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💬 Multi-Sensor: Temp/Humidity/PIR/ Leak/Magnet/Light/Accel

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  • Nca78N Offline
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    Nca78
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    wrote on last edited by
    #60

    @NeverDie you can also measure tilt using an accelerometer (acceleration measured is the gravity in that case) but it's possible only if there is no movement, so I don't think it's usable in a garbage truck processing.

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      NeverDie
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      wrote on last edited by NeverDie
      #61

      I guess it's the land of compromise. By default I'm going with the BMA220, if only because the board is small and the low power mode current drain is 10ua: https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/DFRobot-BMA220-3-Axis-Triple-Axis-Accelerometer-sensor-2-0-3-6V-I2C-Interface-Tiny-size/1681007_32791058717.html
      It's not cheap, but I only need a couple: one for trash can and the other for a curbside recycling bin.

      You're right though: maybe all I need is some kind of tilt detector, like maybe a mercury switch of some kind. Perhaps that would be cheaper, and the current drain could be almost nothing.... Thanks!

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      • NeverDieN NeverDie

        I guess it's the land of compromise. By default I'm going with the BMA220, if only because the board is small and the low power mode current drain is 10ua: https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/DFRobot-BMA220-3-Axis-Triple-Axis-Accelerometer-sensor-2-0-3-6V-I2C-Interface-Tiny-size/1681007_32791058717.html
        It's not cheap, but I only need a couple: one for trash can and the other for a curbside recycling bin.

        You're right though: maybe all I need is some kind of tilt detector, like maybe a mercury switch of some kind. Perhaps that would be cheaper, and the current drain could be almost nothing.... Thanks!

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        Nca78
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        #62

        @NeverDie said in 💬 Multi-Sensor: Temp/Humidity/PIR/ Leak/Magnet/Light/Accel:

        I guess it's the land of compromise. By default I'm going with the BMA220, if only because the board is small and the low power mode current drain is 10ua

        At this price buy the small LIS3DH breakout, you'll enjoy the included tilt calculation and a 2uA consumption, 10uA for button cell it too high
        https://www.aliexpress.com/item/LIS3DH-Module-Acceleration-Sensor-Module-Evaluation-Board-Development-Board/32285377730.html

        Else go for that one it's cheaper and has the nrf51822 onboard
        https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Nrf51822-LIS3DH-Bluetooth-Module-CJMCU-8223-Bluetooth-acceleration-module/32821873481.html

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        • Nca78N Nca78

          @NeverDie said in 💬 Multi-Sensor: Temp/Humidity/PIR/ Leak/Magnet/Light/Accel:

          I guess it's the land of compromise. By default I'm going with the BMA220, if only because the board is small and the low power mode current drain is 10ua

          At this price buy the small LIS3DH breakout, you'll enjoy the included tilt calculation and a 2uA consumption, 10uA for button cell it too high
          https://www.aliexpress.com/item/LIS3DH-Module-Acceleration-Sensor-Module-Evaluation-Board-Development-Board/32285377730.html

          Else go for that one it's cheaper and has the nrf51822 onboard
          https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Nrf51822-LIS3DH-Bluetooth-Module-CJMCU-8223-Bluetooth-acceleration-module/32821873481.html

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          NeverDie
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          wrote on last edited by
          #63

          @Nca78 said in 💬 Multi-Sensor: Temp/Humidity/PIR/ Leak/Magnet/Light/Accel:

          https://www.aliexpress.com/item/LIS3DH-Module-Acceleration-Sensor-Module-Evaluation-Board-Development-Board/32285377730.html

          Those are both good suggestions. Thinking now though of minimal effort, I may try some cheap ball sensors first:
          https://www.aliexpress.com/item/200PCS-LOT-Sensitive-SW-520D-Ball-Switch-Angle-Switch-SW-520D-Tilt-Switch/1967714977.html?ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_4_10152_10065_10151_10344_10068_10130_10345_10324_10342_10547_10325_10343_10546_10340_10341_10548_10545_10541_10562_10084_10083_10307_10178_10060_10155_10154_10539_10312_10059_10313_10314_10534_10533_100031_10103_10073_10594_10557_10558_10596_10595_10142_10107,searchweb201603_25,ppcSwitch_4&btsid=110cafb1-1528-4ca9-bf01-4df9ccf33b93&algo_expid=8506dd81-1d5d-4627-9ae5-f3df06594fbb-9&algo_pvid=8506dd81-1d5d-4627-9ae5-f3df06594fbb&rmStoreLevelAB=0
          I could stick it in one of the leak detection pinouts of my existing board, so it should be easy. :)

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          • NeverDieN Offline
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            NeverDie
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            wrote on last edited by
            #64

            Actually, this contraption looks even more promising than the ball switch: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Vibration-Switch-Shock-Vibration-Sensor-Shaked-Switch-Shaked-Stick-Skates/32686838884.html?ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_4_10152_10065_10151_10344_10068_10130_10345_10324_10342_10547_10325_10343_10546_10340_10341_10548_10545_10541_10562_10084_10083_10307_10178_10060_10155_10154_10539_10312_10059_10313_10314_10534_10533_100031_10103_10073_10594_10557_10558_10596_10595_10142_10107,searchweb201603_25,ppcSwitch_4&btsid=8ee4bf46-c3de-4f6a-b23f-32b800aefc7a&algo_expid=d469a8ff-4dce-4442-8590-0e2fdefb1f4b-14&algo_pvid=d469a8ff-4dce-4442-8590-0e2fdefb1f4b&rmStoreLevelAB=0

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            • NeverDieN Offline
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              NeverDie
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              wrote on last edited by NeverDie
              #65

              I uploaded new, upgraded demo code. It's tested and works. :)

              SUMMARY: The demo sketch runs on MultiSensor Version 7 board with an I2C Si7021 module to transmit temperature, humidity, and battery voltage to a MySensors gateway using MySensors protocols.

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              • NeverDieN NeverDie

                Actually, this contraption looks even more promising than the ball switch: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Vibration-Switch-Shock-Vibration-Sensor-Shaked-Switch-Shaked-Stick-Skates/32686838884.html?ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_4_10152_10065_10151_10344_10068_10130_10345_10324_10342_10547_10325_10343_10546_10340_10341_10548_10545_10541_10562_10084_10083_10307_10178_10060_10155_10154_10539_10312_10059_10313_10314_10534_10533_100031_10103_10073_10594_10557_10558_10596_10595_10142_10107,searchweb201603_25,ppcSwitch_4&btsid=8ee4bf46-c3de-4f6a-b23f-32b800aefc7a&algo_expid=d469a8ff-4dce-4442-8590-0e2fdefb1f4b-14&algo_pvid=d469a8ff-4dce-4442-8590-0e2fdefb1f4b&rmStoreLevelAB=0

                Nca78N Offline
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                Nca78
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                wrote on last edited by
                #66

                @NeverDie have you seen the comments ? :D

                Damn thing works only for the impact of accelerations> 50g. and only in one direction. In life it is not applicable. Shit, shorter.
                
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                • Nca78N Nca78

                  @NeverDie have you seen the comments ? :D

                  Damn thing works only for the impact of accelerations> 50g. and only in one direction. In life it is not applicable. Shit, shorter.
                  
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                  NeverDie
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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #67

                  @Nca78 No, I hadn't. Now I'm wishing I had. Good catch! I'll try cancelling my order....

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                  • NeverDieN Offline
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                    NeverDie
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                    wrote on last edited by
                    #68

                    Thinking about it more now, I think the ball switch will definitely work if I position it with a vertical orientation, because they invariably fully invert the trash/recycling bin in order to empty it.

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                      wrote on last edited by
                      #69

                      Here's a node with the Hall sensor installed:
                      0_1511120456766_hall_installed.jpg
                      I'll probably be testing it later today.

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                      • NeverDieN Offline
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                        wrote on last edited by
                        #70

                        Tested. The Hall sensor works. Basically, if you run this code:

                        #define HALL_PIN 9
                          hwPinMode(HALL_PIN, INPUT);
                          while (true) {
                            if (digitalRead(HALL_PIN)) {
                              digitalWrite(LED_BUILTIN,LOW);
                            }
                            else {
                              digitalWrite(LED_BUILTIN,HIGH);
                            }
                          }
                        

                        then the LED will turn-on when you bring a magnet near the sensor, and the LED will turn-off when you move the magnet away. Simple. :)

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                          Great!
                          A bit OT: how are you programming the nRF?

                          atmega328p serial killer
                          HomeAssistant / gateway: ESP8266 & NRF24L01+ gateway

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                            Great!
                            A bit OT: how are you programming the nRF?

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                            NeverDie
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                            wrote on last edited by
                            #72

                            @ghiglie I plug it into the nRF52 DK using an IDC cable to its 10-pin connector. Then just select J-Link as the programmer and upload my sketch over the USB port connection to the nRF52 DK from within the Arduino IDE. Easy!

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                              wrote on last edited by DerManni
                              #73

                              @NeverDie
                              Did you or anybody else could write to the NRF5xxx via the Arduino IDE and a ST-Link V2 programmer?
                              I find the DK for approx. 32€ a little bit to expensive for just testing.

                              Edit: Maybe this one could work:
                              http://s.aliexpress.com/FRzU3miM

                              Thanks.

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                                @NeverDie
                                Did you or anybody else could write to the NRF5xxx via the Arduino IDE and a ST-Link V2 programmer?
                                I find the DK for approx. 32€ a little bit to expensive for just testing.

                                Edit: Maybe this one could work:
                                http://s.aliexpress.com/FRzU3miM

                                Thanks.

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                                NeverDie
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                                wrote on last edited by
                                #74

                                @DerManni said in 💬 Multi-Sensor: Temp/Humidity/PIR/ Leak/Magnet/Light/Accel:

                                ST-Link V2 programmer

                                Not me. As I said, I'm using the nRF52 DK as my programmer of choice. I think others may be using the ST-Link V2. Not 100% sure though.

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                                • NeverDieN NeverDie

                                  @DerManni said in 💬 Multi-Sensor: Temp/Humidity/PIR/ Leak/Magnet/Light/Accel:

                                  ST-Link V2 programmer

                                  Not me. As I said, I'm using the nRF52 DK as my programmer of choice. I think others may be using the ST-Link V2. Not 100% sure though.

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                                  #75

                                  @NeverDie
                                  Yes i am using the STLink v2 without any problems.

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                                  • rmtuckerR rmtucker

                                    @NeverDie
                                    Yes i am using the STLink v2 without any problems.

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                                    @rmtucker Could you please explain in weich was you connect the STLINK to the NRF Module to usw the Arduino IDE. Thanks

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                                      @rmtucker Could you please explain in weich was you connect the STLINK to the NRF Module to usw the Arduino IDE. Thanks

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                                      @DerManni

                                      STLink<----------------->NRF

                                      SWCLK<--------------->SWD
                                      SWDIO<---------------->SWIO
                                      3.3v<--------------------->3.3v
                                      GND<-------------------->GND

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                                        I received the version 9 PCB's today. Here's one assembled as a minimalist water leak sensor:
                                        0_1511408166526_v9_1.jpg
                                        0_1511408180982_v9_2.jpg

                                        There's now enough physical clearance between the male header leak detection pins and the CR2032 battery holder that I feel comfortable declaring the hardware as finished. :)

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                                        • NeverDieN NeverDie

                                          @Nca78 said in 💬 CR2032 Small Wireless Temperature-Humidity Sensor:

                                          Also, what about moving the led to the center next to its resistor, it would leave enough space to squeeze in a SOT 23 ultra low power hall sensor and it's 100nF capacitor.

                                          Yes, with the Version 4 design serving as the basis, I think there will be enough room to do this.

                                          I'd also like to add a light sensor of some kind: something that will trigger an interrupt when, say, a refrigerator light goes on or off (for the case where the temperature node is in a refrigertor or freezer). Do you have any particular suggestions for that? A simple photoresistor, or would there be something better (lower current)?
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                                          wrote on last edited by NeverDie
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                                          @NeverDie said in 💬 Multi-Sensor: Temp/Humidity/PIR/ Leak/Magnet/Light/Accel:

                                          @Nca78 said in 💬 CR2032 Small Wireless Temperature-Humidity Sensor:

                                          Also, what about moving the led to the center next to its resistor, it would leave enough space to squeeze in a SOT 23 ultra low power hall sensor and it's 100nF capacitor.

                                          Yes, with the Version 4 design serving as the basis, I think there will be enough room to do this.

                                          I'd also like to add a light sensor of some kind: something that will trigger an interrupt when, say, a refrigerator light goes on or off (for the case where the temperature node is in a refrigertor or freezer). Do you have any particular suggestions for that? A simple photoresistor, or would there be something better (lower current)?
                                          alt text

                                          A photoresistor turns out to work just fine for binary detection of whether a light is on or off:
                                          0_1512275545150_photo_resistor.jpg
                                          I put it in one of the header pin hole pairs otherwise reserved for the leak detection pins and then ran the leak detection sketch. When a light goes on, the resistance of the photoresistor goes from about 20 megaohms in the dark down to well under 100K ohms (exactly amount depends on the light intensity) in the light. So, under light stimulus the photoresistor behaves essentially the same as leak detection pins which have come into contact with water. :)

                                          The one I used is this: https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/luna-optoelectronics/NSL-19M51/NSL-19M51-ND/5039794 Perhaps a cheaper photoresistor would have worked just as well, but for proof of concept prototyping I wanted to try this one, which had desirable specs.

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