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  • sundberg84S sundberg84

    @BastienVH - D2 is connected, but at this point not used by the radio (unless its been changed very recently). On the PCB its connected though - so if you want to use this I suggest you do not solder that pin (ie disconnect it) from the PCB and try.

    If your PIR doesnt work you should start there... the cheap PIRS are very power sensitive (feed 5v not 3.3!! (you can modify this but standard is 5v!)) so check the connection with a multimeter. Try to connect only PIR and run a basic sketch to get that one to work. As you said you need to connect them to 2 or 3 if you want to use interrupt.

    Add some serial.println to get info out whats happeing with the PIR.

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    #55

    @sundberg84
    About D2: you mean I shouldn't solder the IRQ of the radio to the board?
    I will try that next time.

    I've been testing the PIR with a nano and the 3.3V it supplies and that works fine.
    If I take VCC or ground (or both) from the board with booster, the PIR starts acting up.
    I guess I'll have to try some more if I want to get to the bottom of things.

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      sundberg84
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      @BastienVH I have tried the normal china-pir (HC-SR501) on 3.3v and it does not work very well. I got random on/off or just strange behaivour. See specs! Voltage is 5V – 20V if you dont modify it (there are some threads on the forum).

      The easiest way is to remove the pin for D2 on the arduino pinhead.

      Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
      MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
      MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
      RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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        #57

        @sundberg84 Any idea why I've received a "2nd version" of your Rev.8 from PCBWay for free? By free I mean that I bought 10x your Rev.8 about 2 months ago (Black in the photo), but today I've got a package from China and when I opened I got that other PCB that I haven't ordered :confused:
        I don't see any changes regarding the radio capacitor. Any clue? 0_1465478705931_IMG_6741.jpg

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          #58

          @danivalencia - sorry for late reply, I think @hek can help you. Give him a chat about this.

          Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
          MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
          MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
          RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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          • sundberg84S sundberg84

            @danivalencia - sorry for late reply, I think @hek can help you. Give him a chat about this.

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            @sundberg84 No worry, I talked with hek and he finded that was a pcbway mistake. BTW...very good job with the PCB, I'm using it with a lot of my sensors :wink:

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              Lior Rubin
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              #60

              Hi there !

              @sundberg84 very nice job ! :)
              is there any plan to fit the board for the Arduino Nano (5V) ?

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                wrote on last edited by sundberg84
                #61

                @Lior-Rubin - Not at this point.
                What would be the benefits compared to Pro Mini?
                Nano can only handle 5v input and not 3.3.

                Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                • sundberg84S sundberg84

                  @Lior-Rubin - Not at this point.
                  What would be the benefits compared to Pro Mini?
                  Nano can only handle 5v input and not 3.3.

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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #62

                  @sundberg84 Nothing special behalf of the face that it easier to program it (it has mini USB onboard).

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                    #63

                    @Lior-Rubin Yes - you are right, the Nano is easier.
                    But I want to stick with the pro mini and the advantages with both a 3.3 and a 5v version for both battery operations and regulated power. You are free if you like to modify my design to your wish and add a Nano instead. If you need any help just ask!

                    Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                    MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                    MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                    RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                    • sundberg84S sundberg84

                      @Lior-Rubin Yes - you are right, the Nano is easier.
                      But I want to stick with the pro mini and the advantages with both a 3.3 and a 5v version for both battery operations and regulated power. You are free if you like to modify my design to your wish and add a Nano instead. If you need any help just ask!

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                      @sundberg84 Thanks, I'll try to play with the Pro Mini :)
                      BTW - can you recommend for good supplier from eBay\AliExpress\Etc. ?

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                        wrote on last edited by sundberg84
                        #65

                        @Lior-Rubin - For components i pretty much use the links from www.mysensors.com/store
                        Dont forget to order a fdti programmer :)

                        Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                        MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                        MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                        RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                        • sundberg84S sundberg84

                          @Lior-Rubin - For components i pretty much use the links from www.mysensors.com/store
                          Dont forget to order a fdti programmer :)

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                          #66

                          @sundberg84 I have all these ... I meant for the Pro Mini 3.3V that you used in your design.
                          I ordered some from Chinese supplier but the board was damaged ( cannot upload sketches to them).

                          where did you get yours ?

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                            sundberg84
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                            @Lior-Rubin - 3 batches from china, link in mysensor store - worked great for me.

                            Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                            MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                            MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                            RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                              Hi, I have received the PCBs, it is good help.
                              (3.3v mini with battery powering)
                              I have wiring problem. How could I connect radio's power input to boosted powering source to get stable 3.3v?
                              thanks

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                              • BarnaB Barna

                                Hi, I have received the PCBs, it is good help.
                                (3.3v mini with battery powering)
                                I have wiring problem. How could I connect radio's power input to boosted powering source to get stable 3.3v?
                                thanks

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                                wrote on last edited by mfalkvidd
                                #69

                                @Barna see the instructions for "Regulated 5V" and "6-12v to RAW pin" on https://goo.gl/1ZMlUf https://www.openhardware.io/view/4/EasyNewbie-PCB-for-MySensors

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                                  wrote on last edited by sundberg84
                                  #70

                                  @Barna Exaclty as @mfalkvidd said - use regulated power instructions instead.
                                  Set the jumper on "reg" and bypass the voltage converter with a wire.

                                  Whats good to know is that this has been tested over and over in this forum and the conclusion has been so far that if you run with 2xAA the best sollution is to bypass the radio in the booster (i.e. use battery instructions - hence the difference). The radio can handle down to 1.9v so it wont die for a long time if you have some power savings in use.

                                  Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                                  MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                                  MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                                  RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                                  • sundberg84S sundberg84

                                    @Barna Exaclty as @mfalkvidd said - use regulated power instructions instead.
                                    Set the jumper on "reg" and bypass the voltage converter with a wire.

                                    Whats good to know is that this has been tested over and over in this forum and the conclusion has been so far that if you run with 2xAA the best sollution is to bypass the radio in the booster (i.e. use battery instructions - hence the difference). The radio can handle down to 1.9v so it wont die for a long time if you have some power savings in use.

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                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #71

                                    @sundberg84 yes, I would like to use 2xAA. I have measured it, 2xAA's out is 2.6V, after booster it is 3.3 .
                                    My first tying was battery jumper, but I had was radio problems.
                                    After bypassed the volt reg part to give 3.3v.
                                    When you have mentioned this : "Set the jumper on "reg" and bypass the voltage converter with a wire." do you talk about the jumper which next to battery jumper or the 2nd? I have tried which is next to radio.
                                    I have a filling, it will be soldering or hw issue, because both has worked, and has not sometimes.
                                    thanks

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                                      sundberg84
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                                      wrote on last edited by sundberg84
                                      #72

                                      @barna - what was the radio problem? If it was range issues i have figured out that some boosters are bad quality but it helps to have a 0,1uF capacitor between out and gnd on the booster.

                                      Note that you can not use both REG and BAT function at the same time.

                                      I mean this:
                                      0_1467188130411_Skärmklipp.JPG
                                      but if you only have 2.6v im not sure the arduino is going to function properly. With this setup the booster is not active and 2.6v is fed into all components. this is meant for 5v.

                                      As i said - i recommend using the bat and booster setup and instead try to figure out the radio problem.

                                      Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                                      MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                                      MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                                      RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                                      • sundberg84S sundberg84

                                        @barna - what was the radio problem? If it was range issues i have figured out that some boosters are bad quality but it helps to have a 0,1uF capacitor between out and gnd on the booster.

                                        Note that you can not use both REG and BAT function at the same time.

                                        I mean this:
                                        0_1467188130411_Skärmklipp.JPG
                                        but if you only have 2.6v im not sure the arduino is going to function properly. With this setup the booster is not active and 2.6v is fed into all components. this is meant for 5v.

                                        As i said - i recommend using the bat and booster setup and instead try to figure out the radio problem.

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                                        Barna
                                        wrote on last edited by
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                                        @sundberg84 I'm using battery with booster

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                                          #74

                                          Then connect it like battery and booster (BAT jumper) and try to figure out why you have the radio problems. Thats my advice. The above is possible (REG) but as i said, i dont think it will work when the battery goes below 2.6v.

                                          Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                                          MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                                          MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                                          RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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