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water meter - reading method with Line Track Sensor

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  • M MikaelK

    Hello

    Thanks for the answer. I went to the cellar today for a test, and as we feared, the line tracker did not detect any of the movements on the meter.

    So next step will be to check if there's a varying magnetic field.

    Regards
    Mikael

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    @Mikael-Kermorgant You can change the trigger point of the line track sensor using the potentiometer. Did you try this? I used this method on a ferraris-powermeter and finding the right point was quite delicate.

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      I have the same problems as OP, even adjusting the line track sensor to max distance, it was not good enough to go through the glas and down to the arrows. :( so I gave up on this project at the moment - but hope someone else might be able to answer this.

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        @Mikael-Kermorgant You can change the trigger point of the line track sensor using the potentiometer. Did you try this? I used this method on a ferraris-powermeter and finding the right point was quite delicate.

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        @fleinze Yes, I tried. I could get to the point where the led was either on or off, but at no time would the led blink as the wheel rotated. I guess the distance between the rotating part and the bottom is just too small.

        I've contacted the firm that provides water and they could change the meter by one giving impulses, but that would cost around 100€ so I'll wait and hope for a better issue.

        Regards
        Mikael

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          I put mine afterward with a reed pulse, that is perfect !

          the company water meter is out on the street ...

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          • M MikaelK

            @fleinze Yes, I tried. I could get to the point where the led was either on or off, but at no time would the led blink as the wheel rotated. I guess the distance between the rotating part and the bottom is just too small.

            I've contacted the firm that provides water and they could change the meter by one giving impulses, but that would cost around 100€ so I'll wait and hope for a better issue.

            Regards
            Mikael

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            @Mikael-Kermorgant Like @epierre mentioned. Go for "real" hardware (and don't get wet :grinning: )

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              Thanks :) I guess adding a meter may be the only viable solution, but I'm still not there yet (still waiting for the hall sensor).

              I've looked at various examples on the net, and from what I've seen, it boils down to 2 possibilities where none of them corresponds to my situation :

              • if there's a rotating wheel with a reflective surface, the tcrt5000 can work
              • if the enclosure on the top of the plumbing is made of plastic, the hall sensor can work

              Someone toyed with the idea to put a color sensor but prefered the hall sensor. That could maybe be worth a try, but I've not still not found anything simple to get inspiration from, so wait and see...

              Regards

              Mikael

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                ...or use the camera/rpi solution described here:

                http://forum.mysensors.org/topic/1594/automatic-water-meter-reading-with-a-webcam

                A bit overkill but it works!

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                  For me a PI and a camera is expensive and overkill ... you'll get about €50+energy running a PI where a water meter with impulse will only require some plumbing and an arduino...

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                    oh, I should have read this before I ordered the TCRT5000. I two seems to have hard time to get readings from my water meter.

                    I also have this small wheels.

                    I have a RPi and USB camera, so I could try that solution. But should have been nice with the TCRT5000.
                    Have anyone made any updates?

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                    • Patrik SöderströmP Patrik Söderström

                      oh, I should have read this before I ordered the TCRT5000. I two seems to have hard time to get readings from my water meter.

                      I also have this small wheels.

                      I have a RPi and USB camera, so I could try that solution. But should have been nice with the TCRT5000.
                      Have anyone made any updates?

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                      @Patrik-Söderström - I made some more tests but with the same conclusion... still lurking in the back of my head what to do but no good answer so far. I dont want to use RpI even if its a good sollution. Its way to expensive compared to my normal projects.

                      Maybe install a real waterflow meter somewhere... not that expensive in that link AWI posted... dont know if it can handle a normal household flow though.

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