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    fabiancrg
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    I have a Smappee energy monitor, it's connected to the main input and "detect" the different equipments. It's good to monitor the overall energy consumption and production if you have solar pannels but it's not able to detect everything.
    In summary, it can tell you the consumption of anything with a resistor (electric oven, motor, cofee machine) or a motor (roller shutter, pump,...) but for electronic, PC and other things for which the power consumption is not regular it won't help you much. For this, I think monitoring individual component will be the best.

    But as you probably plus a pwoer meter on each plug, maybe a combintation of both will be a good choice.

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      I use main line snap on current sensors for whole house monitoring, and snap on or hall effect sensors for specific device monitoring when necessary. I use current shunts for high current, low voltage dc monitoring like battery backup or off grid solar power systems.

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        I use main line snap on current sensors for whole house monitoring, and snap on or hall effect sensors for specific device monitoring when necessary. I use current shunts for high current, low voltage dc monitoring like battery backup or off grid solar power systems.

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        @sspence65
        but that way you can only monitor current, not actual power used

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          sspence65
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          I also monitor the voltage (9v transformer and voltage divider) so I am getting current & voltage, and also time, so I can monitor KWh not just KW.

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            I also monitor the voltage (9v transformer and voltage divider) so I am getting current & voltage, and also time, so I can monitor KWh not just KW.

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            kimot
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            @sspence65
            I think too that your method for power metering is better then calculating it from "blinks" of LED of power meter.
            That is good for energy consumption only by counting pulses.
            You can send correct power consumption in each time, which is not possible from blinks.
            And I think in most cases we can assume stable voltage in the power net, so we do not need measure voltage.

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              Samuel235
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              I have just posted my solution so far:

              Forum thread: https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/6460/homini-pulse-meter-monitor
              Openhardware.io: https://www.openhardware.io/view/356/Homini-Pulse-Meter-Monitor#tabs-comments

              The sensor part is designed, currently working on the custom microcontroller board - You're more than welcome to use an arduino or any other solution for a microcontroller module.

              MySensors 2.1.1
              Controller - OpenHAB (Virtual Machine)
              Gateway - Arduino Mega MQTT Gateway W5100

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                @sspence65
                I think too that your method for power metering is better then calculating it from "blinks" of LED of power meter.
                That is good for energy consumption only by counting pulses.
                You can send correct power consumption in each time, which is not possible from blinks.
                And I think in most cases we can assume stable voltage in the power net, so we do not need measure voltage.

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                gohan
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                @kimot
                Actually counting pulses takes advantage of the supposedly accurate measurements of the main power meter instead of making your own. In addition from a safety perspective the less people work directly with 220v, the better.
                IMHO assuming stable voltage it's not correct as it actually fluctuates even over 20V

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                  @kimot
                  Actually counting pulses takes advantage of the supposedly accurate measurements of the main power meter instead of making your own. In addition from a safety perspective the less people work directly with 220v, the better.
                  IMHO assuming stable voltage it's not correct as it actually fluctuates even over 20V

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                  kimot
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                  @gohan
                  Yes, pulse counting is best for energy consumption ( kWh ), but is inapplicable for actual power
                  ( W ) consumption measuring.

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                    @gohan
                    Yes, pulse counting is best for energy consumption ( kWh ), but is inapplicable for actual power
                    ( W ) consumption measuring.

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                    @kimot
                    It depends on the meter: the one we have have 2 LEDs one is for W and the other kWh

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                      @kimot
                      It depends on the meter: the one we have have 2 LEDs one is for W and the other kWh

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                      kimot
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                      @gohan
                      Can you describe function of LED for watt metering, please?
                      I hear about this first time, so I am interested.

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                        Sorry i messed up the units, the first LED is 1 pulse for 1 Wh the other measures VARh

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                          Sorry i messed up the units, the first LED is 1 pulse for 1 Wh the other measures VARh

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                          kimot
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                          @gohan
                          Thanks for info.

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