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  • skywatchS skywatch

    @frydrik You don't really need to be a "C++ programmer" to use mysensors. There are a lot of examples that you can learnn from and modify to your needs.

    That said I am impressed that a Russian speaker is getting on with this in such a fast way. :)

    I hope I don't upset anyone with this, but I still think of mysensors as an amateur/home project.... A learning adventure if you think of it like that. I don't consider it a commercial ready application for large scale implementation.

    That is of course just my experience and opinion based on many years using it. Your opinion may be different to mine, but the only way to know is to learn, try, fail, develop and try again...... ;)

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    @skywatch Hello, I am from the Republic of Moldova, I am a Romanian speaker, I also learned the Russian language, My country is the poorest country in Europe. I am also trying to implement this remote meter reading project as a pilot project, on my own account, I have no funding here, I have to implement it myself without any resources. so I can't say this is a commercial project

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      @skywatch Hello, I am from the Republic of Moldova, I am a Romanian speaker, I also learned the Russian language, My country is the poorest country in Europe. I am also trying to implement this remote meter reading project as a pilot project, on my own account, I have no funding here, I have to implement it myself without any resources. so I can't say this is a commercial project

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      @frydrik OK, so with no funding the only option is to educate yourself little-by-little.

      Build a small test system and keep trying it in new locations to see how it goes. Learning by doing is the best and quickest way I think.

      Have you considered that signals might be hacked, spoofed or jammed? How will you mitigate such things?

      What you want to do may seem simple at first, but there is a lot to think about with such big ambitions.

      There is no easy short cut - try things for yourself and if you have problems then post them here and I am sure many people will try and help you.

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      • skywatchS skywatch

        @frydrik OK, so with no funding the only option is to educate yourself little-by-little.

        Build a small test system and keep trying it in new locations to see how it goes. Learning by doing is the best and quickest way I think.

        Have you considered that signals might be hacked, spoofed or jammed? How will you mitigate such things?

        What you want to do may seem simple at first, but there is a lot to think about with such big ambitions.

        There is no easy short cut - try things for yourself and if you have problems then post them here and I am sure many people will try and help you.

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        frydrik
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        @skywatch Hi, thank you very much for the encouragement, I will try to document the steps I did with pictures with schemes, but I will also think about security.

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          skywatch
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          #36

          @frydrik My approach would be to make one gateway and one node only. It will simplify testing and speed it up a lot!

          Decide which bootloader you will use and why (the below list will impact that decision).

          Learn how to burn a bootloader and when successful move on to....

          Get the code working.

          Then add soft or hard signing to messages if you think you need to.
          Then add encryption to messages if you think you need to.
          Then add wireless firmware updates (FOTA) if you think you need to.

          Then, when you have it all as you want it is easy to duplicate it very quickly to lots of nodes. And test again.

          Also I suggest manually assigning node ID's as when power goes off they will all come back with the same ID, not randomly assigned ones.

          Always save a modified sketch with a new name or verison so if things don't go well you can go back to the last working version.

          It is very likely that you will hit many obsticals along the way. You need to remain focused and determined to do what you want. Be warned that it's going to take some time.

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          • skywatchS skywatch

            @frydrik My approach would be to make one gateway and one node only. It will simplify testing and speed it up a lot!

            Decide which bootloader you will use and why (the below list will impact that decision).

            Learn how to burn a bootloader and when successful move on to....

            Get the code working.

            Then add soft or hard signing to messages if you think you need to.
            Then add encryption to messages if you think you need to.
            Then add wireless firmware updates (FOTA) if you think you need to.

            Then, when you have it all as you want it is easy to duplicate it very quickly to lots of nodes. And test again.

            Also I suggest manually assigning node ID's as when power goes off they will all come back with the same ID, not randomly assigned ones.

            Always save a modified sketch with a new name or verison so if things don't go well you can go back to the last working version.

            It is very likely that you will hit many obsticals along the way. You need to remain focused and determined to do what you want. Be warned that it's going to take some time.

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            frydrik
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            @skywatch
            Hi, now I do, I have 1 gate and 3 nodes, I have already connected 1 node to a test meter, now I choose the same data that is displayed on the meter screen and MYCONTROLLER, node ID I install it manually, now I want to test at what maximum distance can the connection between the gate and the node be made, the gate is made on TTGO LoRa32 SX1276 OLED and the test node also TTGO LoRa32 SX1276 OLED, the other 2 nodes are nodemcu esp8266 + RFM95, they have standard antennas that do not inspire me much confidence , I want to try to build other antennas to see the difference between the standard antenna and the one I made, then I want to solve the problem with bootloader for FOTA, I think to create the nodes from nodemcu esp8266 + RFM95 because I want to connect to a node several counters from 2-6-8, because arduino Pro Mini / Nano no more than 2 interrupts esp8266 all gpio can be as interrupt, here I think how to do bootloader for FOTA.!!
            my test stand:
            P01019-092719.jpg

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              RagoTube
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              Hi friends, in the above "The Radio Communication" topic I see these lines "You can also send messages directly between two nodes in the network without transiting through the gateway. For example, your outside temperature sensor can send its data directly to another sensor in your kitchen with an attached display."
              This is what I am struggling to achieve , please help me with an Example Sketch for both sender and receiver for the above setup and it will be a great start for me to explore the excellent features of MySensors IoT.

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              • RagoTubeR RagoTube

                Hi friends, in the above "The Radio Communication" topic I see these lines "You can also send messages directly between two nodes in the network without transiting through the gateway. For example, your outside temperature sensor can send its data directly to another sensor in your kitchen with an attached display."
                This is what I am struggling to achieve , please help me with an Example Sketch for both sender and receiver for the above setup and it will be a great start for me to explore the excellent features of MySensors IoT.

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                jkandasa
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                @RagoTube examples are there in,

                • https://github.com/mysensors/MySensors/tree/development/examples
                • https://github.com/mysensors/MySensorsArduinoExamples

                The following sketch can help you to get your setup,
                https://github.com/mysensors/MySensors/blob/development/examples/Node2Node/Node2Node.ino

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                • J jkandasa

                  @RagoTube examples are there in,

                  • https://github.com/mysensors/MySensors/tree/development/examples
                  • https://github.com/mysensors/MySensorsArduinoExamples

                  The following sketch can help you to get your setup,
                  https://github.com/mysensors/MySensors/blob/development/examples/Node2Node/Node2Node.ino

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                  @jkandasa Hi, thank you, I am a newbie, please advice what are the changes to be done to use Node2Node, to receive data from a sender and display on a LCD or OLED please. I am finding difficult only on the Receiver side, please help.
                  With Great Regards,

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                  • RagoTubeR RagoTube

                    @jkandasa Hi, thank you, I am a newbie, please advice what are the changes to be done to use Node2Node, to receive data from a sender and display on a LCD or OLED please. I am finding difficult only on the Receiver side, please help.
                    With Great Regards,

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                    jkandasa
                    Plugin Developer
                    wrote on last edited by jkandasa
                    #41

                    @RagoTube
                    Note: I didn't test this code. I believe it should work.

                    Sender node

                    #define MY_DEBUG
                    #define MY_RADIO_RF24
                    #define MY_NODE_ID 21
                    
                    #define DISPLAY_NODE_ID 0
                    
                    #define TEMPERATURE_SENSOR_ID 0
                    
                    #include "MySensors.h"
                    
                    // triggering interval
                    static const uint32_t trigger_ms = 10000; // 10 seconds
                    
                    uint32_t lastTrigger = 0;
                    MyMessage msgGeneral(TEMPERATURE_SENSOR_ID, V_TEMP);
                    
                    void setup() {
                    }
                    
                    void presentation() {
                      sendSketchInfo("Temperature node 1", "1.0");
                      present(TEMPERATURE_SENSOR_ID, S_TEMP, "Temperature");
                    }
                    
                    void loop() {
                      if (millis() - lastTrigger > trigger_ms) {
                        lastTrigger = millis();
                        // set destination address
                        msgGeneral.setDestination(DISPLAY_NODE_ID);
                        
                        // get temperature from your temperature sensor
                        float lastTemperature = 0.0; // update from your sensor
                    
                        // send message to display node
                        send(msgGeneral.set(lastTemperature));
                      }
                    }
                    

                    Display node (Gateway node)

                    #define MY_DEBUG
                    #define MY_RADIO_RF24
                    #define MY_GATEWAY_SERIAL
                    
                    #define TEMPERATURE_SENSOR_ID 0
                    #define TEMPERATURE_NODE_ID 21
                    
                    #include "MySensors.h"
                    
                    float lastTemperature = 0.0;
                    
                    void presentation() {
                      sendSketchInfo("Display node / Gateway", "1.0");
                    }
                    
                    void setup() {
                    }
                    
                    void loop() {
                    }
                    
                    void updateDisplay() {
                      // update your display with "lastTemperature"
                    }
                    
                    void receive(const MyMessage &message) {
                      if (message.sender == TEMPERATURE_NODE_ID) { // message from temperature node
                        if (message.sensor == TEMPERATURE_SENSOR_ID && message.type == V_TEMP) { // message from temperature sensor
                          lastTemperature = message.getFloat();
                          updateDisplay(); // update display
                        }
                      }
                    }
                    
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                      RagoTube
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                      Thank you so much and very kind of you. I will try this.

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                        RagoTube
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                        Hai jkandasa, It works fine, thank you so much for your examples and it cleared lot my doubts. Thanks again, you have given me good start.

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                          RagoTube
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                          Hi, I missed to notice that, it works as long as the Gateway is ON, when I turn off the Gateway it stops receiving the data. I assumed that your example "Node2Node" code will work with out a Gateway in between. Please advice.

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                            Hi, I missed to notice that, it works as long as the Gateway is ON, when I turn off the Gateway it stops receiving the data. I assumed that your example "Node2Node" code will work with out a Gateway in between. Please advice.

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                            jkandasa
                            Plugin Developer
                            wrote on last edited by jkandasa
                            #45

                            @RagoTube looks like we need a gateway in a sensor network and with the help of gateway node-node communication can happen. The beauty of MySensors gateway is, you can use your gateway as a node.
                            I just updated my example shown here. Now the display node is a gateway node.

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                              RagoTube
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                              #46

                              Thanks again for your immediate advice. It should be OK now.

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