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💬 Various bootloader files based on Optiboot 6.2

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  • S Samuel235

    @GertSanders I will test this as we speak! May I ask if there is a difference between your DIL and TQFP entries in your boards.txt?

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    wrote on last edited by GertSanders
    #89

    @Samuel235

    In the boards.txt you will see additional entries for the 32 pin version. These are basically a repeat of all the inputs for the 28 pin version.

    So yes, there is a difference in the boards.txt file, but the boot loaders remain the same.

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    • GertSandersG GertSanders

      @Samuel235

      In the boards.txt you will see additional entries for the 32 pin version. These are basically a repeat of all the inputs for the 28 pin version.

      So yes, there is a difference in the boards.txt file, but the boot loaders remain the same.

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      Samuel235
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      @GertSanders I'm sorry, I didn't look inside of the folder your provided before i asked that question.

      MySensors 2.1.1
      Controller - OpenHAB (Virtual Machine)
      Gateway - Arduino Mega MQTT Gateway W5100

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        Samuel235
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        #91

        Last update on this topic to save bogging it down now, just to assist anyone else looking to use your bootloaders. I have managed to upload sketches to my MCU. I'm running the 'optiboot_atmega328_08m_004800_noled.hex' bootloader with the following boards.txt entry:

        ##############################################################
        ##                        GERTSANDERS                       ##
        ##############################################################
        
        menu.mhz=CPU Speed
        menu.bod=Brown Out Detection
        
        28PinBoard.name=atmega328p based - 28 pin DIL
        
        28PinBoard.upload.tool=arduino:avrdude
        28PinBoard.upload.protocol=arduino
        28PinBoard.upload.maximum_size=32256
        28PinBoard.upload.maximum_data_size=2048
        
        28PinBoard.bootloader.tool=arduino:avrdude
        
        28PinBoard.bootloader.unlock_bits=0x3F
        28PinBoard.bootloader.lock_bits=0x0F
        
        28PinBoard.build.core=arduino:arduino
        28PinBoard.build.mcu=atmega328p
        
        28PinBoard.build.board=AVR_GERTSANDERS28PinBoard
        28PinBoard.build.variant=28PinBoard
        
        28PinBoard.menu.bod.4v3=4V3
        28PinBoard.menu.bod.4v3.bootloader.extended_fuses=0x04
        28PinBoard.menu.bod.2v7=2V7
        28PinBoard.menu.bod.2v7.bootloader.extended_fuses=0x05
        28PinBoard.menu.bod.1v8=1V8
        28PinBoard.menu.bod.1v8.bootloader.extended_fuses=0x06
        28PinBoard.menu.bod.off=Disabled
        28PinBoard.menu.bod.off.bootloader.extended_fuses=0x07
        
        28PinBoard.menu.mhz.8Mi-38K4-D8= 8Mhz - internal - 4K8 - D8
        28PinBoard.menu.mhz.8Mi-38K4-D8.bootloader.low_fuses=0xE2
        28PinBoard.menu.mhz.8Mi-38K4-D8.bootloader.high_fuses=0xDE
        28PinBoard.menu.mhz.8Mi-38K4-D8.build.f_cpu=8000000L
        28PinBoard.menu.mhz.8Mi-38K4-D8.upload.speed=4800
        28PinBoard.menu.mhz.8Mi-38K4-D8.bootloader.file=gertsoptiboot/optiboot_atmega328_08m_004800_noled.hex
        

        I'de like to thank you for the time and effort you have put in to assist me on this problem. I will be making entries for the rest of your bootloaders that you have also kindly given to us. I'll be changing this to a faster upload speed bootloader variant to allow for quicker uploads, maybe the 'optiboot_atmega328_08M_038400_NOLED.hex'. Would you advise me to use this bootloader with the correct boards.txt entry for it, would it be okay to have on my switch node permanently or is there something in there that wouldn't make it appropriate?

        After seeing the extent that you have gone to with your customization with the bootloaders, it has inspired me to get into bootloaders myself. All in due time.

        Thank you once again :)

        MySensors 2.1.1
        Controller - OpenHAB (Virtual Machine)
        Gateway - Arduino Mega MQTT Gateway W5100

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          wrote on last edited by bjacobse
          #92

          I have upgraded my Arduino to 1.6.8, running Ubuntu 14.04LTS and downloaded the GertSander great optiboot :-)
          I use Arduino Pro mini clones from ebay. I have removed power LED and LDO, since those shall be powered from 2pcs AAA . I can read "80e" on the crystal - I assume this is 8MHz
          But I get weird troubles, I can flash bootloader via TinyUSB and upload sketch via FTDI, but not the lower frequencies like 1MHz or 4MHz, my working sketch upload is with 8 MHz (I have not tried with a higer freq). I can upload both using internal and external crystal settings. I use BOD=1.8V
          I have been suspecting my USB cable to MiniUSB to FTDI, but it's working when I use the 8MHz frequencey and 38K4baud rate
          any good ideas?

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          • bjacobseB bjacobse

            I have upgraded my Arduino to 1.6.8, running Ubuntu 14.04LTS and downloaded the GertSander great optiboot :-)
            I use Arduino Pro mini clones from ebay. I have removed power LED and LDO, since those shall be powered from 2pcs AAA . I can read "80e" on the crystal - I assume this is 8MHz
            But I get weird troubles, I can flash bootloader via TinyUSB and upload sketch via FTDI, but not the lower frequencies like 1MHz or 4MHz, my working sketch upload is with 8 MHz (I have not tried with a higer freq). I can upload both using internal and external crystal settings. I use BOD=1.8V
            I have been suspecting my USB cable to MiniUSB to FTDI, but it's working when I use the 8MHz frequencey and 38K4baud rate
            any good ideas?

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            GertSanders
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            wrote on last edited by GertSanders
            #93

            @bjacobse

            You should not flash the 4Mhz bootloader to a pro mini, because it works in 2 ways: with 8Mhz crystal or using the internal oscillator.

            When using the internal oscillator, you can use it at 8Mhz (default) or at 1Mhz. In this last case, the fuse for clockdivision by 8 need to be set.

            I have not experimented with a clock division by 2, which would allow the 4MHz boot loader to work.

            I have some 4MHz crystals, so that is why I compiled the 4Mhz version of the boot loader.

            When uploading via FTDI, you need to keep the settings at which you flashed the bootloader.

            I found that when using the internal oscillator, there is a difference when you flash at 5V or at 3V3 for the same processor. If you flash the boatloader while it is powered at 5V, and then use the processor at 3V3 you may have issues with loading via FTDI at higher speeds, because the actual speed of the internal oscillator is different at 5V or 3V3.

            So I think it is best to always use the crystal.

            If you do need to run the processor at slower speed, keep the 8Mhz crystal setting, but use clock division. This means you need to change the fuse settings to make that work.

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              #94

              @hek I wanted to upload a ZIP file of my hardware sub folder so people can just expand that ZIP into their <sketches>\hardware directory, but the Openhardware.io site unpacks the ZIP and puts the files in various places.
              Is there a way to upload a ZIP without it being unpacked ? Is a RAR file allowed (not tested this). I tried renaming the extension to .unzip_this but that "file type" is not accepted by the import function.

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                Samuel235
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                wrote on last edited by
                #95

                Good afternoon @GertSanders, I'm over the moon with your bootloaders than you provided me. Is there anything that would make you advice me not to use your 'optiboot_atmega328_08M_038400_NOLED.hex' bootloader full time on my light switches?

                MySensors 2.1.1
                Controller - OpenHAB (Virtual Machine)
                Gateway - Arduino Mega MQTT Gateway W5100

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                • S Samuel235

                  Good afternoon @GertSanders, I'm over the moon with your bootloaders than you provided me. Is there anything that would make you advice me not to use your 'optiboot_atmega328_08M_038400_NOLED.hex' bootloader full time on my light switches?

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                  #96

                  @Samuel235
                  I see no reason for not using it. The fact that you do not need the led, make no difference in the actual work of the boot loader.

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                  • bjacobseB bjacobse

                    I have upgraded my Arduino to 1.6.8, running Ubuntu 14.04LTS and downloaded the GertSander great optiboot :-)
                    I use Arduino Pro mini clones from ebay. I have removed power LED and LDO, since those shall be powered from 2pcs AAA . I can read "80e" on the crystal - I assume this is 8MHz
                    But I get weird troubles, I can flash bootloader via TinyUSB and upload sketch via FTDI, but not the lower frequencies like 1MHz or 4MHz, my working sketch upload is with 8 MHz (I have not tried with a higer freq). I can upload both using internal and external crystal settings. I use BOD=1.8V
                    I have been suspecting my USB cable to MiniUSB to FTDI, but it's working when I use the 8MHz frequencey and 38K4baud rate
                    any good ideas?

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                    wrote on last edited by
                    #97

                    @bjacobse

                    Just to be clear for me: did you try to upload a 1Mhz bootloader and then try to send a sketch via FTDI to the same 1Mhz boot loader, and this fails ?

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                      Samuel235
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                      #98

                      @GertSanders said:

                      @Samuel235
                      I see no reason for not using it. The fact that you do not need the led, make no difference in the actual work of the boot loader.

                      Thank you!

                      MySensors 2.1.1
                      Controller - OpenHAB (Virtual Machine)
                      Gateway - Arduino Mega MQTT Gateway W5100

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                        bjacobse
                        wrote on last edited by bjacobse
                        #99

                        oki I got it 4 MHz wont work on Pro Mini. but I would assume 1MHz bootloaders should be ok?

                        1)I have first selected board: atmega328 based 32pins TQFP, then the frequency.
                        2)Flashed bootloader via tiny USB
                        3)Then put Pro Mini to FTDI, and then tried to upload sketch. (no changes at all to which board type, speed, or BOD)

                        (I use 1 USB port on laptop for tinyUSB and another USB port for FTDI.)

                        Then I change speed/frequency, and do the step 1,2,3 as above

                        Selecting 8MHz-crystal-38k4-D8 is working flawless.
                        None of the 1MHz selection is working for me...

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                        • bjacobseB bjacobse

                          oki I got it 4 MHz wont work on Pro Mini. but I would assume 1MHz bootloaders should be ok?

                          1)I have first selected board: atmega328 based 32pins TQFP, then the frequency.
                          2)Flashed bootloader via tiny USB
                          3)Then put Pro Mini to FTDI, and then tried to upload sketch. (no changes at all to which board type, speed, or BOD)

                          (I use 1 USB port on laptop for tinyUSB and another USB port for FTDI.)

                          Then I change speed/frequency, and do the step 1,2,3 as above

                          Selecting 8MHz-crystal-38k4-D8 is working flawless.
                          None of the 1MHz selection is working for me...

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                          GertSanders
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                          wrote on last edited by GertSanders
                          #100

                          @bjacobse
                          Strange, I'm using the 1mhz with 9600 upload on 2 narrow nodes. I will investigate tomorrow.

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                          • GertSandersG GertSanders

                            @bjacobse
                            Strange, I'm using the 1mhz with 9600 upload on 2 narrow nodes. I will investigate tomorrow.

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                            bjacobse
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                            #101

                            @GertSanders
                            I it's quite strange, I believe your bootloadser are in good shape and also your boards.txt
                            Thats why I suspect my USB to miniUSB cable to FTDI to behave odd.
                            Do you have Arduino Pro Mini 3,3V 8MHz that you can try at your place?

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                            • bjacobseB bjacobse

                              @GertSanders
                              I it's quite strange, I believe your bootloadser are in good shape and also your boards.txt
                              Thats why I suspect my USB to miniUSB cable to FTDI to behave odd.
                              Do you have Arduino Pro Mini 3,3V 8MHz that you can try at your place?

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                              GertSanders
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                              #102

                              @bjacobse

                              I uploaded two boot loaders on a pro mini 3V3 version with 8Mhz resonator.

                              On this board I loaded a boot loader for 1MHz clock frequency and upload speed of 9600 baud. This worked fine. Then I tried the 4800 baud upload speed version: same thing. Both boot loaders uploaded fine, and I was able to load sketches on both with an Adafruit FTDI friend at the specified upload speeds. 4800 is really "sloooooow".
                              Just to be sure I also used a cheap Chinese FTDI interface: same good results.

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                              • GertSandersG GertSanders

                                @bjacobse

                                I uploaded two boot loaders on a pro mini 3V3 version with 8Mhz resonator.

                                On this board I loaded a boot loader for 1MHz clock frequency and upload speed of 9600 baud. This worked fine. Then I tried the 4800 baud upload speed version: same thing. Both boot loaders uploaded fine, and I was able to load sketches on both with an Adafruit FTDI friend at the specified upload speeds. 4800 is really "sloooooow".
                                Just to be sure I also used a cheap Chinese FTDI interface: same good results.

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                                bjacobse
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                                #103

                                @GertSanders
                                Thank you Gert for checking with Arduino Pro Mini 8Mhz 3V3.
                                Then I will try with windows laptop, different FTDI and another cable. something in my current setup is behaving weird

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                                  wrote on last edited by bjacobse
                                  #104

                                  This is strange I tried to use win7 + Arduino IDE 1.6.7, and things are behaving normal, but it's not possible to at the same time, have FTDI + tinyUSB connected on each USB port, it's only working when 1 USB is used. I have 3 pcs Arduino Pro mini, 2 is working as they should. and 1 is only to be flashed with 8 MHZ bootloaders. I will have to look at this Pro Mini in a microscope at work - maybe it's a 5V 16MHz?!?

                                  Something else I use Ubuntu and Arduino IDE 1.6.8. The Arduino IDE is behaing weird.
                                  I now only use the 2 pcs good Arduini Pro Mini, both bootloader flased with tinyUSB and Win7 IDE 1.6.7. with 1MHz 4k8 bootloader. when I use FTDI in Ubuntu IDE 1.6.8 I get error message that upload failed. But is is working.
                                  I can first upload sketch "bare minimum" upload and get error, no LED is flashing in Pro Mini (Expected), then I upload "Blink", upload shows error, but Pro Mini LED is blinking.
                                  so Arduino IDE 1.6.8 in my Ubuntu is uploading sketches with FTDI fine - but shows an Arduino error. So I can flash Gert bootloadesr with windows7 and Arduino 1.6.7 :-)

                                  False error messages from Arduino 1.6.8...

                                  WARNING: Category '' in library UIPEthernet is not valid. Setting to 'Uncategorized'
                                  
                                  Sketch uses 1,060 bytes (3%) of program storage space. Maximum is 32,256 bytes.
                                  Global variables use 9 bytes (0%) of dynamic memory, leaving 2,039 bytes for local variables. Maximum is 2,048 bytes.
                                  avrdude: stk500_recv(): programmer is not responding
                                  Problem uploading to board.  See http://www.arduino.cc/en/Guide/Troubleshooting#upload for suggestions.
                                  

                                  Now I have to try to verify if my Ubuntu can flash bootloader with tinyUSB

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                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #105

                                    My Ubuntu won't let me successfully flash a 1MHz bootloader, only 8MHz with speed 38k4, it's not working with 8MHz 9k6 either,
                                    but at least I can also confirm that Gert's bootloaders are working as they shall, since it's working for me using windows7 laptop

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                                      #106

                                      when I run the below command in Ubuntu I can flash the bootloader

                                      sudo avrdude -c usbtiny -p m328p -U flash:w:optiboot_atmega328_01M_009600_NOLED.hex  -U lfuse:w:0x62:m -U hfuse:w:0xDE:m -U efuse:w:0x07:m
                                      
                                      

                                      And then I can use the Arduino IDE and upload sketch with settings for 1MHz external 9k6 BOD=1V8

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                                      • bjacobseB bjacobse

                                        when I run the below command in Ubuntu I can flash the bootloader

                                        sudo avrdude -c usbtiny -p m328p -U flash:w:optiboot_atmega328_01M_009600_NOLED.hex  -U lfuse:w:0x62:m -U hfuse:w:0xDE:m -U efuse:w:0x07:m
                                        
                                        

                                        And then I can use the Arduino IDE and upload sketch with settings for 1MHz external 9k6 BOD=1V8

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                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #107

                                        @bjacobse
                                        Efuse 0x07 actually means no Brown Out Detection. Should save you some nano Amperes during operation.

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                                          #108

                                          @GertSanders

                                          Hi, and thanks for your amazing work! I am trying to make your Narrow node with a Atmega 328P-PU and the pcb you made. I have low understanding of how I am going to upload "optiboot_atmega328_08M_038400_D6.hex" via a arduino uno.. Do I need to make anything with fuses or so? And how do I do it if that is the case?

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