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    grumpazoid
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    I have just received three of these modules from Banggood. https://www.banggood.com/3Pcs-NRF24L01-SI24R1-2_4G-Wireless-Power-Enhanced-Communication-Receiver-Module-p-1057155.html?rmmds=search&cur_warehouse=CN#jsReviewsWrap

    Have I made a mistake in buying these?

    I've tried to get them communicating using the following guide but no joy so far. https://maniacbug.wordpress.com/2011/11/02/getting-started-rf24/
    I'll have another try tonight.

    Raspberry Pi 3B - Domoticz + Node Red
    Arduino Pro Mini 3.3V - W5100 Ethernet, Nrf24
    Arduino Mega, RFLink 433Mhz
    Sonoff/ESP8266/Tasmota switches

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      electrik
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      @grumpazoid Try this guide https://www.mysensors.org/build/connect_radio
      It looks like you miss one connection

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        After a bit of trial and error, it turned out that the clone uno board (made by geekcreit) needed a capacitor across the power lines to the radio.

        I used the code as provided on this tutorial https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSHJ-RLbNJk

        Next on this list is to try and make sense of this:
        Default mode output power of SI24R1 is 2 ~ 3dBm, if you want the output is 7dBm, you should write 1 (NRF24L01 + This bit is not used, the default is 0) into the lowest bit register address 0x06 (RF_SETUP) . For example, the 01register, 0x061111

        Raspberry Pi 3B - Domoticz + Node Red
        Arduino Pro Mini 3.3V - W5100 Ethernet, Nrf24
        Arduino Mega, RFLink 433Mhz
        Sonoff/ESP8266/Tasmota switches

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          Just a further update with these modules. I was having trouble with the modules not being able to communicate across the distance of my house.

          Since then I received a second order of this same SKU from BG. This time the radios came in nice individual geekcreit bags. I swapped out all the radios and now they communicate perfectly form one side of the house to the other.
          It's a shame that the BG website lists both my orders as the same part number , so there is no way of knowing what will turn up if I order again.

          Raspberry Pi 3B - Domoticz + Node Red
          Arduino Pro Mini 3.3V - W5100 Ethernet, Nrf24
          Arduino Mega, RFLink 433Mhz
          Sonoff/ESP8266/Tasmota switches

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            grumpazoid
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            Latest update.

            Another 4 boards arrived from ebay. They looked like the bad batch I had in that the tracks on the PCB antenna are slightly thicker.
            Sure enough......terrible range.

            I have also received the NRF24L01+PA+LNA from the link on the Mysensors store.
            This refuses to work in MAX power mode - yes I am using separate 3.3V supply for it. Everything just locks up. Range in other power modes is no better. The printing on the PCB is different to that pictured. Pin 0 is not marked. Confusingly there is a dot next to pin 8 !!!

            so so far 3 good radios. 8 Bad ones.

            I have asked Banggood if they are still shipping the radios that worked.
            Anybody bought any recently that work ok? Maybe time to change to another band?

            Raspberry Pi 3B - Domoticz + Node Red
            Arduino Pro Mini 3.3V - W5100 Ethernet, Nrf24
            Arduino Mega, RFLink 433Mhz
            Sonoff/ESP8266/Tasmota switches

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              Latest update.

              Another 4 boards arrived from ebay. They looked like the bad batch I had in that the tracks on the PCB antenna are slightly thicker.
              Sure enough......terrible range.

              I have also received the NRF24L01+PA+LNA from the link on the Mysensors store.
              This refuses to work in MAX power mode - yes I am using separate 3.3V supply for it. Everything just locks up. Range in other power modes is no better. The printing on the PCB is different to that pictured. Pin 0 is not marked. Confusingly there is a dot next to pin 8 !!!

              so so far 3 good radios. 8 Bad ones.

              I have asked Banggood if they are still shipping the radios that worked.
              Anybody bought any recently that work ok? Maybe time to change to another band?

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              @grumpazoid said in NRF24L01+ SI24R1:

              Anybody bought any recently that work ok?

              Check this thread : https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/9668/cdebyte-s-new-nrf24-modules-are-great-and-cheap

              IMHO all the hassle isn't worth the price difference.

              http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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                @grumpazoid said in NRF24L01+ SI24R1:

                Anybody bought any recently that work ok?

                Check this thread : https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/9668/cdebyte-s-new-nrf24-modules-are-great-and-cheap

                IMHO all the hassle isn't worth the price difference.

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                grumpazoid
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                @yveaux Some useful info there. Thanks. Will keep an eye on those modules to see if the price drops a bit.

                Raspberry Pi 3B - Domoticz + Node Red
                Arduino Pro Mini 3.3V - W5100 Ethernet, Nrf24
                Arduino Mega, RFLink 433Mhz
                Sonoff/ESP8266/Tasmota switches

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                  Today I have conducted some experiments with the antenna on one of my "bad" modules.
                  First I extended the length of the antenna as detailed in the youtube video by @petewill . No improvement to speak of.

                  Having noted that the antenna tracks on all my bad modules are thicker than the ones that work, I cut the track to the on board antenna and soldered on a 125mm piece of cat5 wire.

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                  The improvement was immediate. I can now reach from one end of my house to the other.
                  Interestingly there were still a couple of dead spots right at the far ends, but bending the wire at right angles, 2 or 3 cm form the end got everything working. :grin:

                  I have yet more modules on order from ebay so will see what they look like - CDEBYTE ones still at a high price :(

                  Raspberry Pi 3B - Domoticz + Node Red
                  Arduino Pro Mini 3.3V - W5100 Ethernet, Nrf24
                  Arduino Mega, RFLink 433Mhz
                  Sonoff/ESP8266/Tasmota switches

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                    Today I have conducted some experiments with the antenna on one of my "bad" modules.
                    First I extended the length of the antenna as detailed in the youtube video by @petewill . No improvement to speak of.

                    Having noted that the antenna tracks on all my bad modules are thicker than the ones that work, I cut the track to the on board antenna and soldered on a 125mm piece of cat5 wire.

                    alt text

                    The improvement was immediate. I can now reach from one end of my house to the other.
                    Interestingly there were still a couple of dead spots right at the far ends, but bending the wire at right angles, 2 or 3 cm form the end got everything working. :grin:

                    I have yet more modules on order from ebay so will see what they look like - CDEBYTE ones still at a high price :(

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                    Guillermo Schimmel
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                    @grumpazoid I did the same but on the tip of the PCB antenna and can confirm that increases the range a lot!

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                    • G Guillermo Schimmel

                      @grumpazoid I did the same but on the tip of the PCB antenna and can confirm that increases the range a lot!

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                      grumpazoid
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                      @guillermo-schimmel It is interesting that the "tip" method did not work for me. Maybe the antenna tracks on my PCBs are not too good.

                      Raspberry Pi 3B - Domoticz + Node Red
                      Arduino Pro Mini 3.3V - W5100 Ethernet, Nrf24
                      Arduino Mega, RFLink 433Mhz
                      Sonoff/ESP8266/Tasmota switches

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                        @guillermo-schimmel It is interesting that the "tip" method did not work for me. Maybe the antenna tracks on my PCBs are not too good.

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                        Guillermo Schimmel
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                        @grumpazoid It is not the same module. Is another with a simpler antenna.

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