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💬 Connecting the Radio

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  • maghacM maghac

    Is it possible to change any of the radio pins 9, 10, 11 to something else? The reason is that I'd like to use 4 PWM pins and currently I only have pins 3,5,6 available on my Pro Mini.

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    #118

    @maghac yes. Redefining for example the nss/cs pin is possible as described on the connecting the radio page.

    For more exact i structions we'd need to know which radio you are using.

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      Thanks - I use NRF24 radios.

      I found MY_RF24_CE_PIN which I redefined to pin 8 which worked absolutely fine.

      The problem I have now is that now cannot use the Newbie PCB anymore :cold_sweat: :wink:

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      • maghacM maghac

        Thanks - I use NRF24 radios.

        I found MY_RF24_CE_PIN which I redefined to pin 8 which worked absolutely fine.

        The problem I have now is that now cannot use the Newbie PCB anymore :cold_sweat: :wink:

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        @maghac doh!
        How about using a software pwm library instead? I have not tried any, but I have seen this before: https://github.com/Palatis/arduino-softpwm

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        • maghacM maghac

          Thanks - I use NRF24 radios.

          I found MY_RF24_CE_PIN which I redefined to pin 8 which worked absolutely fine.

          The problem I have now is that now cannot use the Newbie PCB anymore :cold_sweat: :wink:

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          sundberg84
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          @maghac cut the trace with a small knife and re-attach it with a wire.

          Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
          MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
          MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
          RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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          • mfalkviddM mfalkvidd

            @maghac doh!
            How about using a software pwm library instead? I have not tried any, but I have seen this before: https://github.com/Palatis/arduino-softpwm

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            @mfalkvidd Maybe I'll give that a try.

            I think FOTA will fail as the bootloader will try to initialise the radio with the default pin, right? Then I'll need software pwm or recompile my own bootloader.

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            • maghacM maghac

              @mfalkvidd Maybe I'll give that a try.

              I think FOTA will fail as the bootloader will try to initialise the radio with the default pin, right? Then I'll need software pwm or recompile my own bootloader.

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              @maghac or go for dual optiboot

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              • gohanG gohan

                @maghac or go for dual optiboot

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                @gohan But then I would need additional hardware to use DualOptiBoot?

                Anyone have any quick instructions on how to build a new custom version of MySensorsBootLoader using MY_RF24_CE_PIN = 8 :wink:

                I have access to ArduinoIDE on Windows or a Ubuntu 16.04 box.

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                • maghacM maghac

                  @gohan But then I would need additional hardware to use DualOptiBoot?

                  Anyone have any quick instructions on how to build a new custom version of MySensorsBootLoader using MY_RF24_CE_PIN = 8 :wink:

                  I have access to ArduinoIDE on Windows or a Ubuntu 16.04 box.

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                  #125

                  @maghac yes, an spi flash chip. It is not a bad solution since the firmware is transferred during normal node operation and if it fails nothing bad happens.

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                  • gohanG gohan

                    @maghac yes, an spi flash chip. It is not a bad solution since the firmware is transferred during normal node operation and if it fails nothing bad happens.

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                    #126

                    @maghac - EasyPCB rev 10 will probably include spi flash ;)

                    Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                    MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                    MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                    RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                      #127

                      It might be an idea for the "connecting the radio" page on MySensors to point to these handy boards:
                      https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-shipping-Nano-328P-IO-wireless-sensor-expansion-board-for-XBEE-and-NRF24L01-Socket-for-arduino/32298692903.html

                      Then people have to just plug in the NRF24 boards. And it also makes it much easier to connect lots of sensors. I wish I had known about these boards earlier, it would have saved me a lot of time.

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                        #128

                        It depends if you want to go with the nano or the pro mini like many nodes use

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                          #129

                          Just noticed, that MySensors 2.2 changed default RF24 CS pin on Mega2560 from pin 10 to pin 53 (SS) :/ I could not find any reference to the change from 2.2 change log nor from pull request (722)... No wonder RF24 worked with 2.1.1 but not with 2.2 on M2560.
                          Contrary to instruction above, I wanted to continue with old pins (same as on Uno) and set the pins explicitly to MY_RF24_CE_PIN=9 & MY_RF24_CS_PIN=10. Now transport seems quite good (with combined HW and SW ack, static GW address, no routers) :)

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                          • KimmoHopK KimmoHop

                            Just noticed, that MySensors 2.2 changed default RF24 CS pin on Mega2560 from pin 10 to pin 53 (SS) :/ I could not find any reference to the change from 2.2 change log nor from pull request (722)... No wonder RF24 worked with 2.1.1 but not with 2.2 on M2560.
                            Contrary to instruction above, I wanted to continue with old pins (same as on Uno) and set the pins explicitly to MY_RF24_CE_PIN=9 & MY_RF24_CS_PIN=10. Now transport seems quite good (with combined HW and SW ack, static GW address, no routers) :)

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                            #130

                            @kimmohop thanks for reporting. Looks like the change was introduced in commit b132a8a81e2ba6c81bcc6e2afce7513cdddbe193. I have added a message to the release notes.

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                              #131

                              @gohan perhaps it can be added to the buying advice page? There the Nano is advised.

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                              • alowhumA alowhum

                                @gohan perhaps it can be added to the buying advice page? There the Nano is advised.

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                                @alowhum which of the buing pages are you referring to? https://www.mysensors.org/store/buying_guide has the pro mini.

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                                  @mfalkvidd: Yes that's the page I'm referring to.

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                                  • alowhumA alowhum

                                    @mfalkvidd: Yes that's the page I'm referring to.

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                                    #134

                                    @alowhum I'm confused. Could you clarify what you want us to change on that page?

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                                      Add a link to: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-shipping-Nano-328P-IO-wireless-sensor-expansion-board-for-XBEE-and-NRF24L01-Socket-for-arduino/32298692903.html

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                                        While you're at it: maybe tell people about the NRF52 option?

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                                        • alowhumA alowhum

                                          Add a link to: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-shipping-Nano-328P-IO-wireless-sensor-expansion-board-for-XBEE-and-NRF24L01-Socket-for-arduino/32298692903.html

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                                          #137

                                          @alowhum thanks. That does indeed look lika nifty solution. I'll add it.

                                          For the nrf5x, I don't know which boards are user-friendly, and I haven't understood if MySensors nrf5x support is "production ready" yet or if it requires people to tweak or otherwise do special stuff to get a node working. I don't think I have seen anyone building nrf5x MySensors nodes yet.

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