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  • tbowmoT Offline
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    @gadu

    An initial product page is up at iteadstudio : http://imall.iteadstudio.com/mysensors-micro.html

    We are working on updating product description etc.

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      #291

      FYI - ITead is already taking preorders for the board.

      Veralite UI5 :: IBoard Ethernet GW :: MyS 1.5

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      • Roberto BrunialtiR Offline
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        Hi, I have ordered some boards from Itead. Just some doubts: is the board a 5v or a 3.3? what's about nrf24 decoupling capacitor? May I assume the nrf24 is correctly powered at 3.3 V by the board?
        Sorry but i'm on the "soft" side more than the "hard" ...:-)

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        • Roberto BrunialtiR Roberto Brunialti

          Hi, I have ordered some boards from Itead. Just some doubts: is the board a 5v or a 3.3? what's about nrf24 decoupling capacitor? May I assume the nrf24 is correctly powered at 3.3 V by the board?
          Sorry but i'm on the "soft" side more than the "hard" ...:-)

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          @Roberto-Brunialti The board is "2XAA" battery, in other words; 3V. Some components on the board won't survive 5V so it is important not to use that voltage. Decoupling for the radio is onboard.

          Do you feel secure today? No? Start requiring some signatures and feel better tomorrow ;)

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            #294

            The board has it's "own" thread as of now:
            http://forum.mysensors.org/topic/1345/sensebender-micro

            Do you feel secure today? No? Start requiring some signatures and feel better tomorrow ;)

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            • Roberto BrunialtiR Offline
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              #295

              that ìs fine for me!

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              • Frank HerrmannF Offline
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                #296

                Hi, i ordered some boards from OSHPark and at the weekend i solder this thing together. Here a pic from my work :)

                IMG_3099.JPG - Windows Photo Viewer 2015-05-11 10.11.04.png

                Ok, it's work. You see, i have old nrf24 Modules they have not the same pinout, but i ordered some here in germany.

                Some points to the design:

                • this pcb has on both sides small SMD Components, that very hard to solder. I solder my one with an IR Oven and can only solder one side. It's mostly ok becouse on the second size i can solder with an iron, but never 04 components :)
                • the size of smd components are too small, i understand this when you use the small Atemag328p MLF and only 04 components. Better are 0603 or 0805.

                Ok, enough ... the board are great and give me a lot of ideas to my board. my are a small bigger but use the nrf24l01+ SMD version and a normal arduino pro mini. Please have a look:

                1 Board - C__Users_D063239_ownCloud_Xambi_Xambi_kids_PROTOTYPE_xambikid_mini_pro_Arduino-Pro-Mini-xkid.brd - EAGLE 7.2.0 Light 2015-05-11 10.22.13.png

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                • Frank HerrmannF Frank Herrmann

                  Hi, i ordered some boards from OSHPark and at the weekend i solder this thing together. Here a pic from my work :)

                  IMG_3099.JPG - Windows Photo Viewer 2015-05-11 10.11.04.png

                  Ok, it's work. You see, i have old nrf24 Modules they have not the same pinout, but i ordered some here in germany.

                  Some points to the design:

                  • this pcb has on both sides small SMD Components, that very hard to solder. I solder my one with an IR Oven and can only solder one side. It's mostly ok becouse on the second size i can solder with an iron, but never 04 components :)
                  • the size of smd components are too small, i understand this when you use the small Atemag328p MLF and only 04 components. Better are 0603 or 0805.

                  Ok, enough ... the board are great and give me a lot of ideas to my board. my are a small bigger but use the nrf24l01+ SMD version and a normal arduino pro mini. Please have a look:

                  1 Board - C__Users_D063239_ownCloud_Xambi_Xambi_kids_PROTOTYPE_xambikid_mini_pro_Arduino-Pro-Mini-xkid.brd - EAGLE 7.2.0 Light 2015-05-11 10.22.13.png

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                  @Frank-Herrmann

                  looks nice. And yes, I know that 0603 is prefered for home soldering. However, as we are going to get this SMD assembled in china, there is no problem in using 0402 components.

                  Also, if I where to use 0603 (or 0804 for that matter), the board would be bigger.

                  I am working on another pcb now (a GW for mysensors), where I am going for 0603, as I don't have the same size restrictions, as I had when doing this board. This will also be double sided (so far anyways, might change it down the road)

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                  • tbowmoT tbowmo

                    And now the components arrived :d

                    2014-12-17 20.13.06-2.jpg

                    Just miss one capacitor, which is out of stock at Mouser. Got a notice that they will get it in stok again in March 2015! So I'll have to see if I can find an alternative (It was decoupling for the radio).

                    Hopefully I get some time off to do the first board friday evening.

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                    @tbowmo what type of capacitors do you use for the sensebender? The 100nf are ceramic I suppose, but what about the 4.7uf for radio?

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                      @Magnus-Pernemark

                      It's all ceramics.. (also the 4.7uF for radio)

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