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  • GuyPG Offline
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    GuyP
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    #24

    I'm just flashing with the uno boot loader...

    I have been looking at doing away with the boot loader, but really the advantages such as extra space and boot speed are not important at the moment.

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    • GuyPG GuyP

      I'm running everything at 3 volts from the 2 AAA batteries. The box is 3D printed and integrates the battery box. I'm not using any screws, just slide rails for the PCB , top and back.

      TempSensorBase.stl

      I have two board types now. One with just the single Dallas temp sensor on it, which turns out to be what I need most of.
      tempSensor.png

      I also created another board which has three Connectors, JP1-3, which allows to additional Dallas Temp sensors. I have these in locations where I can run wires more easily, like my loft spaces.

      tempSensor+.png

      I'm etching everything myself. Very simple really. I'm using the print on to glossy paper and transfer onto copper board, using a laminator, method. Works really well. As these boards are small I tend to etch a few at a time onto a single copper board and then cut the board at the end.

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      Moshe Livne
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      #25

      @GuyP can you please export it in brd or dxf?

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      • GuyPG Offline
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        #26

        Here's the BRD files..

        TempSensorRepeater.brd

        TempSensor.brd

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        • GuyPG GuyP

          Here's the BRD files..

          TempSensorRepeater.brd

          TempSensor.brd

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          Moshe Livne
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          #27

          @GuyP Thanks!!!!

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          • Moshe LivneM Moshe Livne

            @GuyP Thanks!!!!

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            Moshe Livne
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            #28

            @GuyP Ordered 3 from oshpark... 12$. lets see how quickly they get here. so, other than the sensor and the resistors and oscillator (16mhz?) is there anything else there? I am sorry, I am just hopeless at reading sketchs. Is that a diod on the top left?

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              #29

              Sorry my fault... I'm not very good at documentation! :(

              There are no diodes on the boards... Which board are you referring to.. the TempSensor board just has:

              • 1x dallas Tempensor
              • 2x capacitors for the crystal
              • 1x 16Mhz Crystal
              • 1x 4.7uf Capacitor accros the power lines
              • 1 resistor for the Dallas sensor to provide power
              • 1x 470k resistor and 1x 1m resistor for the battery power level monitoring.

              I don't even have the pins for updating the Arduino, I pull it from the socket and write it in a uno board. I do however have a GND, and serial TX pin so I can see the chip working if necessary.

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              • GuyPG GuyP

                Sorry my fault... I'm not very good at documentation! :(

                There are no diodes on the boards... Which board are you referring to.. the TempSensor board just has:

                • 1x dallas Tempensor
                • 2x capacitors for the crystal
                • 1x 16Mhz Crystal
                • 1x 4.7uf Capacitor accros the power lines
                • 1 resistor for the Dallas sensor to provide power
                • 1x 470k resistor and 1x 1m resistor for the battery power level monitoring.

                I don't even have the pins for updating the Arduino, I pull it from the socket and write it in a uno board. I do however have a GND, and serial TX pin so I can see the chip working if necessary.

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                Moshe Livne
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                wrote on last edited by
                #30

                @GuyP excellent!! That comes out as a really inexpensive and low power board. What sockets do you use? will these work? http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-shipping-17PCS-28pin-DIP-IC-sockets-Adaptor-Solder-Type-28-pin-Narrow-body/32313568228.html?spm=2114.32010308.4.2.lkcXJR

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                • GuyPG Offline
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                  #31

                  Yes it's very cheap and simple to build, When I was etching the boards I was etching 12 at a time and cutting them down.

                  That 28pin Narrow socket looks to be the right thing (seems to say the right things anyway), the graphic is odd though.

                  I also bought all the parts in bulk which made for even more savings, specially for resistors and capacitors where I bought maybe 100 and was paying less than 1p a unit.

                  I was also able to buy the Dallas Temp sensors in bulk and saved quite well on those as well

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                  • GuyPG GuyP

                    Yes it's very cheap and simple to build, When I was etching the boards I was etching 12 at a time and cutting them down.

                    That 28pin Narrow socket looks to be the right thing (seems to say the right things anyway), the graphic is odd though.

                    I also bought all the parts in bulk which made for even more savings, specially for resistors and capacitors where I bought maybe 100 and was paying less than 1p a unit.

                    I was also able to buy the Dallas Temp sensors in bulk and saved quite well on those as well

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                    Moshe Livne
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                    wrote on last edited by
                    #32

                    @GuyP Yes, i think that they tried to show what chip fits the socket. They move in mysterious ways... I have all the transistors and capacitors i'll ever need (they are really cheap...) but ordered the oscillators so now I have to wait for a week or two. I am not into etching - seems like something I'll manage to mess up. oshpark will print nice pcbs for you for a really reasonable price. I have ordered only 3 so cost is 4$ each but if you order quantity its much much less (and most of the price is the shipping i think :-) ).
                    I also have some Dallas so I am all set. As I don't have a 3d printer but really good at woodworking I think i'll build some nice oak boxes for these....

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                      #33

                      Awesome... send photos when you've made them! :)

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                        GuyP
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                        #34

                        Oh a few people have suggested these guys for cheap PCB production..
                        http://dirtypcbs.com

                        I've not tried them myself yet.

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                        • GuyPG GuyP

                          Oh a few people have suggested these guys for cheap PCB production..
                          http://dirtypcbs.com

                          I've not tried them myself yet.

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                          Moshe Livne
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                          #35

                          @GuyP They are very cheap per board. Might give them a go if the 3 works fine. early days yet!

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                          • GuyPG GuyP

                            Awesome... send photos when you've made them! :)

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                            wrote on last edited by
                            #36

                            @GuyP PCB arrived from oshpark!
                            upload_-1 (8).jpg
                            What capacitors did you use for the crystal? and what resistor for the dallas?

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                              #37

                              Ok now I'm jealous.. that looks fantastic.

                              1437172414002-upload_-1-8.jpg

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                              • GuyPG GuyP

                                Ok now I'm jealous.. that looks fantastic.

                                1437172414002-upload_-1-8.jpg

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                                Moshe Livne
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                                wrote on last edited by
                                #38

                                @GuyP It does... Now I realize that if I knew what I was doing (and I don't) it could probably be made smaller and no need for soldering at all.

                                Thanks! will let you know how it worked out. Might take a bit of time as I am now finishing my AirCon remote sensor.

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                                  #39

                                  @GuyP Can you post the 3d files for the box in original post if possible?

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                                    #40

                                    Sure here you go..

                                    TempSensorBase.stl

                                    TempSensorTop.stl

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                                      @Moshe-Livne Any progress?
                                      can you please explain how this pcb be smaller with no need for soldering
                                      Where are you from?

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                                      • O oded00

                                        @Moshe-Livne Any progress?
                                        can you please explain how this pcb be smaller with no need for soldering
                                        Where are you from?

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                                        Moshe Livne
                                        Hero Member
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                                        #42

                                        @oded00 Still waiting for the 22pf capacitors...
                                        It was made in resolution for home made PCBs and single layer. oshpark can make the lines much smaller and make more layers so there is no need for soldering the "red" lines. you still need to solder the components (nrf, capacitors etc)
                                        I live in NZ

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                                          @GuyP If I order this brd files online, I assume that I need to remove the red lines from the top layer? Or maybe reroute them if possible? Looks like some short circuit connections.

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