printer). I am thinking to make custom enclosure a little more designed than traditional rectangular, for motion, or sensors like some members are doing here...But you are totally right, if it is for community too, I must dig in an esay, inexpensive an toal way...I will see what I can do if it can help.
I don't do this for business. And not planning to sell anything. It is just share and fun. just want to release what people need to make one. But if there is demand, I will see how it could be done regarding Mysensors spirit.. But you are right I can't compete with China! even if I think it will be less expensive to build mine than asking fabhouse to build it (of course I don't look at my time making).
Oh, and I hope my english is understable:smiley: and I promise I will look at your requirements. In the mean time, if you see good enclosure regarding pcb size, you can tell me if you want (maybe this topic is not the right place for enclosure...)
See you soon.
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@Neverdie: I agree with you of course. When I started to design my board, I looked to enclosure but didn't find my dream.. It is often too big, too thick or not enough, too small... often not very beautiful, and if you want to keep pcb low price you need to stay under 5cmx5cm (15$ for 10 pcb).
So it was not easy deal. And enclosure are sometimes a little expensive for what it is compared to 3d printings (of course it needs to invest in a 3d printer). I am thinking to make custom enclosure a little more designed than traditional rectangular, for motion, or sensors like some members are doing here...But you are totally right, if it is for community too, I must dig in an esay, inexpensive an toal way...I will see what I can do if it can help.
I don't do this for business. And not planning to sell anything. It is just share and fun. just want to release what people need to make one. But if there is demand, I will see how it could be done regarding Mysensors spirit.. But you are right I can't compete with China! even if I think it will be less expensive to build mine than asking fabhouse to build it (of course I don't look at my time making).
Oh, and I hope my english is understable:smiley: and I promise I will look at your requirements. In the mean time, if you see good enclosure regarding pcb size, you can tell me if you want (maybe this topic is not the right place for enclosure...)
See you soon.
@scalz said:
@Neverdie: I agree with you of course. When I started to design my board, I looked to enclosure but didn't find my dream.. It is often too big, too thick or not enough, too small... often not very beautiful, and if you want to keep pcb low price you need to stay under 5cmx5cm (15$ for 10 pcb).
So it was not easy deal. And enclosure are sometimes a little expensive for what it is compared to 3d printings (of course it needs to invest in a 3d printer). I am thinking to make custom enclosure a little more designed than traditional rectangular, for motion, or sensors like some members are doing here...But you are totally right, if it is for community too, I must dig in an esay, inexpensive an toal way...I will see what I can do if it can help.
I don't do this for business. And not planning to sell anything. It is just share and fun. just want to release what people need to make one. But if there is demand, I will see how it could be done regarding Mysensors spirit.. But you are right I can't compete with China! even if I think it will be less expensive to build mine than asking itead or others to build it (of course I don't look at my time making).
Oh, and I hope my english is understable:smiley: and I promise I will look at your requirements. In the mean time, if you see good enclosure regarding pcb size, you can PM me if you want (maybe this topic is not the right place for enclosure...)
See you soon.
Agreed. Although important, this is getting off-topic and deserves it's own thread, so I've started one here: http://forum.mysensors.org/topic/1816/best-project-boxes-to-use-for-mysensor-s-gateway-and-sensor-nodes
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@Zeph said:
If you want more than one kind of module, you can ask the eBay seller to combine shipping.
Thanks! I just heard back from Anarduino through the eBay site and he's confirmed that combined shipping for everything is $6.55, so that's a great deal (assuming I buy more than one item :-) )
Cheers
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BTW, I did just now order these to have on hand for hooking up 2.0mm pitch modules, like, for instance, the RFM69W to a conventional R3 Arduino shield. I offered $14.01, which the seller accepted, so that's $1.40/board, shipping included.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/201259671475?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2648&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
Just mentioning it here in case anyone else here might also benefit from them.
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Here's one I designed which you can get from OSHPark for $5 for 3. I've used it w/ 3.3V signals but it was based on this break out board which the designer reported worked fine using the resistor dividers for 5V signals. Works great for bread-board tests of the RFM69.
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Has anyone tried the moteino or anarduino using mysensors? I am very tempted to press the buy button on one or the other. Pity they are so pricey but I am getting lazy to solder etc so I like having it all on one PCB :-)
@shabba said:
Has anyone tried the moteino or anarduino using mysensors? I am very tempted to press the buy button on one or the other. Pity they are so pricey but I am getting lazy to solder etc so I like having it all on one PCB :-)
I have! I'm using a Moteino as a gateway with a non -H and that worked out of the box. I'm now building some sensors (including the outdoors in the PIR-light one) with -H versions. I bought these Moteinos without the RFM to avoid customs costs.
If you do buy them without RFM; do not forget to insulate the bottom side of the RFM with PV-tape. I didn't, and I couldn't get it to work properly. Insulated and away it went!In short: Moteino works! Small form-factor, wide voltage input with own LDO and low-power is easy.
Succes with your projects!
