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DS18B20 ans SHT31-D show up as combined sensors on Domoticz

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  • palande.vaibhavP palande.vaibhav

    Hello all,
    I have built a node with total of 9 sensors.

    Two of them are DS18B20 (Temperature) and SHT31-D(Temperature and Humidity) from adafruit. In Domoticz they show up as combined sensors. DS18B20 is combined with the Humidity from SHT31-D and another sensor shows up with SHT31-D temperature and Humidity combined.
    How can I make them show up as separate Temperature and Humidity sensors?
    I want DS18B20, Temperature from SHT31-D and Humidity from SHT31-D all as separate sensors. I am presenting all of them as separate child sensors.

    I will really appreciate the help.

    Thank You,
    Vaibhav

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    chrille
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    @palande.vaibhav I agree this is very annoying. I have several nodes with a Si7021 and a DS18B20, where the DS18B20 is located some distance from the node (for instance in a freezer or outdoor). This means that the humidity measured by the Si7021 might be vastly different from the humidity where the DS18B20 is located
    I wonder if it would make sense to implement a NODEID_ALIAS (or NODEID_VIRTUAL) in MySensors, so a node could actually present itself as two (or more node ID's), so some sensors/children would belong to the main NODEID and other sensors could belong to another (virtual) NODEID - for the home automation system it would look like two different nodes

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    • chrilleC chrille

      @palande.vaibhav I agree this is very annoying. I have several nodes with a Si7021 and a DS18B20, where the DS18B20 is located some distance from the node (for instance in a freezer or outdoor). This means that the humidity measured by the Si7021 might be vastly different from the humidity where the DS18B20 is located
      I wonder if it would make sense to implement a NODEID_ALIAS (or NODEID_VIRTUAL) in MySensors, so a node could actually present itself as two (or more node ID's), so some sensors/children would belong to the main NODEID and other sensors could belong to another (virtual) NODEID - for the home automation system it would look like two different nodes

      • Jan
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      palande.vaibhav
      wrote on last edited by
      #10

      @chrille
      Hello,
      This is indeed very annoying.
      I am going to try what @AWI has suggested. Presenting sensors in sequence and then spacing them apart when presenting to see what this new feature in Domoticz does.
      Can you also try this? and report here? That would be really helpful.

      Thank You

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      • palande.vaibhavP palande.vaibhav

        @chrille
        Hello,
        This is indeed very annoying.
        I am going to try what @AWI has suggested. Presenting sensors in sequence and then spacing them apart when presenting to see what this new feature in Domoticz does.
        Can you also try this? and report here? That would be really helpful.

        Thank You

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        chrille
        wrote on last edited by
        #11

        @palande.vaibhav said:

        I am going to try what @AWI has suggested. Presenting sensors in sequence and then spacing them apart when presenting to see what this new feature in Domoticz does.
        Can you also try this? and report here? That would be really helpful.

        Yes, I'll test as soon as time permits and report back

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        • chrilleC chrille

          @palande.vaibhav I agree this is very annoying. I have several nodes with a Si7021 and a DS18B20, where the DS18B20 is located some distance from the node (for instance in a freezer or outdoor). This means that the humidity measured by the Si7021 might be vastly different from the humidity where the DS18B20 is located
          I wonder if it would make sense to implement a NODEID_ALIAS (or NODEID_VIRTUAL) in MySensors, so a node could actually present itself as two (or more node ID's), so some sensors/children would belong to the main NODEID and other sensors could belong to another (virtual) NODEID - for the home automation system it would look like two different nodes

          • Jan
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          AWI
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          wrote on last edited by AWI
          #12

          @palande-vaibhav @chrille agree that it is not the most userfriendly feature and solution, at least there is a work around. To summarize (my understanding) of the feature:

          • enumeration of the sensor is only increased if a sensor of the same type is presented.
          • combination only takes place if supported (i.e. Temp/ Hum/ Baro)
          • if you don't want sensors combined make sure to present them in the right order (takes a little puzzling ;) )

          The iissue and discussion on the Domoticz git. There are some examples there also.

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          • AWIA AWI

            @palande-vaibhav @chrille agree that it is not the most userfriendly feature and solution, at least there is a work around. To summarize (my understanding) of the feature:

            • enumeration of the sensor is only increased if a sensor of the same type is presented.
            • combination only takes place if supported (i.e. Temp/ Hum/ Baro)
            • if you don't want sensors combined make sure to present them in the right order (takes a little puzzling ;) )

            The iissue and discussion on the Domoticz git. There are some examples there also.

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            palande.vaibhav
            wrote on last edited by palande.vaibhav
            #13

            @AWI
            Thanks for the info. I will try to implement this today.

            At the end of discssion gizmocuz says that "this is already taken care of, see the forum thread about mysensors/grouping". But I checked Domoticz forum and couldn't find a thread named grouping in mysensors subforum.

            Can you find it? Or its the same one as mentioned in the last comment from issue which takes us here ?

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            • palande.vaibhavP palande.vaibhav

              @AWI
              Thanks for the info. I will try to implement this today.

              At the end of discssion gizmocuz says that "this is already taken care of, see the forum thread about mysensors/grouping". But I checked Domoticz forum and couldn't find a thread named grouping in mysensors subforum.

              Can you find it? Or its the same one as mentioned in the last comment from issue which takes us here ?

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              chrille
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              #14

              @palande.vaibhav said:

              At the end of discssion gizmocuz says that "this is already taken care of, see the forum thread about mysensors/grouping". But I checked Domoticz forum and couldn't find a thread named grouping in mysensors subforum.

              It does seem to work without any changes to the domoticz code. The following is from a node with DS18B20, Si7021 and TSL2561

              1_1476904421404_Skærmbillede 2016-10-19 kl. 21.09.45.png 0_1476904421404_Skærmbillede 2016-10-19 kl. 21.08.24.png

              Child 1+2 is the Si7021 and child 4 is the DS18B20. The enumeration goes from 1 to 2 as soon as a second V_TEMP is presented

              To push it even further - here's a node with a Si7021 + 10x DS18B20

              (MySensors 2.0.1 beta and Domoticz dev from yesterday)

              0_1476904653813_Skærmbillede 2016-10-19 kl. 21.17.07.png

              This node also works fine with Domoticz and only shows the humidity for the first occurance of V_TEMP (which is the Si7021)

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              • chrilleC chrille

                @palande.vaibhav said:

                At the end of discssion gizmocuz says that "this is already taken care of, see the forum thread about mysensors/grouping". But I checked Domoticz forum and couldn't find a thread named grouping in mysensors subforum.

                It does seem to work without any changes to the domoticz code. The following is from a node with DS18B20, Si7021 and TSL2561

                1_1476904421404_Skærmbillede 2016-10-19 kl. 21.09.45.png 0_1476904421404_Skærmbillede 2016-10-19 kl. 21.08.24.png

                Child 1+2 is the Si7021 and child 4 is the DS18B20. The enumeration goes from 1 to 2 as soon as a second V_TEMP is presented

                To push it even further - here's a node with a Si7021 + 10x DS18B20

                (MySensors 2.0.1 beta and Domoticz dev from yesterday)

                0_1476904653813_Skærmbillede 2016-10-19 kl. 21.17.07.png

                This node also works fine with Domoticz and only shows the humidity for the first occurance of V_TEMP (which is the Si7021)

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                palande.vaibhav
                wrote on last edited by
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                @chrille
                I think I also got it to work.
                0_1476918895078_chrome_2016-10-19_16-13-51.png
                0_1476918911877_chrome_2016-10-19_16-13-05.png

                I have DS18B20 which is child 5, SHT31-D temperature is child 6 and Humidity is 7.
                Here child 4, 5, 6 have the same number #4 but they are not grouped, they show up as separate sensors in Devices tab.
                Now I understand why 6 and 7 are in a group but why is child 4 which is a LIGHT also combined with them?

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                • palande.vaibhavP palande.vaibhav

                  @chrille
                  I think I also got it to work.
                  0_1476918895078_chrome_2016-10-19_16-13-51.png
                  0_1476918911877_chrome_2016-10-19_16-13-05.png

                  I have DS18B20 which is child 5, SHT31-D temperature is child 6 and Humidity is 7.
                  Here child 4, 5, 6 have the same number #4 but they are not grouped, they show up as separate sensors in Devices tab.
                  Now I understand why 6 and 7 are in a group but why is child 4 which is a LIGHT also combined with them?

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                  AWI
                  Hero Member
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #16

                  @palande.vaibhav said:

                  why is child 4 which is a LIGHT also combined with them?

                  The numbering algorithm is not specific for the temp/hum/baro sensors but a generic implementation. So it is just a consequence of the implementation although it has no effect (at this moment)

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                  • palande.vaibhavP palande.vaibhav

                    @chrille
                    I think I also got it to work.
                    0_1476918895078_chrome_2016-10-19_16-13-51.png
                    0_1476918911877_chrome_2016-10-19_16-13-05.png

                    I have DS18B20 which is child 5, SHT31-D temperature is child 6 and Humidity is 7.
                    Here child 4, 5, 6 have the same number #4 but they are not grouped, they show up as separate sensors in Devices tab.
                    Now I understand why 6 and 7 are in a group but why is child 4 which is a LIGHT also combined with them?

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                    chrille
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #17

                    @palande.vaibhav said:

                    0_1476918895078_chrome_2016-10-19_16-13-51.png

                    I have DS18B20 which is child 5, SHT31-D temperature is child 6 and Humidity is 7.
                    Here child 4, 5, 6 have the same number #4 but they are not grouped, they show up as separate sensors in Devices tab.

                    I think there's two issue

                    1. Something is wrong with the presentation of child 5 (DS18B20) - it should have value V_TEMP - it's empty
                    2. You need to change the SHT31 code to present temperature before humidiy - else the humidity of the SHT31 would be grouped with the temp from the DS18B20
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                    • chrilleC chrille

                      @palande.vaibhav said:

                      0_1476918895078_chrome_2016-10-19_16-13-51.png

                      I have DS18B20 which is child 5, SHT31-D temperature is child 6 and Humidity is 7.
                      Here child 4, 5, 6 have the same number #4 but they are not grouped, they show up as separate sensors in Devices tab.

                      I think there's two issue

                      1. Something is wrong with the presentation of child 5 (DS18B20) - it should have value V_TEMP - it's empty
                      2. You need to change the SHT31 code to present temperature before humidiy - else the humidity of the SHT31 would be grouped with the temp from the DS18B20
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                      palande.vaibhav
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #18

                      @chrille
                      I noticed it. Made the change and now it works. Thanx for your help.

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                      • palande.vaibhavP palande.vaibhav

                        @chrille
                        I think I also got it to work.
                        0_1476918895078_chrome_2016-10-19_16-13-51.png
                        0_1476918911877_chrome_2016-10-19_16-13-05.png

                        I have DS18B20 which is child 5, SHT31-D temperature is child 6 and Humidity is 7.
                        Here child 4, 5, 6 have the same number #4 but they are not grouped, they show up as separate sensors in Devices tab.
                        Now I understand why 6 and 7 are in a group but why is child 4 which is a LIGHT also combined with them?

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                        rodaman
                        wrote on last edited by
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                        @palande-vaibhav
                        Sorry for the dumb question. How do you achieved different #numbering in Values? I have all my Ds18b20 sensors with #1 number.

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