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  • AnticimexA Anticimex

    @hek cool. Can Vera do that now? Vera lite as well? Though the data miner plugin only could use USB mounts.

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    #331

    @Anticimex said:

    Can Vera do that now? Vera lite as well? Though the data miner plugin only could use USB mounts.

    Na, a little hack
    http://forum.micasaverde.com/index.php/topic,14910.0.html

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      Hello,
      I've just received my sensebender boards and start playing with it.

      My first goal is to make a door sensor running on battery. I will not use the integrated temp/hum sensor for battery purpose, and use interrupt to have the sensor on sleep the majority of time.

      Looking at the sketch given with temp/hum, I have one question;

      on the loop function, we have

      if ((measureCount == 5) && highfreq) 
        {
          clock_prescale_set(clock_div_8); // Switch to 1Mhz for the reminder of the sketch, save power.
          highfreq = false;
        } 
      

      But I don't really understand this ; highfreq is initialized to true in the declaration, and never again. So, does this clock_prescale_set is call only once, meangin that the sensor will run at 1Mhz all the time ?
      It is the 5 first mesure that are running at normal speed, and then the sensor goes into a "battery efficient" mode ?
      Why waiting for 5 mesure to do so, and not doing it at startup ?

      Thanks for your explanation !

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        @petoulachi said:

        But I don't really understand this ; highfreq is initialized to true in the declaration, and never again. So, does this clock_prescale_set is call only once, meangin that the sensor will run at 1Mhz all the time ?
        It is the 5 first mesure that are running at normal speed, and then the sensor goes into a "battery efficient" mode ?
        Why waiting for 5 mesure to do so, and not doing it at startup ?

        Thanks for your explanation !

        It's waiting with switching to lower frequency, because it is dumping debug information to the serial port. And when you switch to 1Mhz, the baudrate is "screwed".

        When that's said, my opinion is that there is not much power to save, with switching to 1Mhz. This is because the MCU is sleeping most of the time, with the RC oscillator switched off. I am thinking that the freq. scaling should be removed in the comming releases

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          #334

          Oooh so I guess that also explain why I have strange output on the serial using the default sketch ?

          Well, I'll start without touching frequency and see how it behave in the next month. This is the sketch I use (not tested yet !). Sleeping all the time, awake but interrupt. When awake, send the Battery % if different from last mesure.

          /**
           * The MySensors Arduino library handles the wireless radio link and protocol
           * between your home built sensors/actuators and HA controller of choice.
           * The sensors forms a self healing radio network with optional repeaters. Each
           * repeater and gateway builds a routing tables in EEPROM which keeps track of the
           * network topology allowing messages to be routed to nodes.
           *
           * Created by Henrik Ekblad <henrik.ekblad@mysensors.org>
           * Copyright (C) 2013-2015 Sensnology AB
           * Full contributor list: https://github.com/mysensors/Arduino/graphs/contributors
           *
           * Documentation: http://www.mysensors.org
           * Support Forum: http://forum.mysensors.org
           *
           * This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or
           * modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License
           * version 2 as published by the Free Software Foundation.
           *
           *******************************
           *
           * REVISION HISTORY
           * Version 1.0 - Henrik Ekblad
           * 
           * DESCRIPTION
           * Default sensor sketch for Sensebender Micro module
           * Act as a temperature / humidity sensor by default.
           *
           * If A0 is held low while powering on, it will enter testmode, which verifies all on-board peripherals
           *  
           * Battery voltage is as battery percentage (Internal message), and optionally as a sensor value (See defines below)
           *
           */
          
          
          #include <MySensor.h>
          #include <Wire.h>
          #include <SPI.h>
          #include "utility/SPIFlash.h"
          #include <EEPROM.h>  
          #include <avr/power.h>
          
          
          #define RELEASE "1.0"
          
          // Child sensor ID's
          
          #define DIGITAL_INPUT_SENSOR 3   // The digital input you attached your motion sensor.  (Only 2 and 3 generates interrupt!)
          #define INTERRUPT DIGITAL_INPUT_SENSOR-2 // Usually the interrupt = pin -2 (on uno/nano anyway)
          #define CHILD_ID_DOOR 1   // Id of the sensor child
          
          
          MySensor gw;
          
          // Sensor messages
          MyMessage msgDoor(CHILD_ID_DOOR, V_TRIPPED);
          
          // Global settings
          int measureCount = 0;
          int sendBattery = 0;
          boolean highfreq = true;
          
          // Storage of old measurements
          long lastBattery = -100;
          boolean oldDoorValue;
          
          /****************************************************
           *
           * Setup code 
           *
           ****************************************************/
          void setup() {
            Serial.begin(115200);
            Serial.print(F("Sensebender Micro FW "));
            Serial.print(RELEASE);
            Serial.flush();
            
            gw.begin();
          
            Serial.flush();
            Serial.println(F(" - Online!"));
            gw.sendSketchInfo("Battery Door", RELEASE);
          
            // sets the motion sensor digital pin as input
            pinMode(DIGITAL_INPUT_SENSOR, INPUT);     
            // Activate internal pull-ups
            digitalWrite(DIGITAL_INPUT_SENSOR, HIGH);
            
             // Register all sensors to gw (they will be created as child devices)
            gw.present(CHILD_ID_DOOR, S_DOOR);
          }
          
          
          /***********************************************
           *
           *  Main loop function
           *
           ***********************************************/
          void loop() {
            gw.process();
          
            sendBattLevel(false); 
            door(false);
            
            gw.sleep(INTERRUPT, CHANGE, 0);
          }
          
          //  Check if digital input has changed and send in new value
          void door(bool force) 
          {
            // Short delay to allow buttons to properly settle
            sensor_node.sleep(5);
            
            bool tx = force;
            
            boolean tripped = digitalRead(DIGITAL_INPUT_SENSOR) == HIGH; 
            
            if (tripped != oldDoorValue) 
            {
              tx = true;
              oldDoorValue = tripped;
            }
            if (tx)
            {
               // Send in the new value
               gw.send(msgDoor.set(tripped ?  1 : 0));  // Send tripped value to gw 
            }
          } 
          
          
          
          /********************************************
           *
           * Sends battery information (battery percentage)
           *
           * Parameters
           * - force : Forces transmission of a value
           *
           *******************************************/
          void sendBattLevel(bool force)
          {
            if (force) lastBattery = -1;
            
            long vcc = readVcc();
            
            if (vcc != lastBattery) 
            {
              lastBattery = vcc;
          
              // Calculate percentage
              vcc = vcc - 1900; // subtract 1.9V from vcc, as this is the lowest voltage we will operate at
              long percent = vcc / 14.0;
              gw.sendBatteryLevel(percent);
            }
          }
          
          /*******************************************
           *
           * Internal battery ADC measuring 
           *
           *******************************************/
          long readVcc() {
            // Read 1.1V reference against AVcc
            // set the reference to Vcc and the measurement to the internal 1.1V reference
            #if defined(__AVR_ATmega32U4__) || defined(__AVR_ATmega1280__) || defined(__AVR_ATmega2560__)
              ADMUX = _BV(REFS0) | _BV(MUX4) | _BV(MUX3) | _BV(MUX2) | _BV(MUX1);
            #elif defined (__AVR_ATtiny24__) || defined(__AVR_ATtiny44__) || defined(__AVR_ATtiny84__)
              ADMUX = _BV(MUX5) | _BV(MUX0);
            #elif defined (__AVR_ATtiny25__) || defined(__AVR_ATtiny45__) || defined(__AVR_ATtiny85__)
              ADcdMUX = _BV(MUX3) | _BV(MUX2);
            #else
              ADMUX = _BV(REFS0) | _BV(MUX3) | _BV(MUX2) | _BV(MUX1);
            #endif  
           
            delay(2); // Wait for Vref to settle
            ADCSRA |= _BV(ADSC); // Start conversion
            while (bit_is_set(ADCSRA,ADSC)); // measuring
           
            uint8_t low  = ADCL; // must read ADCL first - it then locks ADCH  
            uint8_t high = ADCH; // unlocks both
           
            long result = (high<<8) | low;
           
            result = 1125300L / result; // Calculate Vcc (in mV); 1125300 = 1.1*1023*1000
            return result; // Vcc in millivolts
          }
          
          

          BTW, what is the F() function ? instead of Serial.print("Sensebender Micro FW "); why using Serial.print(F("Sensebender Micro FW ")); ?

          Thanks !

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            #335

            Started to solder my 6 sensebender. I've noticed that if I set it to 1Mhz directly, the sensor cannot register itself on the gateway (but unfortunately I dont know why because there's no serial). Putting it at 8Mhz, being detected by the GW with an ID, and I can set it back to 1mhz. Weird.

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              #336

              Oh and BTW, which boxes are you using with your Sensebender ? I guess it's maybe the most difficult part of the entire project, finding the perfect box :D

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                #337

                No, finding a box is the easiest part. This is the "box" for my outdoor temperature. :satisfied:
                sensebender.jpg

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                  #338

                  Wonder how well the hum-sensors work in that enclosure :)

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                    finge
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                    #339

                    Hmm, would Gore-Tex work? I will try find a Gore-Tex bag for the next version :)

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                    • F Fabien

                      @5546dug said:

                      @fabian how is the box working out were there any mods and are the stl files ready yet?

                      Sorry, my 3D printer is out of service, I'm waiting for chinese parts ... I will post correct STL files in 1 or 2 weeks.

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                      #340

                      @Fabien said:

                      @5546dug said:

                      @fabian how is the box working out were there any mods and are the stl files ready yet?

                      Sorry, my 3D printer is out of service, I'm waiting for chinese parts ... I will post correct STL files in 1 or 2 weeks.

                      @Fabien @5546dug
                      Hi, any news on this please? I would be good to get a box by Christmas.

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                      • petoulachiP petoulachi

                        Oh and BTW, which boxes are you using with your Sensebender ? I guess it's maybe the most difficult part of the entire project, finding the perfect box :D

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                        @petoulachi

                        The sketch have improved a lot since we released the sensebender, mostly on determining when to power up the radio and transmit. This should save more power. I've got one running with latest development, without hiccups for the last couple of months (it also have Ota fw upgrade enabled by default now).

                        So if you are "adventurous" I would recommend to put that into your sensebenders

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                          #342

                          I am adventurous !

                          Were can I find the beta version of the sketch ?

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                            https://github.com/mysensors/Arduino/tree/development/libraries/MySensors/examples/SensebenderMicro

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                              petoulachi
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                              #344

                              Thanks !

                              I took a look at the sketch, I didn't know there was a presentation() method to implement to present the different sensor's ID; is this new ? when is it called? I guess after setup() ?

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                              • petoulachiP petoulachi

                                Thanks !

                                I took a look at the sketch, I didn't know there was a presentation() method to implement to present the different sensor's ID; is this new ? when is it called? I guess after setup() ?

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                                wrote on last edited by
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                                @petoulachi

                                That's a part of the development. Things are re-arranged in the sketches, to make things more configurable (from within the sketch itself).

                                It will be part of the next release (I don't know when that is happening)

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                                  #346

                                  Ok, related to MySensors 1.6 tehen, that explain why I never seen this !

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                                    #347

                                    HI, I'm about to experiment with a modded version of the sensebender and I while looking at the schematics of the original sensebender, I see that the crystal does not have any pf capasitors and not connected to GND. Why is that?

                                    All other schematics of atmega or any microprocessor I've seen has dual 22pf caps over the crystal and connected to ground.

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                                      @Magnus-Pernemark

                                      The sensebender was designed to use a 32Khz oscillator for lowpower operation. According to the datasheet (page 33) it is not necessary to have external load capacitors if the crystals datasheet specifies cL below 6pF.

                                      However, we decided early on that an external crystal is not necessary in our application. So that is why it is not mounted, but the pads are still there, in case someone would use it.

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                                      • tbowmoT tbowmo

                                        @Magnus-Pernemark

                                        The sensebender was designed to use a 32Khz oscillator for lowpower operation. According to the datasheet (page 33) it is not necessary to have external load capacitors if the crystals datasheet specifies cL below 6pF.

                                        However, we decided early on that an external crystal is not necessary in our application. So that is why it is not mounted, but the pads are still there, in case someone would use it.

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                                        @tbowmo Thanks! Yes. I read that it was not needed, but since it said "if you want higher precision" I though that, higher is good, and it would not hurt to place one there. But the crystals I have are 12.5pf so I guess I can't use them, but on the other hand I don't need to buy any other

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                                          #350

                                          Did someone "test" the humidity precision of the Si7021on the sensbender? Of corse the datasheet says max 3% off but how reliable is that?

                                          I have other sensors here and they differ by about 10%. So I did a "Salt-Calibration-Test" and there my two sensbenders or better Si7021 are 6% over the reference value. They report 81% and it should be 75%.

                                          Note: It's my first time that I performed this test and I'm not 100% sure that the (water-salt-ratio) is correct - thats why I'm interested if someone else tested the values?

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