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software AES encryption for NRF24

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  • tbowmoT Offline
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    tbowmo
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    #13

    Interesting thing that atmel chip. It seems that it's a direct replacement for the onboard flash chip used on the sensebender, pin wise that is. As it's an eeprom, commands might be different than the ones we use for the flash now.

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    • tbowmoT tbowmo

      Interesting thing that atmel chip. It seems that it's a direct replacement for the onboard flash chip used on the sensebender, pin wise that is. As it's an eeprom, commands might be different than the ones we use for the flash now.

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      Anticimex
      Contest Winner
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      #14

      @tbowmo Yes, I also noticed that. Made me space out thinking about the possibilities to replace the SPI flash we currently use for one of the bootloaders OTA solution. And legacy encryption might be so cheap it will fit the bootloader as well as I believe all IO commands to the chip uses the same basic read/write operations so adding a decryption call of a message would not cost may bytes if the IO functions are there anyway.
      It would also mean it is a drop-in replacement for the memory in your upcoming gw as well as my upcoming sensorboard :) And although I don't have the time to indulge myself too much in implementation for the moment, just knowing that it won't require a new PCB is encouraging. And it might also perhaps encourage someone with the time to spare who happened to have a sensebender to do a little rework and test it out :) And if nothing else, I might do it myself eventually. But don't expect it for 2015, and perhaps not even 2016 :( I am then leaving the country and will set up shop in your hood :) and after the dust settles I can start MySensoring more seriously hopefully.

      Do you feel secure today? No? Start requiring some signatures and feel better tomorrow ;)

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      • FotoFieberF Offline
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        FotoFieber
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        wrote on last edited by
        #15

        Compiling AES with an ESP8266 fails. I had to change AES_config.h (in drivers/AES):

        #include <pgmspace.h>

        instead of

        #include <avr/pgmspace.h>

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        • FotoFieberF FotoFieber

          Compiling AES with an ESP8266 fails. I had to change AES_config.h (in drivers/AES):

          #include <pgmspace.h>

          instead of

          #include <avr/pgmspace.h>

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          wrote on last edited by
          #16

          @FotoFieber said:

          Compiling AES with an ESP8266 fails. I had to change AES_config.h (in drivers/AES):

          #include <pgmspace.h>

          instead of

          #include <avr/pgmspace.h>

          Thanks, I'll fix.

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          • hekH hek

            ENC + encrytion + soft-signing fails :(

            Sketch uses 34,244 bytes (106%) of program storage space. Maximum is 32,256 bytes.
            Global variables use 1,912 bytes (93%) of dynamic memory, leaving 136 bytes for local variables. Maximum is 2,048 bytes.

            FotoFieberF Offline
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            wrote on last edited by
            #17

            @hek

            @hek said:

            ENC + encrytion + soft-signing fails :(

            Sketch uses 34,244 bytes (106%) of program storage space. Maximum is 32,256 bytes.
            Global variables use 1,912 bytes (93%) of dynamic memory, leaving 136 bytes for local variables. Maximum is 2,048 bytes.

            Yesterday I made a setup with a ESP8266 gateway and a mega2560 as a secure relay actuator with encryption and signing. There are quite small mega2560 but a sensbender mega2560 would be desireable. :)

            ENC + encryption + soft signing is working! :relaxed:

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            • FotoFieberF FotoFieber

              @hek

              @hek said:

              ENC + encrytion + soft-signing fails :(

              Sketch uses 34,244 bytes (106%) of program storage space. Maximum is 32,256 bytes.
              Global variables use 1,912 bytes (93%) of dynamic memory, leaving 136 bytes for local variables. Maximum is 2,048 bytes.

              Yesterday I made a setup with a ESP8266 gateway and a mega2560 as a secure relay actuator with encryption and signing. There are quite small mega2560 but a sensbender mega2560 would be desireable. :)

              ENC + encryption + soft signing is working! :relaxed:

              AnticimexA Offline
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              Anticimex
              Contest Winner
              wrote on last edited by Anticimex
              #18

              @FotoFieber with a SenseBender, there is no reason for soft signing. It should have a ATSHA204A chip. But nice that you have working setup :)

              Do you feel secure today? No? Start requiring some signatures and feel better tomorrow ;)

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              • AnticimexA Anticimex

                @FotoFieber with a SenseBender, there is no reason for soft signing. It should have a ATSHA204A chip. But nice that you have working setup :)

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                wrote on last edited by
                #19

                @Anticimex said:

                @FotoFieber with a SenseBender, there is no reason for soft signing. It should have a ATSHA204A chip. But nice that you have working setup :)

                Yes, but encryption and ATSHA204A is to big for the SenseBender... :(

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                • FotoFieberF FotoFieber

                  @Anticimex said:

                  @FotoFieber with a SenseBender, there is no reason for soft signing. It should have a ATSHA204A chip. But nice that you have working setup :)

                  Yes, but encryption and ATSHA204A is to big for the SenseBender... :(

                  AnticimexA Offline
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                  Anticimex
                  Contest Winner
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #20

                  @FotoFieber ah. Bummer :(

                  Do you feel secure today? No? Start requiring some signatures and feel better tomorrow ;)

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                  • FotoFieberF FotoFieber

                    @Anticimex said:

                    @FotoFieber with a SenseBender, there is no reason for soft signing. It should have a ATSHA204A chip. But nice that you have working setup :)

                    Yes, but encryption and ATSHA204A is to big for the SenseBender... :(

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                    wrote on last edited by
                    #21

                    @FotoFieber said:

                    @Anticimex said:

                    @FotoFieber with a SenseBender, there is no reason for soft signing. It should have a ATSHA204A chip. But nice that you have working setup :)

                    Yes, but encryption and ATSHA204A is to big for the SenseBender... :(

                    Old thread, but... In the dev branch, there's a RF24 refactor that is much smaller. With that, and removing test-mode, there's plenty of space on the sensebender:

                    #define MY_RADIO_NRF24
                    #define MY_SIGNING_ATSHA204
                    #define MY_SIGNING_REQUEST_SIGNATURES
                    #define MY_SIGNING_NODE_WHITELISTING {{.nodeId = GATEWAY_ADDRESS,.serial = {0xBO,0xGU,0xSK,0xEY,0xZZ,0xFC,0xAD,0x04,0xD1}}}
                    #define MY_OTA_FIRMWARE_FEATURE
                    #define MY_RF24_ENABLE_ENCRYPTION

                    Sketch uses 23,196 bytes (75%) of program storage space. Maximum is 30,720 bytes.
                    Global variables use 1,386 bytes (67%) of dynamic memory, leaving 662 bytes for local variables. Maximum is 2,048 bytes.

                    Even with debug it's only at 91%.

                    My W5100 gateway ends up at 107% with AES though, but it fits (with 592 bytes to spare) if I use a static address instead of DHCP.
                    Serial Gateway ends up at only 65%.

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                    • ximinezX ximinez

                      @FotoFieber said:

                      @Anticimex said:

                      @FotoFieber with a SenseBender, there is no reason for soft signing. It should have a ATSHA204A chip. But nice that you have working setup :)

                      Yes, but encryption and ATSHA204A is to big for the SenseBender... :(

                      Old thread, but... In the dev branch, there's a RF24 refactor that is much smaller. With that, and removing test-mode, there's plenty of space on the sensebender:

                      #define MY_RADIO_NRF24
                      #define MY_SIGNING_ATSHA204
                      #define MY_SIGNING_REQUEST_SIGNATURES
                      #define MY_SIGNING_NODE_WHITELISTING {{.nodeId = GATEWAY_ADDRESS,.serial = {0xBO,0xGU,0xSK,0xEY,0xZZ,0xFC,0xAD,0x04,0xD1}}}
                      #define MY_OTA_FIRMWARE_FEATURE
                      #define MY_RF24_ENABLE_ENCRYPTION

                      Sketch uses 23,196 bytes (75%) of program storage space. Maximum is 30,720 bytes.
                      Global variables use 1,386 bytes (67%) of dynamic memory, leaving 662 bytes for local variables. Maximum is 2,048 bytes.

                      Even with debug it's only at 91%.

                      My W5100 gateway ends up at 107% with AES though, but it fits (with 592 bytes to spare) if I use a static address instead of DHCP.
                      Serial Gateway ends up at only 65%.

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                      wrote on last edited by alexsh1
                      #22

                      @ximinez RF24 refactor - do you mean RF24 inside the MySensors folder? I tried it but still out of luck:

                      Sketch uses 31,396 bytes (102%) of program storage space. Maximum is 30,720 bytes.
                      Global variables use 1,762 bytes (86%) of dynamic memory, leaving 286 bytes for local variables. 
                      
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                      • alexsh1A alexsh1

                        @ximinez RF24 refactor - do you mean RF24 inside the MySensors folder? I tried it but still out of luck:

                        Sketch uses 31,396 bytes (102%) of program storage space. Maximum is 30,720 bytes.
                        Global variables use 1,762 bytes (86%) of dynamic memory, leaving 286 bytes for local variables. 
                        
                        AnticimexA Offline
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                        Anticimex
                        Contest Winner
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #23

                        @alexsh1 from development branch, not master. 2.0.0-beta. Rf24 driver on that branch has been significantly optimized (together with other parts of the library).

                        Do you feel secure today? No? Start requiring some signatures and feel better tomorrow ;)

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                        • AnticimexA Anticimex

                          @alexsh1 from development branch, not master. 2.0.0-beta. Rf24 driver on that branch has been significantly optimized (together with other parts of the library).

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                          alexsh1
                          wrote on last edited by alexsh1
                          #24

                          @Anticimex Thanks for heads up - I think I messed up different versions though I remember unpacking "Arduino-development". I deleted the whole folder and unzipped the files again and voila:

                          Sketch uses 28,228 bytes (91%) of program storage space. Maximum is 30,720 bytes.
                          Global variables use 1,462 bytes (71%) of dynamic memory, leaving 586 bytes for local variables. Maximum is 2,048 bytes.
                          

                          UPDATE: It turned out DEBUG took a lot of memory (DEBUG AND SIGNING DEBUG)

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                          • alexsh1A alexsh1

                            @Anticimex Thanks for heads up - I think I messed up different versions though I remember unpacking "Arduino-development". I deleted the whole folder and unzipped the files again and voila:

                            Sketch uses 28,228 bytes (91%) of program storage space. Maximum is 30,720 bytes.
                            Global variables use 1,462 bytes (71%) of dynamic memory, leaving 586 bytes for local variables. Maximum is 2,048 bytes.
                            

                            UPDATE: It turned out DEBUG took a lot of memory (DEBUG AND SIGNING DEBUG)

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                            Hardware Contributor
                            wrote on last edited by FotoFieber
                            #25

                            @alexsh1
                            @Anticimex

                            Just tried

                            #define MY_RADIO_NRF24
                            #define MY_SIGNING_SOFT
                            #define MY_SIGNING_REQUEST_SIGNATURES
                            #define MY_RF24_ENABLE_ENCRYPTION
                            

                            This was working in the old dev branch but doesn't work for me anymore. Did you have luck with the combination of signing and encryption?

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                            �=�a�WY=��VP����E�P�pStarting repeater (RNNRAS, 2.0.0)
                            TSM:INIT
                            TSM:RADIO:OK
                            TSP:ASSIGNID:OK (ID=15)
                            TSM:FPAR
                            TSP:MSG:SEND 15-15-255-255 s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=bc:
                            TSP:MSG:READ 0-0-15 s=255,c=3,t=8,pt=1,l=1,sg=0:0
                            Skipping security for command 3 type 8
                            TSP:MSG:FPAR RES (ID=0, dist=0)
                            TSP:MSG:PAR OK (ID=0, dist=1)
                            TSM:FPAR:OK
                            TSM:ID
                            TSM:CHKID:OK (ID=15)
                            TSM:UPL
                            TSP:PING:SEND (dest=0)
                            Skipping security for command 3 type 24
                            !TSP:MSG:SEND 15-15-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=24,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=0,st=fail:1
                            TSP:MSG:READ 0-0-15 s=255,c=3,t=25,pt=1,l=1,sg=0:1
                            Skipping security for command 3 type 25
                            TSP:MSG:PONG RECV (hops=1)
                            TSP:CHKUPL:OK
                            TSM:UPL:OK
                            TSM:READY
                            Signing required
                            Skipping security for command 3 type 15
                            !TSP:MSG:SEND 15-15-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=15,pt=6,l=2,sg=0,ft=1,st=fail:0101
                            Failed to transmit signing presentation!Waiting for GW to send signing preferences...
                            TSP:MSG:READ 0-0-15 s=255,c=3,t=15,pt=6,l=2,sg=0:0101
                            Skipping security for command 3 type 15
                            Mark node 0 as one that require signed messages
                            Mark node 0 as one that do not require whitelisting
                            Skipping security for command 3 type 16
                            !TSP:MSG:SEND 15-15-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=16,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=2,st=fail:
                            Failed to transmit nonce request!
                            !TSP:MSG:SIGN fail
                            Skipping security for command 3 type 16
                            !TSP:MSG:SEND 15-15-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=16,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=4,st=fail:
                            Failed to transmit nonce request!
                            !TSP:MSG:SIGN fail
                            TSP:MSG:READ 0-0-15 s=255,c=3,t=17,pt=6,l=25,sg=0:972DE10483D0864680CE821987E5823ABAEF8435F971670F04
                            Skipping security for command 3 type 17
                            Nonce received from 0. Proceeding with signing...
                            Signing backend: ATSHA204Soft
                            Message to process: 0F00060310FF
                            Current nonce: 972DE10483D0864680CE821987E5823ABAEF8435F971670F04AAAAAAAAAAAAAA
                            HMAC: 7922F4E571510EC46BD3CAAF37A1C1627BAE2562BA0ADC210173076854649826
                            Signature in message: 0122F4E571510EC46BD3CAAF37A1C1627BAE2562BA0ADC2101
                            Message signed
                            TSP:MSG:READ 0-0-15 s=255,c=3,t=17,pt=6,l=25,sg=0:59321F17D680FFDC461270BD2C22F77FBC6FF6DE90DD9A34E6
                            Skipping security for command 3 type 17
                            Nonce received from 0. Proceeding with signing...
                            Signing backend: ATSHA204Soft
                            Message to process: 0F00060310FF
                            Current nonce: 59321F17D680FFDC461270BD2C22F77FBC6FF6DE90DD9A34E6AAAAAAAAAAAAAA
                            HMAC: 09031876715AD7ADBC81671982D07A46122D564110C59880AB733AACB111289E
                            Signature in message: 01031876715AD7ADBC81671982D07A46122D564110C59880AB
                            Message signed
                            Skipping security for command 3 type 16
                            !TSP:MSG:SEND 15-15-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=16,pt=0,l=0,sg=1,ft=6,st=fail:
                            Failed to transmit nonce request!
                            !TSP:MSG:SIGN fail
                            Skipping security for command 3 type 16
                            !TSP:MSG:SEND 15-15-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=16,pt=0,l=0,sg=1,ft=8,st=fail:
                            Failed to transmit nonce request!
                            !TSP:MSG:SIGN fail
                            TSP:MSG:READ 0-0-15 s=255,c=3,t=17,pt=6,l=25,sg=1:24AB30408F0D10A7DB4CE357B22C908ED2438638C567DF52AE
                            Skipping security for command 3 type 17
                            Nonce received from 0. Proceeding with signing...
                            Signing backend: ATSHA204Soft
                            Message to process: 0F00060310FF
                            Current nonce: 24AB30408F0D10A7DB4CE357B22C908ED2438638C567DF52AEAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
                            HMAC: C2B0487B88AD8AE2FD7FB63C21E841324ED48975681EB881A7EC556D74637B33
                            Signature in message: 01B0487B88AD8AE2FD7FB63C21E841324ED48975681EB881A7
                            Message signed
                            TSP:MSG:READ 0-0-15 s=255,c=3,t=17,pt=6,l=25,sg=1:4CDF80D7AAF5358B4DA616FBB1556569F68818F331C6C681F3
                            Skipping security for command 3 type 17
                            Nonce received from 0. Proceeding with signing...
                            Signing backend: ATSHA204Soft
                            Message to process: 0F00060310FF
                            Current nonce: 4CDF80D7AAF5358B4DA616FBB1556569F68818F331C6C681F3AAAAAAAAAAAAAA
                            HMAC: C12B5B8BD5EA6DD142908FBB02A06933E3FFBC399876B8B52E30BA9A1A66B4FC
                            Signature in message: 012B5B8BD5EA6DD142908FBB02A06933E3FFBC399876B8B52E
                            Message signed
                            Skipping security for command 3 type 16
                            !TSP:MSG:SEND 15-15-0-0 s=1,c=3,t=16,pt=0,l=0,sg=1,ft=10,st=fail:
                            Failed to transmit nonce request!
                            !TSP:MSG:SIGN fail
                            !TSM:UPL FAIL, SNP
                            TSM:FPAR
                            TSP:MSG:SEND 15-15-255-255 s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=bc:
                            TSP:MSG:READ 0-0-15 s=255,c=3,t=17,pt=6,l=25,sg=1:0EEFA88D4FB45539A0B20C586D989BF510FC83F270ABEC3E2A
                            Skipping security for command 3 type 17
                            Nonce received from 0. Proceeding with signing...
                            Signing backend: ATSHA204Soft
                            Message to process: 0F0006031001
                            Current nonce: 0EEFA88D4FB45539A0B20C586D989BF510FC83F270ABEC3E2AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
                            HMAC: 2AEEC1974BF5ED7DE100A555DD98E420E5CA0C33918F8BEFF3524B1FED047C52
                            Signature in message: 01EEC1974BF5ED7DE100A555DD98E420E5CA0C33918F8BEFF3
                            Message signed
                            TSP:MSG:READ 0-0-15 s=255,c=3,t=8,pt=1,l=1,sg=0:0
                            Skipping security for command 3 type 8
                            TSP:MSG:FPAR RES (ID=0, dist=0)
                            TSP:MSG:PAR OK (ID=0, dist=1)
                            !TSP:SEND:TNR
                            !TSP:SEND:TNR
                            !TSP:SEND:TNR
                            !TSP:SEND:TNR
                            TSM:FPAR:OK
                            TSM:ID
                            TSM:CHKID:OK (ID=15)
                            TSM:UPL
                            TSP:PING:SEND (dest=0)
                            Skipping security for command 3 type 24
                            !TSP:MSG:SEND 15-15-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=24,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=0,st=fail:1
                            TSP:MSG:READ 0-0-15 s=255,c=3,t=25,pt=1,l=1,sg=0:1
                            Skipping security for command 3 type 25
                            TSP:MSG:PONG RECV (hops=1)
                            TSP:CHKUPL:OK
                            TSM:UPL:OK
                            TSM:READY
                            Request registration...
                            Skipping security for command 3 type 26
                            !TSP:MSG:SEND 15-15-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=26,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=1,st=fail:2
                            TSP:MSG:READ 0-0-15 s=255,c=3,t=16,pt=0,l=0,sg=0:
                            Skipping security for command 3 type 16
                            Signing backend: ATSHA204Soft
                            SHA256: 23DD90319EEA644480F44B15B3A95D6B20AD8380A953D40C7600000000000000
                            Skipping security for command 3 type 17
                            !TSP:MSG:SEND 15-15-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=17,pt=6,l=25,sg=0,ft=2,st=fail:23DD90319EEA644480F44B15B3A95D6B20AD8380A953D40C76
                            Failed to transmit nonce!
                            TSP:MSG:READ 0-0-15 s=255,c=3,t=27,pt=1,l=1,sg=1:1
                            Signature in message: 011EA3852B9E54EF00F415B0A6121E25B32B9C5F976A090B
                            Message to process: 000F0E231BFF01
                            Current nonce: 23DD90319EEA644480F44B15B3A95D6B20AD8380A953D40C76AAAAAAAAAAAAAA
                            HMAC: 611EA3852B9E54EF00F415B0A6121E25B32B9C5F976A090BF2C96E0C02F28D72
                            Signature OK
                            Node registration=1
                            Init complete, id=15, parent=0, distance=1, registration=1
                            Skipping security for command 3 type 16
                            !TSP:MSG:SEND 15-15-0-0 s=2,c=3,t=16,pt=0,l=0,sg=1,ft=3,st=fail:
                            Failed to transmit nonce request!
                            !TSP:MSG:SIGN fail
                            TSP:MSG:READ 0-0-15 s=255,c=3,t=17,pt=6,l=25,sg=1:AA800D53018F5EAFCD48C21D3F702501539BFE5DF7E008B204
                            Skipping security for command 3 type 17
                            Nonce received from 0. Proceeding with signing...
                            Signing backend: ATSHA204Soft
                            Message to process: 0F0006031002
                            Current nonce: AA800D53018F5EAFCD48C21D3F702501539BFE5DF7E008B204AAAAAAAAAAAAAA
                            HMAC: 2E1247A4A77CA0767BFD16B9A1FCE401EF39B4D76FA6A96EF0978CE322271A6F
                            Signature in message: 011247A4A77CA0767BFD16B9A1FCE401EF39B4D76FA6A96EF0
                            Message signed
                            Skipping security for command 3 type 16
                            !TSP:MSG:SEND 15-15-0-0 s=3,c=3,t=16,pt=0,l=0,sg=1,ft=5,st=fail:
                            Failed to transmit nonce request!
                            !TSP:MSG:SIGN fail
                            TSP:MSG:READ 0-0-15 s=255,c=3,t=17,pt=6,l=25,sg=1:358C0D190097ABD8AB64BF680AF252EAC6036B73222A854502
                            Skipping security for command 3 type 17
                            Nonce received from 0. Proceeding with signing...
                            Signing backend: ATSHA204Soft
                            Message to process: 0F0006031003
                            Current nonce: 358C0D190097ABD8AB64BF680AF252EAC6036B73222A854502AAAAAAAAAAAAAA
                            HMAC: 4A209EA1B12FB01659122DD26F2F3FB7EC15439DDEFEA90813AA0E8F87321683
                            Signature in message: 01209EA1B12FB01659122DD26F2F3FB7EC15439DDEFEA90813
                            Message signed
                            Ping: 60 cm
                            Skipping security for command 3 type 16
                            !TSP:MSG:SEND 15-15-0-0 s=1,c=3,t=16,pt=0,l=0,sg=1,ft=7,st=fail:
                            Failed to transmit nonce request!
                            !TSP:MSG:SIGN fail
                            TSP:MSG:READ 0-0-15 s=255,c=3,t=17,pt=6,l=25,sg=1:0677F380706F11E12CFC0C43FE9559F36D8FDAEB6854836E06
                            Skipping security for command 3 type 17
                            Nonce received from 0. Proceeding with signing...
                            Signing backend: ATSHA204Soft
                            Message to process: 0F0006031001
                            Current nonce: 0677F380706F11E12CFC0C43FE9559F36D8FDAEB6854836E06AAAAAAAAAAAAAA
                            HMAC: 5E895658E4C08BCE1D6B5FC560D1AA608AB2AEDF9385EA80ABA1EDD8EE003EE5
                            Signature in message: 01895658E4C08BCE1D6B5FC560D1AA608AB2AEDF9385EA80AB
                            Message signed
                            Send button 1 pressed
                            Skipping security for command 3 type 16
                            !TSP:MSG:SEND 15-15-0-0 s=4,c=3,t=16,pt=0,l=0,sg=1,ft=9,st=fail:
                            Failed to transmit nonce request!
                            !TSP:MSG:SIGN fail
                            !TSM:UPL FAIL, SNP
                            TSM:FPAR
                            TSP:MSG:SEND 15-15-255-255 s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=bc:
                            TSP:MSG:READ 0-0-15 s=255,c=3,t=17,pt=6,l=25,sg=1:EE3BFA6BFDD922BB892AC9A1BF2079803D8C3C258B18DFA29B
                            Skipping security for command 3 type 17
                            Nonce received from 0. Proceeding with signing...
                            Signing backend: ATSHA204Soft
                            Message to process: 0F0006031004
                            Current nonce: EE3BFA6BFDD922BB892AC9A1BF2079803D8C3C258B18DFA29BAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
                            HMAC: 7BEF3C478AD984729ED9A2717575A5325E66EF4C0CC9D3D761A1886A4BF4C4FD
                            Signature in message: 01EF3C478AD984729ED9A2717575A5325E66EF4C0CC9D3D761
                            Message signed
                            TSP:MSG:READ 0-0-15 s=255,c=3,t=8,pt=1,l=1,sg=1:0
                            Skipping security for command 3 type 8
                            TSP:MSG:FPAR RES (ID=0, dist=0)
                            TSP:MSG:PAR OK (ID=0, dist=1)
                            !TSP:SEND:TNR
                            TSM:FPAR:OK
                            TSM:ID
                            TSM:CHKID:OK (ID=15)
                            TSM:UPL
                            TSP:PING:SEND (dest=0)
                            Skipping security for command 3 type 24
                            !TSP:MSG:SEND 15-15-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=24,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=0,st=fail:1
                            TSP:MSG:READ 0-0-15 s=255,c=3,t=25,pt=1,l=1,sg=1:1
                            Skipping security for command 3 type 25
                            TSP:MSG:PONG RECV (hops=1)
                            TSP:CHKUPL:OK
                            TSM:UPL:OK
                            TSM:READY
                            Send button 1 pressed
                            Skipping security for command 3 type 16
                            !TSP:MSG:SEND 15-15-0-0 s=4,c=3,t=16,pt=0,l=0,sg=1,ft=1,st=fail:
                            Failed to transmit nonce request!
                            !TSP:MSG:SIGN fail
                            TSP:MSG:READ 0-0-15 s=255,c=3,t=17,pt=6,l=25,sg=1:9069C5ABD4E3E13F19A92D0B708ABB41C809B6D67654357C61
                            Skipping security for command 3 type 17
                            Nonce received from 0. Proceeding with signing...
                            Signing backend: ATSHA204Soft
                            Message to process: 0F0006031004
                            Current nonce: 9069C5ABD4E3E13F19A92D0B708ABB41C809B6D67654357C61AAAAAAAAAAAAAA
                            HMAC: 01CCD77E9CC961B65E896180243DAB5E9174C0B88032D38261ED78BB619A00EF
                            Signature in message: 01CCD77E9CC961B65E896180243DAB5E9174C0B88032D38261
                            Message signed
                            Skipping security for command 3 type 16
                            !TSP:MSG:SEND 15-15-0-0 s=2,c=3,t=16,pt=0,l=0,sg=1,ft=3,st=fail:
                            Failed to transmit nonce request!
                            !TSP:MSG:SIGN fail
                            TSP:MSG:READ 0-0-15 s=255,c=3,t=17,pt=6,l=25,sg=1:1B94EC3D5354C0431C3D49CEC8903433984E2DE5D04F2D00DD
                            Skipping security for command 3 type 17
                            Nonce received from 0. Proceeding with signing...
                            Signing backend: ATSHA204Soft
                            Message to process: 0F0006031002
                            Current nonce: 1B94EC3D5354C0431C3D49CEC8903433984E2DE5D04F2D00DDAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
                            HMAC: D46DFC8ACCEE0FA7E6D282E8556F9EC7659804AD3D33163E9522F7769449F809
                            Signature in message: 016DFC8ACCEE0FA7E6D282E8556F9EC7659804AD3D33163E95
                            Message signed
                            Ping: 61 cm
                            Ping: 60 cm
                            Ping: 60 cm
                            TSP:MSG:READ 12-12-255 s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0:
                            TSP:MSG:BC
                            TSP:MSG:FPAR REQ (sender=12)
                            TSP:PING:SEND (dest=0)
                            Skipping security for command 3 type 24
                            !TSP:MSG:SEND 15-15-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=24,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=5,st=fail:1
                            TSP:MSG:READ 0-0-15 s=255,c=3,t=25,pt=1,l=1,sg=0:1
                            Skipping security for command 3 type 25
                            TSP:MSG:PONG RECV (hops=1)
                            TSP:CHKUPL:OK
                            TSP:MSG:GWL OK
                            TSP:MSG:SEND 15-15-12-12 s=255,c=3,t=8,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=6,st=ok:1
                            Ping: 60 cm
                            
                            
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                              Not sure if it is a typo or now but you list
                              #define MY_SIGNING_ASOFT but it should be #define MY_SIGNING_SOFT

                              In any case, you get st=fail which mean your radio setup is basically not working.
                              For any security to work, messages has to get through, and from your log, they don't:
                              "Failed to transmit signing presentation!"
                              "Failed to transmit nonce request!"
                              So I think from the log that signing and encryption is working, but occasionally you get messages dropped due to a poor radio link which manifests itself as failed transmissions.

                              Do you feel secure today? No? Start requiring some signatures and feel better tomorrow ;)

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                                If implemented correctly, AES is AES; the output between two different implementations is identical, and therefore no distinction is possible in after-the-fact comparison -- if done correctly, the one is exactly the same as the other.

                                But there are a few points where differences can crop in:

                                Operation Mode
                                Truecrypt implements a modified counter mode called XTS. It's pretty well vetted and has withstood some serious abuse from some powerful attackers (such as the US Government).

                                From examining the p7zip source code, it appears that AES encoding for the 7-zip format operates in CBC mode. This is certainly not necessarily insecure; it's the mode most popularly used in protocols such as TLS, but it is potentially vulnerable to padding oracle attacks. See this discussion on operation modes for more information.

                                Key Derivation
                                Truecrypt uses PBKDF2 to turn your password into an encryption key. It's difficult to come up with a better alternative than that. p7zip uses a salted SHA256 hash repeated over a configurable number of iterations. PBKDF2 is a bit more configurable, but 7-zip's alternative is functionally similar and arguably reaches the same goals.

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                                • AnticimexA Anticimex

                                  Not sure if it is a typo or now but you list
                                  #define MY_SIGNING_ASOFT but it should be #define MY_SIGNING_SOFT

                                  In any case, you get st=fail which mean your radio setup is basically not working.
                                  For any security to work, messages has to get through, and from your log, they don't:
                                  "Failed to transmit signing presentation!"
                                  "Failed to transmit nonce request!"
                                  So I think from the log that signing and encryption is working, but occasionally you get messages dropped due to a poor radio link which manifests itself as failed transmissions.

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                                  @Anticimex
                                  Sorry for the typo.

                                  Interestingly, the sketch is working perfect without signing.

                                  I will try to add another power source and try again.

                                  Do you have a working setup with encryption and signing?

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                                    @Anticimex
                                    Sorry for the typo.

                                    Interestingly, the sketch is working perfect without signing.

                                    I will try to add another power source and try again.

                                    Do you have a working setup with encryption and signing?

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                                    @FotoFieber When you use signing, the max message size is used, and this strains the rf link the most. Signing is still not your problem. It is clear from the log that messages fail to transmit, and that is a radio problem.

                                    Do you feel secure today? No? Start requiring some signatures and feel better tomorrow ;)

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                                    • AnticimexA Anticimex

                                      @FotoFieber When you use signing, the max message size is used, and this strains the rf link the most. Signing is still not your problem. It is clear from the log that messages fail to transmit, and that is a radio problem.

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                                      @Anticimex @FotoFieber

                                      We have been through this a few times. Just a suggestion - shall we do an FAQ link explaining what you have just said (st=fail is a problem of radio and not singing). Ingerestingly enough I did not manage to resolve this issue with the Sensebender. I still get several fail to transmit nonce before it starts working fine. Only the Sensebender. All other nodes work flawlessly

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                                        @Anticimex @FotoFieber

                                        We have been through this a few times. Just a suggestion - shall we do an FAQ link explaining what you have just said (st=fail is a problem of radio and not singing). Ingerestingly enough I did not manage to resolve this issue with the Sensebender. I still get several fail to transmit nonce before it starts working fine. Only the Sensebender. All other nodes work flawlessly

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                                        @alexsh1 It is already documented where all signing is documented:
                                        https://ci.mysensors.org/job/Verifiers/job/MySensorsArduino/branch/master/Doxygen_HTML/group__MySigninggrp.html

                                        Check the troubleshooting section for details. Link to all documentation is on the github frontpage and on the "head" post of the signing topic on this forum.

                                        Do you feel secure today? No? Start requiring some signatures and feel better tomorrow ;)

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                                        • AnticimexA Anticimex

                                          @alexsh1 It is already documented where all signing is documented:
                                          https://ci.mysensors.org/job/Verifiers/job/MySensorsArduino/branch/master/Doxygen_HTML/group__MySigninggrp.html

                                          Check the troubleshooting section for details. Link to all documentation is on the github frontpage and on the "head" post of the signing topic on this forum.

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                                          @Anticimex OK, that's super. I think we all became victims of nrf24l01+ terrible fake copies. Some of these work OK until....
                                          Then a woodoo dance has to be performed (highly recommended) in order to make them work again.

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