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Which battery measurement to use?

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    kiesel
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    Hi,

    I am looking into building a battery powered door sensor and I am not sure how to measure the battery.

    There seem to be two methods, one using two resistors and another one here which doesn't.

    It's less work to not use the two resistors, but I was wondering whether there are drawbacks to this method and whether I should use the one with the two resistors?

    I hope somebody can shed some light on that :)

    Thanks!

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      Hi,

      I am looking into building a battery powered door sensor and I am not sure how to measure the battery.

      There seem to be two methods, one using two resistors and another one here which doesn't.

      It's less work to not use the two resistors, but I was wondering whether there are drawbacks to this method and whether I should use the one with the two resistors?

      I hope somebody can shed some light on that :)

      Thanks!

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      @kiesel the method without resistor can only be used when powering directly from battery. If you use a booster, ldo or similar to transform the voltage from the battery, the method without resistor won't work.

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        @kiesel the method without resistor can only be used when powering directly from battery. If you use a booster, ldo or similar to transform the voltage from the battery, the method without resistor won't work.

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        @mfalkvidd

        I am planning on using a booster, so that's very good to know, thanks!

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        • mfalkviddM mfalkvidd

          @kiesel the method without resistor can only be used when powering directly from battery. If you use a booster, ldo or similar to transform the voltage from the battery, the method without resistor won't work.

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          kiesel
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          @mfalkvidd

          If you don't mind me asking here: Will the booster disturb the rfm69? The page about battery driven sensors only mentions the NRF24l01+. Should I power the rfm69 straight from the battery? Or will the 0,1uF ceramic capacitor be enough? It seems like using the booster on the radio would be smart since the node will run for longer on the same set of batteries, if I am not mistaken.

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            @mfalkvidd

            If you don't mind me asking here: Will the booster disturb the rfm69? The page about battery driven sensors only mentions the NRF24l01+. Should I power the rfm69 straight from the battery? Or will the 0,1uF ceramic capacitor be enough? It seems like using the booster on the radio would be smart since the node will run for longer on the same set of batteries, if I am not mistaken.

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            @kiesel the rfm radios are less sensitive to power fluctuations, so you might not need a capacitor.

            on the other hand, a booster is never 100% efficient.

            But if you get a "good" booster, the battery life will be more limited by the self-discharge of the battery than by the power usage of the node. Same goes for the non-boosted variant.

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              If you go with 2xAA or 2xAAA rechargeable batteries (2.4V) and an Arduino (ATMega328P) without a booster set the BOD level to 1.8V and run your MCU at 1 Mhz.
              With a Vcc of 2.7V and the MUC running at 8 Mhz I have experienced some problem (reset). See here for more details

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                power consumption wise resistor-less method and running directly from LiFePo4(rechargeable 2.8-3.6V) or LiSoCl(3.6v non rechargeable) battery is best. Unless you remove regulator and USB/rs232 chip it's all wasting your time.

                @mfalkvidd said in Which battery measurement to use?:

                But if you get a "good" booster, the battery life will be more limited by the self-discharge of the battery than by the power usage of the node. Same goes for the non-boosted variant.

                Depending on battery chemistry, LiSoCl will last 15 years. with carefully designed MyS node you can get 10 years on single AA LiSoCL battery. Something like power meter pulse counter transmitting once every kWh.

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