Multisensor node using Ceech board

[ceech]

Ah, yes. I think i know what the problem is. The LTC4079 has a built-in MPPT power tracking for solar panels and won't charge if the input voltage is below set point. This helps optimizing power extraction from solar panels. If you are using 5V input, then you should adjust the trimmer pot on the board. Like this

Turn the top round part of the trimmer to the left so that the wiper reaches 5V mark like on the above picture. In other words reduce trimmer resistance to minimum. The other way around is for 18V solar panels.

[MikeF]

@ceech That did it - thanks! :smile:

Currently charging at c. 90mA:

Vcc = 3.30V
Charge current = 89.93mA
Solar cell voltage = 4.95V
Battery voltage = 3.62V
CHRG = 0

[alexsh1]

@ceech I have the same problem with the LTC4079 board:

Running a simplified sketch gives the following:

Vcc = 3.39V
Charge current = 2.26mA
Solar cell voltage = 5.40V
Battery voltage = 4.11V
CHRG = 502


Vcc = 3.42V
Charge current = 0.25mA
Solar cell voltage = 5.41V
Battery voltage = 4.11V
CHRG = 500

Vcc = 3.35V
Charge current = 0.00mA
Solar cell voltage = 5.24V
Battery voltage = 4.11V
CHRG = 498

Vcc = 3.33V
Charge current = 0.00mA
Solar cell voltage = 5.19V
Battery voltage = 4.08V
CHRG = 496

CHRG is never goes to zero or close and the charging current is low or zero. Shall I try to adjust the same potentiometer as above?

[ceech]

If the trimmer is in the same position as when new, then yes. Turn it anti-clockwise to reach its minimum value. Either that or raise the input voltage to 11V.

[alexsh1]

@ceech I cannot supply more than 6V as this is my solar panel maximum voltage.

How many turns or degrees shall turn it?
I did one and a half turn, but it still does not charge the battery. This is the current position.

[ceech]

This is a one turn trimmer. Its minimum value is close to 5V mark on one of the above pictures. And its maximum value is next to 18V mark. Since you've turned it more than once, you have to first determine the current wiper position. If you look closely you can see that the turning top is not quite round. One side is a bit flattened. That is the opposite side of the wiper. Now if you take a look at your picture then I think your wiper position is at around 6 or 7V ( to use the same terminology). I would say 20 more degrees to the left and you'll reach 5V.

You can also measure the trimmer's resistance. Like so

Find the minimum value between marked points. That is your target resistance value.

[alexsh1]

@ceech - many thanks for above.
I think I nailed it finally.
Is the voltage below normal or can that be adjusted somehow?

Vcc = 3.35V
Charge current = 34.22mA
Solar cell voltage = 4.55V
Battery voltage = 3.80V
CHRG = 446


Vcc = 3.39V
Charge current = 31.87mA
Solar cell voltage = 4.72V
Battery voltage = 3.78V
CHRG = 451

When does analogue A7 (CHRG) go down to zero or around zero?

[ceech]

What voltage would you like to adjust?
The current is a bit low. What is your panel's maximum available current?
The charger is not operating at its full power. Either you are a bit high with the setting on the trimmer or the panel can't supply enough. Charging current should be around 90mA.

[alexsh1]

@ceech The solar panal is 6V 4.5W, but right now it is used inside under my table lamp hence a lower voltage (4.7V). I'll to put it in the sun once the weather improves to test it.

EDIT: I have not tested the solar panel before in the sun. Obviously, it provides ~4.8V inside and not sure if it will provide closer to 6v in the sun. I purchased it here http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/281945297221

Can I connect 5.5v power supply to the 'solar cell' contacts from a reliable PSU to test the trimmer settings ?

[alexsh1]

@ceech

Ok, it looks like the trimmer is set to 5.5-6V
I am feeding it from 5.5V PSU instead of the solar panal

Charge current = 92.28mA
Solar cell voltage = 5.54V
Battery voltage = 3.82V
CHRG = 467

[ceech]

Sure use your power supply. No problem. If the solar cell is 6V, than leave the trimmer. I think you got it just right.
And you were getting 30mA INDOORS? That's great. I'm quite pleased with that information.
This means that this sensor board can also be used as Indoors solar harvester.

[alexsh1]

@ceech yes, 30ma indoor, but it is under a direct light. The cut-off voltage is around 4.7V for charging.

[ceech]

@alexsh1 You are at the minimum then. The trimmer was calculated for 4.75V minimum voltage. You might want to raise it a little to get 5.5V-6V MPPT.

[alexsh1]

@ceech Ok, but what's the tolerance please? I do want the threashhold to be at the minimum level, but meantime I do not want to damage LTC4079.

[ceech]

@alexsh1 No need to worry about minimum voltage destroying the IC. It is just necessary for the battery to receive full charge that the input voltage is within 4.75V and 20V.

[alexsh1]

@ceech Ok so if I have a sunny day and the solar panel is providing 6V, but I have 4.75V MPPT set as a minimum, there is no problem?

[ceech]

@alexsh1 No problem.

[alexsh1]

@ceech Thanks for your help!

[alexsh1]

I am really impressed with this board. On a very grey day outside, I have 4.7V on the solar cell and around 32mA charging current. Cannot wait for the sun to come out to test it.

[rollercontainer]

Hi ceech,

first things first: I have a really small knowledge about charging batteries.

Could you give me a hint how to adopt the floating voltage for a NiCd battery?
By reading the datasheet I only found NiMh with a 3kOhm PROG resistor while yours is 1180Ohm. Do I have to modify him to lower the charge current?
And how about the timer capacitor. I red, that NiCd shouldn't charged too long. You pulled TIMER to ground, so the device will charge forever?

Maybe this problem is solved by the sunset itself?

Again thanks for your contribution!