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  • NeverDieN Offline
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    I assembled a node based on the interstitial design, but net net I don't see it as advantageous as compared to the other two, so I'll probably drop that approach. I've come up with a fourth design though and I've sent that to the fab, so presently three different designs are in queue for PCB fabrication.

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      Here's a photo of a TH node based on a Pro Mini with an interstitial board:
      0_1476660795087_proMini.jpg

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        Here's the node from post #1 fully assembled, and with a BME280 instead of an si7021:
        0_1476121957739_temp-RH node.jpg

        I'm starting to toy with the idea of having the radio also be a detachable module. The BME280 is the most expensive part on the board, and it's detachable. The atmega328p is detachable. If the radio were also detachable, it might speed up the assembly and test process. Also, if the radio were to go bad for some reason, one could just pop in a new one. Modularizing like that might make the whole thing easier to repair and troubleshoot, because you could always swap in "known good" modules to see if it fixes a particular problem. Anyhow, just an idea I'm kicking around. What do you all think? Make it more modular, or keep as is?

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        @NeverDie said:

        I'm starting to toy with the idea of having the radio also be a detachable module. The BME280 is the most expensive part on the board, and it's detachable. The atmega328p is detachable. If the radio were also detachable, it might speed up the assembly and test process. Also, if the radio were to go bad for some reason, one could just pop in a new one. Modularizing like that might make the whole thing easier to repair and troubleshoot, because you could always swap in "known good" modules to see if it fixes a particular problem. Anyhow, just an idea I'm kicking around. What do you all think? Make it more modular, or keep as is?

        I'm more and more liking the idea of detachable parts, especially as I continue to evolve the designs. That way if I move to a new PCB design, I can job pop the parts off the old PCB and pop them onto the new one without having to desolder things.

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          To keep things rolling I just sent in to be fabricated a test board with 1.45mm holes . It cost just 30 cents. If anyone has an idea for a better diameter to try, let me know and I'll send in one of those as well.

          0_1475705885671_1p45mmHoles.png

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          @NeverDie said:

          To keep things rolling I just sent in to be fabricated a test board with 1.45mm holes . It cost just 30 cents. If anyone has an idea for a better diameter to try, let me know and I'll send in one of those as well.

          0_1475705885671_1p45mmHoles.png

          Today I received the test board from the fab and tried it out:
          0_1476838716705_clearance.jpg

          As you can see from the photo (sorry that it's out of focus), it works in the sense that the female machine pin header now sits flush against the board. It's a snug fit though. For a female header that's longer and with more pins in it, I think the holes are going to need greater clearance or it will likely be too tight a fit. Just a wild guess, but I think 1.6mm diameter holes are what I should try next, and with a 14 pin female machine pin header.

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            Here's a photo of a TH node based on a Pro Mini with an interstitial board:
            0_1476660795087_proMini.jpg

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            @NeverDie said:

            Here's a photo of a TH node based on a Pro Mini with an interstitial board:

            Where can I order this board?
            Do you have a location where one could see all the boards you have developed?

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              @NeverDie said:

              Here's a photo of a TH node based on a Pro Mini with an interstitial board:

              Where can I order this board?
              Do you have a location where one could see all the boards you have developed?

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              @korttoma
              I'm continuing to evolve them, based in part on the new realization that it's best to start with a particular enclosure in mind and then optimize the board for that particular enclosure.

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                I'd say that so far this is the easiest one to assemble while still being moderately compact:
                0_1478010549689_easy.jpg
                It's also a bit more modular in the sense that the radio and the TH sensor can be plugged in or easily removed. Also nice is that all the atmega328p pins are exposed for easy access.

                This one is smaller and more specialized:
                0_1478010573725_compact.jpg

                I'm improving both of them though to use machine pins on the TH sensor to reduce the overall height. I've already sent the machine pin smaller version to the fab.

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                • korttomaK korttoma

                  @NeverDie said:

                  Here's a photo of a TH node based on a Pro Mini with an interstitial board:

                  Where can I order this board?
                  Do you have a location where one could see all the boards you have developed?

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                  @korttoma said:

                  @NeverDie said:

                  Here's a photo of a TH node based on a Pro Mini with an interstitial board:

                  Where can I order this board?
                  Do you have a location where one could see all the boards you have developed?

                  On the other hand, if you really do want it, I could post it. I'm willing to accommodate Hero members much more than those who are all take and no give.

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                    #63

                    I'm removing the voltage regulator from the BME280, because even though it appears to work fine with it installed even when fed a voltage of 3.3v, at some point it's going to be in the way if being run from even lower voltages. After removing the voltage regulator, I bridge across it using a bit of solid core copper wire and some solder, thusly:
                    0_1479239802279_BME280_noVreg.jpg
                    I'm not applying any flux, because I don't want to contaminant the BME280 sensor, either from the flux or from a flux remover afterward.

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                      With the BME280 voltage regulator removed, I powered it stand-alone using a 3.3V bench power supply. Using Dave Jones's uCurrent in conjunction with a Fluke 87V multimeter, I measure the standby current at a mere 155 nanoamps. I had planned to power it from pins on the atmega328p and then powering it down between measurements, but at 155na I'm not sure it even matters, provided it's being powered from a battery. :smile: On the other hand, if the entire mote is being powered from a capacitor that's charged from solar energy that's harvested from only weak ambient indoor light.... I guess in that scenario it might depend on the relative leakage rate of the capacitor that's used for the mote's energy storage as to whether or not it's worth fussing about.

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