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Arduino Pulse counting from energy meter vs current sensor method?

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  • ragavenR ragaven

    @AWI you were right about using CT's as they are easy and reliable, after researching for several hours,i found that pulse counting is not reliable as there would be low counts during less energy being used and those missed pulse would not provide accurate output, so i decided to go with CT itself, at first i did not know there was specific CT's for used with arduino, i was thinking of conventional CT (tape wound) which is very big and heavy, but now after seeing Non-invasive CT [SCT-013-000 ] at aliexpress , am thinking its very very easy to install as it is also split core and from here i found this link text which will be compatible to CT am buying now can i get desired result from Emontx shield and arduino uno r3 to display KWH used and cost of usage on my serial display? but there is also an decription that says [EmonTx Arduino shield is not compatible with other Arduino shields that use I2C] i dnt understand what it means and am not intending to upload anything in web (emoncms)...is this better idea than pulse counting? what are your thoughts AWI?

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    @ragaven depending on you perspective. Pulse counting is very reliable. The area in which it gets complicated is where you have a low energy consumption. In that situation the time between the pulses can be long. Actual current energy is calculated by using time between pulses.
    In practice most pulse meter have a 1 watt pulse. So with a 60 watts consumption there is one pulse per minute which is sufficient for me.
    Accuracy of usage (kWh) is very high. My meters are on par (within 10Wh) with the actual consumption after 6 months.

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      @ragaven depending on you perspective. Pulse counting is very reliable. The area in which it gets complicated is where you have a low energy consumption. In that situation the time between the pulses can be long. Actual current energy is calculated by using time between pulses.
      In practice most pulse meter have a 1 watt pulse. So with a 60 watts consumption there is one pulse per minute which is sufficient for me.
      Accuracy of usage (kWh) is very high. My meters are on par (within 10Wh) with the actual consumption after 6 months.

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      @AWI the meter am getting has 1000 impulse /kwh so if am consuming 1000 watts there would be approx.16 pulses evry minute, and increases as kwh gets higher?

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        @AWI the meter am getting has 1000 impulse /kwh so if am consuming 1000 watts there would be approx.16 pulses evry minute, and increases as kwh gets higher?

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        @ragaven That's right. So with a consumption of 1.000 watts you will be able to update the consumption rate 16 times per minute. Pretty accurate ...

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          @ragaven That's right. So with a consumption of 1.000 watts you will be able to update the consumption rate 16 times per minute. Pretty accurate ...

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          @AWI from your tutorial i understand your creating pulses every 10 sec right? now those pulse goes into energy meter and comes out depending on the kwh usage and you have an another arduino setup to read/sense those output right? my doubt is why do you want to create pulse when there is already a pulse creating relay is inside the meter(which is normally open?) so you can simply apply constant voltage and the kwh meter would close circuit and open as per usage which is created as pulse? and you said that we actually count time taken between pulses is used for determining the KW used so in my case there's approximately 3.75 seconds between each pulse for 1kwh, why dnt we count no of pulse instead of counting time interval between pulse?

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            @AWI i have received two modules today pro microi2c lcd the arduino-pro-mini doesnt have usb input,how do i upload sketches to it ,do i need a special usb cable for it?

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            • ragavenR ragaven

              @AWI i have received two modules today pro microi2c lcd the arduino-pro-mini doesnt have usb input,how do i upload sketches to it ,do i need a special usb cable for it?

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              @ragaven you will need a Ftdi adapter or clone to program the mini.

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              • AWIA AWI

                @ragaven you will need a Ftdi adapter or clone to program the mini.

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                @AWI The ftdi Adapter was priced at the range of an uno r3 board,so i bought an uno r3 board itself and i tested the output pulse from the multifunction meter today all is working well except,i did not use Arduino power,i used 24vdc as said in the manual to check everything is good and output pulse made few led's to blink for 2 sec alt text and there is an option for pulse timing on the meter! am bit worried abt the connections to be made with arduino as i have no idea which goes where :(

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                  @AWI i have finished connecting master and slave arduino based on your method(posted images) i havent run the code to test, can you pls check and tell if my connections are correct, i have also designed in autodesk circuits, but due to lack of some components like i2c adapter and rotarty encoder & kwh meter, i have substituted ones looking like them,the wiring color red is for + and black is for "- ", dt,clk,sda,scl are color coded and wired as your image, its only for connection checking purpose....pls check autodesk circuits thank you!

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                    Have you finished your project?

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                      Have you finished your project?

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                      @gohan yes its almost complete, since i ran out of memory in UNO. Am waiting to get mega and it will be all over soon. ...

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