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  • Stephan NollerS Stephan Noller

    Hi guys,
    amazing board! But i have a question: The Arduino IDE offerst two options as destination - 8MHz and 1MHz. Which one should i chose? My board seems to work in general, but not very realiable...

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    Sparkman
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    #248

    @Stephan-Noller Out of the box, I had to use the 8MHz option to upload the sketch to it.

    Cheers
    Al

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      #249

      The sensebender is set up to run at 8Mhz. There is an option to build it for 1Mhz, but you have to switch the prescaler yourself in your sketch.

      However I think the current consumption saved by running on 1Mhz vs 8Mhz is very limited on the sensebender, as the oscillator is shut down the majority of time (when we are sleeping the MCU).
      . I have not made any measurements on this yet (busy with a 1000 of other projects)

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      • RJ_MakeR RJ_Make

        @Sparkman
        I wounder if that is being caused by the loading of the battery and the moment the battery info is being calculated......

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        wrote on last edited by Sparkman
        #250

        @ServiceXp Your hunch was correct. I built another Sensebender that only transmitted battery levels, and it's battery levels did not vary at all:

        sb1.PNG

        I then modified the sketch to put a short wait after the temp & humidity are sent to allow the voltage level to recover and the battery levels do not fluctuate so far. However, I'm thinking it would be better to always measure right after a transmit, but not sure if that's easy to do.

        Cheers
        Al

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        • SparkmanS Sparkman

          @ServiceXp Your hunch was correct. I built another Sensebender that only transmitted battery levels, and it's battery levels did not vary at all:

          sb1.PNG

          I then modified the sketch to put a short wait after the temp & humidity are sent to allow the voltage level to recover and the battery levels do not fluctuate so far. However, I'm thinking it would be better to always measure right after a transmit, but not sure if that's easy to do.

          Cheers
          Al

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          @Sparkman Thanks for the follow up.

          RJ_Make

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          • epierreE epierre

            @hek

            I started it plugged to a vinduino like schema, so I had this :

            Sensebender Micro FW 1.2 - TestMode
            Testing peripherals!
            -> SI7021 : ok!
            -> Flash : failed!
            -> SHA204 : Ok (serial : 01232F36E159E8ADEE)
            Test finished
            ----> Selftest failed!
            

            I read your posts, replaces 1.4.1 libs by 1.5, reflashed it with the demo code and here is what I have:

            Sensebender Micro FW 1.2radio init fail
            

            is that because I don't have a 1.5 serial gateway ?

            I have the socket and the FTDI on the same side so I may avoid the above ?

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            wrote on last edited by epierre
            #252

            @hek can anyone help me, no unit is functionnal so far...

            @epierre said:

            @hek

            I started it plugged to a vinduino like schema, so I had this :

            Sensebender Micro FW 1.2 - TestMode
            Testing peripherals!
            -> SI7021 : ok!
            -> Flash : failed!
            -> SHA204 : Ok (serial : 01232F36E159E8ADEE)
            Test finished
            ----> Selftest failed!
            

            I read your posts, replaces 1.4.1 libs by 1.5, reflashed it with the demo code and here is what I have:

            Sensebender Micro FW 1.2radio init fail
            

            is that because I don't have a 1.5 serial gateway ?

            I have the socket and the FTDI on the same side so I may avoid the above ?

            z-wave - Vera -> Domoticz
            rfx - Domoticz <- MyDomoAtHome <- Imperihome
            mysensors -> mysensors-gw -> Domoticz

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              wrote on last edited by
              #253

              @epierre said:

              is that because I don't have a 1.5 serial gateway ?

              Gateway version shouldn't matter if you get this message at startup of node.

              I have the socket and the FTDI on the same side so I may avoid the above ?

              I don't understand what you mean.

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              • hekH hek

                @epierre said:

                is that because I don't have a 1.5 serial gateway ?

                Gateway version shouldn't matter if you get this message at startup of node.

                I have the socket and the FTDI on the same side so I may avoid the above ?

                I don't understand what you mean.

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                epierre
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                wrote on last edited by
                #254

                @hek said:

                @epierre said:

                is that because I don't have a 1.5 serial gateway ?

                Gateway version shouldn't matter if you get this message at startup of node.

                what should I do from there ?

                I have the socket and the FTDI on the same side so I may avoid the above ?

                I don't understand what you mean.

                this was related to the electric perturbation with headers close to the radio

                z-wave - Vera -> Domoticz
                rfx - Domoticz <- MyDomoAtHome <- Imperihome
                mysensors -> mysensors-gw -> Domoticz

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                • epierreE epierre

                  @hek said:

                  @epierre said:

                  is that because I don't have a 1.5 serial gateway ?

                  Gateway version shouldn't matter if you get this message at startup of node.

                  what should I do from there ?

                  I have the socket and the FTDI on the same side so I may avoid the above ?

                  I don't understand what you mean.

                  this was related to the electric perturbation with headers close to the radio

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                  Sparkman
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                  #255

                  @epierre Can you confirm the settings you used in the IDE to program it? Are you sure there are no solder bridges where you soldered the radio or socket for the radio? Have you tried powering it with a couple of AA batteries after you uploaded the sketch?

                  Cheers
                  Al

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                    Heinz
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                    wrote on last edited by
                    #256

                    Today I integrated my first 2 sensebender micros into my homeautomation and they almost worked out of the box. I like this board really much! Good work, I will order more!

                    Pitfall:
                    When updating the mysensors lib from 1.4.x to 1.5 the sensor failed to get an id from the controller which btw was still running on 1.4.x.
                    After having done all the things like "clearing eeprom", "soldering a capacitor to the radio" and so on... I noticed that I changed the RF_CHANNEL from the default 76 to some other value in MyConfig.h some months ago (probably for some paranoia reason).
                    When updating to lib 1.5 the sensor sketch got the 76 while the gateway still used the other one and so the communication between both failed. After changing the radio channel to the one the controller uses, everything worked very quickly!

                    Probably this post helps someother guy who fell into the same trap.

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                      johnr
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                      #257

                      Hi,

                      My sense bender works perfect when sending directly data directly to serial gateway (vera 5), however when I move it out of range to the serial gateway and want it to connect to my repeater node it does not want to discover the repeater node. Anyone else had this problem?

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                        hek
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                        wrote on last edited by
                        #258

                        Remember that it takes a few ( ~5) failed transmits until it searches for a new parent node.

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                        • J johnr

                          Hi,

                          My sense bender works perfect when sending directly data directly to serial gateway (vera 5), however when I move it out of range to the serial gateway and want it to connect to my repeater node it does not want to discover the repeater node. Anyone else had this problem?

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                          Dwalt
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #259

                          @johnr

                          Is your repeater node still on MySensors 1.4? I had a similar problem and upgrading to 1.5 solved it.

                          Veralite UI5 :: IBoard Ethernet GW :: MyS 1.5

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                            johnr
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #260

                            You are probably right. I did not realise sense bender was pre loaded with 1.5

                            I think easiest for me would be to downgrade sense bender to 1.4 is it possible?

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                              tbowmo
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                              wrote on last edited by
                              #261

                              Sensebender is still on 1.4, as we haven't prepared new firmware for it yet.

                              Mysensors 1.4 and 1.5 should be compatible with each other, right @hek ?

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                                hek
                                Admin
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #262

                                Yes, it should.

                                But as @Dewalt says, there was a bug in repeater functionality. So upgrading the repeater is a good tip.

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                                  johnr
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #263

                                  Upgrading repeater to 1.5 solved this issue. Thanks for the quick help. 1.4 sensors communicate OK with the 1.5 repeater as far as I can see right now.

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                                    Fabien
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #264

                                    I try to make a 3D box for SenseBender Micro with CR123 battery.
                                    Screenchot :
                                    Boitier.png

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                                      Fabien
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #265

                                      first print test : IMG_20150921_230740.jpg
                                      IMG_20150921_230820.jpg

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                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #266

                                        @Fabien

                                        Nice work, what is the dimensions of the enclosure?

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                                          #267

                                          @mvader said:
                                          question about the default sketch for this board.
                                          if i read correctly

                                          
                                          // How many milli seconds between each measurement
                                          #define MEASURE_INTERVAL 60000
                                          
                                          // How many milli seconds should we wait for OTA?
                                          #define OTA_WAIT_PERIOD 300
                                          
                                          // FORCE_TRANSMIT_INTERVAL, this number of times of wakeup, the sensor is forced to report all values to the controller
                                          #define FORCE_TRANSMIT_INTERVAL 30 
                                          
                                          // When MEASURE_INTERVAL is 60000 and FORCE_TRANSMIT_INTERVAL is 30, we force a transmission every 30 minutes.
                                          // Between the forced transmissions a tranmission will only occur if the measured value differs from the previous measurement
                                          
                                          // HUMI_TRANSMIT_THRESHOLD tells how much the humidity should have changed since last time it was transmitted. Likewise with
                                          // TEMP_TRANSMIT_THRESHOLD for temperature threshold.
                                          #define HUMI_TRANSMIT_THRESHOLD 0.5
                                          #define TEMP_TRANSMIT_THRESHOLD 0.5
                                          

                                          if temps don't change more than .5 i shouldn't see a transmit but once every 30 minutes
                                          i have 2 running right now
                                          and both send temp and humidity every 1-2 minutes and the numbers are the same or in some cases only different by .1
                                          i have it set to .5 so the question is

                                          1. why does it transmit every minutes when the temp and humidity are the same
                                          2. why is it transmitting even with as little as .1 change
                                            1 board is running 1.2 and the other is running the 1.3 sketch from git
                                            Battery however does transmit every 60 minutes as it's supposed to.,
                                            thx
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