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  • petewillP petewill

    @jlieffort
    Hi Jim,
    Part of this is in response to your questions posted on YouTube. I powered as many devices as I could from a phone charger directly (W5100 and Pro Mini) I also believe I powered the radio from the 5v phone charger but with a 3.3v regulator and capacitors in between.

    Yes, if you change the channel in myconfig.h you will have to reprogram all your sensors :(

    Now for the YouTube stuff. You said you have myscontroller receiving messages from the Ethernet gateway. Does it also send them to the gateway? Are you on UI7?

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    @petewill BTW my house is full of sensors because of you !! thanks it's very cool.

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      @petewill BTW my house is full of sensors because of you !! thanks it's very cool.

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      @jlieffort Hmm. Were you able to get any sensors to report via MYSController? They should start showing up without having to do anything except configure it to use the Ethernet gateway. You may also want to try switching out the long range antenna for a standard one. Those have caused issues for me.

      My "How To" home automation video channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq_Evyh5PQALx4m4CQuxqkA

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        @jlieffort Hmm. Were you able to get any sensors to report via MYSController? They should start showing up without having to do anything except configure it to use the Ethernet gateway. You may also want to try switching out the long range antenna for a standard one. Those have caused issues for me.

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        @petewill Success well very close. Your suggestion right on.

        I swapped out a long range antennae for a different long range, and I now have everything reporting and I'm able to control everything. Yeah !!! Only thing I'm having an issue with now is I can't include any new sensors? Any ideas? I have been letting it automatically add id and I just hit 200 the other day.........

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          @jlieffort said:

          I just hit 200 the other day.........

          You have 200 separate nodes in your house!? WOW! What are they all for?

          Only thing I'm having an issue with now is I can't include any new sensors?

          Where are things going wrong? Can you press the include button in Vera to have it start looking for new nodes but they just aren't recognized? Have you totally rebooted (unplugged power) Vera since adding the Ethernet controller? If you have MYSController connected make sure you shut it off when you are trying to include sensors as it could conflict.

          If that doesn't help, please describe the process you are using and were it stops working in as much detail as you can.

          My "How To" home automation video channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq_Evyh5PQALx4m4CQuxqkA

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            @jlieffort said:

            I just hit 200 the other day.........

            You have 200 separate nodes in your house!? WOW! What are they all for?

            Only thing I'm having an issue with now is I can't include any new sensors?

            Where are things going wrong? Can you press the include button in Vera to have it start looking for new nodes but they just aren't recognized? Have you totally rebooted (unplugged power) Vera since adding the Ethernet controller? If you have MYSController connected make sure you shut it off when you are trying to include sensors as it could conflict.

            If that doesn't help, please describe the process you are using and were it stops working in as much detail as you can.

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            @petewill probably using the wrong word "Node" it assigns a number and because I've been messing around with it so much, it's up to 200, I really only have about 15 my sensor devices.

            When using include mode it looks like they are seen on the Myscontroller, but nothing reports back to the Vera. So I will try your idea without using Myscontroller.

            Also some of my motion sensors and a home made light sensor are not communicating. All my relays are working, and some of the motion sensors close to the Ethernet gw are still working. My typical build was using a nano clone and powering the radio right off the 3.3v. Some weeks ago on my relays I added 3.3v regulated power. That seemed to make much more reliable than the clone 3.3. alone. Today I will add regulators to some that are still without.

            I was also able to change my comcast modem to use a channel that was not right on top of the the mios network.

            If I can get the include button to work I'm Golden, then I'm sure on the the next issue. As always you've been a great help thank you. Jim

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              @jlieffort said:

              I just hit 200 the other day.........

              You have 200 separate nodes in your house!? WOW! What are they all for?

              Only thing I'm having an issue with now is I can't include any new sensors?

              Where are things going wrong? Can you press the include button in Vera to have it start looking for new nodes but they just aren't recognized? Have you totally rebooted (unplugged power) Vera since adding the Ethernet controller? If you have MYSController connected make sure you shut it off when you are trying to include sensors as it could conflict.

              If that doesn't help, please describe the process you are using and were it stops working in as much detail as you can.

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              @petewill Additionally to address your other question I have rebooted the Vera Edge by powering off and then on a couple times.

              Edit: When trying to include a relay, here is the serial output:
              send: 3-3-13-0 s=255,c=0,t=18,pt=0,l=5,sg=0,st=ok:1.5.1
              send: 3-3-13-0 s=255,c=3,t=6,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,st=ok:13
              read: 0-13-3 s=255,c=3,t=6,pt=0,l=1,sg=0:M
              repeater started, id=3, parent=13, distance=2
              send: 3-3-13-0 s=255,c=3,t=11,pt=0,l=5,sg=0,st=ok:Relay
              send: 3-3-13-0 s=255,c=3,t=12,pt=0,l=3,sg=0,st=ok:1.0
              send: 3-3-13-0 s=1,c=0,t=3,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,st=ok:

              Nothing in Vera, allows to go into include mode but never recognizes the device in the interface.

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                @jlieffort said:

                I just hit 200 the other day.........

                You have 200 separate nodes in your house!? WOW! What are they all for?

                Only thing I'm having an issue with now is I can't include any new sensors?

                Where are things going wrong? Can you press the include button in Vera to have it start looking for new nodes but they just aren't recognized? Have you totally rebooted (unplugged power) Vera since adding the Ethernet controller? If you have MYSController connected make sure you shut it off when you are trying to include sensors as it could conflict.

                If that doesn't help, please describe the process you are using and were it stops working in as much detail as you can.

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                @petewill
                Pete link is of the screen shot from myscontroller while trying to add a new sensor, since I changed to the Ethernet GW. I have tried this many times without myscontroller turned on as per your suggestion. It looks to me like it finds the repeater and the relay switch but nothing shows up in the inclusion mode.

                Have ideas why the gateway will not include any new sensors?

                Screen shot of myscontroller

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                  I was finally able to add a new relay, although the vera interface never acknowledged a new device found. It just showed up on an engine reload.

                  Question for you guys when you build a device on a pcb board how is it best to power it ? Run 5V to the 5v pin from a cell phone charger or use a 9v 1amp or similar transformer and run it to the VIN pin? Either way I usually use a 3.3 volt regulator for the radio. But I am curious if one way is better then the other?

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                    I was finally able to add a new relay, although the vera interface never acknowledged a new device found. It just showed up on an engine reload.

                    Question for you guys when you build a device on a pcb board how is it best to power it ? Run 5V to the 5v pin from a cell phone charger or use a 9v 1amp or similar transformer and run it to the VIN pin? Either way I usually use a 3.3 volt regulator for the radio. But I am curious if one way is better then the other?

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                    @jlieffort
                    Glad you were finally able to get it to work! I don't use UI7 yet so unfortunately I can't provide much assistance with why it didn't work. Maybe next time try to manually assign a node ID instead of auto assigning them?

                    As for the power I use 5v almost always. That way I can power my other 5v sensors directly from the source instead of the Arduino. I think you should be fine with 9v just be careful with anything over that. I used 12v once and it fried my Pro Mini clone. Now I always use 5v :)

                    My "How To" home automation video channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq_Evyh5PQALx4m4CQuxqkA

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                    • petewillP petewill

                      @jlieffort
                      Glad you were finally able to get it to work! I don't use UI7 yet so unfortunately I can't provide much assistance with why it didn't work. Maybe next time try to manually assign a node ID instead of auto assigning them?

                      As for the power I use 5v almost always. That way I can power my other 5v sensors directly from the source instead of the Arduino. I think you should be fine with 9v just be careful with anything over that. I used 12v once and it fried my Pro Mini clone. Now I always use 5v :)

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                      @petewill
                      I assume you bring the 5v into the 5v pin on the Arduino, not the VIN pin?

                      Update on the Ethernet gateway and the Vera Edge UI7 version 1.7.1707. It's working perfectly now, built a 4 relay sensor last night as a test and it added through the UI no problem at all. Sometimes the vera just acts wonky, you can reboot it, reload the engine, jump up and down and it still won't work like you think it should or it did yesterday. Come back the next day and it's working perfect. Of course when troubleshooting an issue this is a real PITA.

                      All but one of mysensors are communicating OK with the new gateway, the one that isn't is the furthest away from the new gateway.

                      Which leads me to a question, does the repeater functionality work? and do the mysensors work with other zwave repeaters, like light bulbs for instance? or do they just work with each other?

                      I'm trying to think of a way to communicate with that sensor on the other end of the house.

                      Thanks as always you've been my mentor into the world of home automation and especially mysensors.
                      :smile:

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                        @jlieffort said:

                        and do the mysensors work with other zwave repeaters,

                        No, z-wave uses a completely different radio protocol (and frequency).

                        Adding a mysensors repeater node should help resolving your distance problems.
                        Or if you already have a awake node closer to the problematic one, just convert it to a repeater.

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                          @jlieffort said:

                          and do the mysensors work with other zwave repeaters,

                          No, z-wave uses a completely different radio protocol (and frequency).

                          Adding a mysensors repeater node should help resolving your distance problems.
                          Or if you already have a awake node closer to the problematic one, just convert it to a repeater.

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                          @hek

                          Thanks hek I'll move a mysensors smart plug with repeater to see if that helps.

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                            @hek

                            Thanks hek I'll move a mysensors smart plug with repeater to see if that helps.

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                            @jlieffort Sorry for not responding sooner. Like Hek said, a repeater should work great. You can also try adding an antenna mod like I did here. It has worked great in my house.

                            https://youtu.be/NpMnauHeR7Y

                            My "How To" home automation video channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq_Evyh5PQALx4m4CQuxqkA

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                            • petewillP petewill

                              @jlieffort Sorry for not responding sooner. Like Hek said, a repeater should work great. You can also try adding an antenna mod like I did here. It has worked great in my house.

                              https://youtu.be/NpMnauHeR7Y

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                              @petewill

                              Ethernet Gateway alive and well !

                              Thanks for the help

                              0_1459457700890_Ethernet Gateway.jpg

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                                @petewill

                                Ethernet Gateway alive and well !

                                Thanks for the help

                                0_1459457700890_Ethernet Gateway.jpg

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                                @jlieffort :thumbsup:

                                My "How To" home automation video channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq_Evyh5PQALx4m4CQuxqkA

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