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  • alexsh1A Offline
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    alexsh1
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    #14

    @arraWX - how is your experiment with K-30 going? I am still searching for a good low current Co2 sensor....I am really puzzled that nothing is available even after a very extensive search.

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      #15

      The circuit diagram that I posted above did not show communication lines between the K-30 and the sensebender. These are included here:

      0_1457164201458_DSC00565.JPG

      However, I now realise that the K-30 and the sensebender cannot be connected this way because the sensebender (ATmega328P) digital inputs do not accept voltages higher than Vcc + 0.5V.

      Does anyone have a suggestion how this problem can be solved?

      @alexsh1 As you can see my experiments with powering the K-30 from batteries are not going that well...

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      • A arraWX

        The circuit diagram that I posted above did not show communication lines between the K-30 and the sensebender. These are included here:

        0_1457164201458_DSC00565.JPG

        However, I now realise that the K-30 and the sensebender cannot be connected this way because the sensebender (ATmega328P) digital inputs do not accept voltages higher than Vcc + 0.5V.

        Does anyone have a suggestion how this problem can be solved?

        @alexsh1 As you can see my experiments with powering the K-30 from batteries are not going that well...

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        #16

        @arraWX OK, found an excellent sensor. The only problem is price - one has to pay for a precise sensor with ultra low power consumption.

        Linearity:Nonlinear (% F.S.)
        Sluggish:None (% F.S.)
        Repeatability:Standard (% F.S.)
        Sensitivity:High sensitivity
        Drift:No
        Resolution:High Resolution
        MH-Z19-W01-GSS-COZIRCarbon dioxide sensor
        Ultra-low-power carbon dioxide sensor
        MH-Z19-W01-GSS-COZIR carbon dioxide sensor (hereinafter referred to as COZIR) COZIR is an ultra-low power consumption (3.5mW), high-precision carbon dioxide sensor, ideal for battery-powered portable instruments and equipment. Based on IR LED, detector technology and patented optical detection cavity, so COZIR become the lowest power NDIR sensor, optional temperature and humidity testing. GSS is carbon dioxide detection infrared LED leader in the field, COZIR GSS company is the third generation of products.
        COZIR Ambient measurable range 0 ~ 2000PPM, 0 ~ 5000ppm and 0 to 1 percent, and is suitable for building control such as gardening and other occasions.
        Ultra-low-power 3.5MW
        Measuring range: 0 to 1%
        Low noise measurement (<10PPM)
        3.3V power supply
        peak current is only 33 mA
        Temperature and humidity output optional

        http://s.aliexpress.com/bMz6ZRBZ

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        • alexsh1A alexsh1

          @arraWX OK, found an excellent sensor. The only problem is price - one has to pay for a precise sensor with ultra low power consumption.

          Linearity:Nonlinear (% F.S.)
          Sluggish:None (% F.S.)
          Repeatability:Standard (% F.S.)
          Sensitivity:High sensitivity
          Drift:No
          Resolution:High Resolution
          MH-Z19-W01-GSS-COZIRCarbon dioxide sensor
          Ultra-low-power carbon dioxide sensor
          MH-Z19-W01-GSS-COZIR carbon dioxide sensor (hereinafter referred to as COZIR) COZIR is an ultra-low power consumption (3.5mW), high-precision carbon dioxide sensor, ideal for battery-powered portable instruments and equipment. Based on IR LED, detector technology and patented optical detection cavity, so COZIR become the lowest power NDIR sensor, optional temperature and humidity testing. GSS is carbon dioxide detection infrared LED leader in the field, COZIR GSS company is the third generation of products.
          COZIR Ambient measurable range 0 ~ 2000PPM, 0 ~ 5000ppm and 0 to 1 percent, and is suitable for building control such as gardening and other occasions.
          Ultra-low-power 3.5MW
          Measuring range: 0 to 1%
          Low noise measurement (<10PPM)
          3.3V power supply
          peak current is only 33 mA
          Temperature and humidity output optional

          http://s.aliexpress.com/bMz6ZRBZ

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          korttoma
          Hero Member
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          #17

          @alexsh1 at that prize you could buy a few Netatmo additional indoor modules. Might be that the sensor you suggested would be allot more accurate though.

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          • korttomaK korttoma

            @alexsh1 at that prize you could buy a few Netatmo additional indoor modules. Might be that the sensor you suggested would be allot more accurate though.

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            alexsh1
            wrote on last edited by alexsh1
            #18

            @korttoma Yes, I know what you are saying, but Netatmo is not precise. I have MH-Z14 showing 750ppm and Netatmo 1100ppm, for example. I think Netatmo is using index.

            All I can say that a calibrated low power CO2 sensor is very expensive. Probably for a home use you do not need to know the exact number. Personally, I have MH-Z14 - it is reasonably expensive and very accurate.

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              #19

              I have a MH-Z14 on the way with the slow boat from china, looking forward to testing it.

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              • korttomaK korttoma

                I have a MH-Z14 on the way with the slow boat from china, looking forward to testing it.

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                #20

                @korttoma I got mine a month ago from China. I think it can be used with batteries, but it has to be something like 18650 3000mAh to last longer.

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                • alexsh1A alexsh1

                  @korttoma I got mine a month ago from China. I think it can be used with batteries, but it has to be something like 18650 3000mAh to last longer.

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                  @alexsh1 I was not planing on using it on batteries'. I now have an MQ-2 sensor in the ventilation fresh air intake to detect smoke but it has proven to be unreliable so I thought id try the MH-Z14 instead. Sometimes smoke comes in through the ventilation an then I want it to turn off automatically.

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                  • korttomaK korttoma

                    @alexsh1 I was not planing on using it on batteries'. I now have an MQ-2 sensor in the ventilation fresh air intake to detect smoke but it has proven to be unreliable so I thought id try the MH-Z14 instead. Sometimes smoke comes in through the ventilation an then I want it to turn off automatically.

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                    #22

                    @korttoma I think we are going the same way. I was not able to relay on my MQ135 and decided to order something more reliable.

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                      korttoma
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                      #23

                      I received my MH-Z14 yesterday hocked it up on a breadboard to test it and it seems to be working as expected. Now I need a more permanent setup so I can test and compare to a Netatmo indoor module. I may add an SI7021 to the same node.

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                      • korttomaK korttoma

                        I received my MH-Z14 yesterday hocked it up on a breadboard to test it and it seems to be working as expected. Now I need a more permanent setup so I can test and compare to a Netatmo indoor module. I may add an SI7021 to the same node.

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                        #24

                        @korttoma I'll be adding BMP180 shortly as I need pressure and temperature to make a conversion.

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