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  • hekH Offline
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    hek
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    #86

    Sweet.. hope it arrives before the weekend then.

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      @Stric Did you get a "avi", or did they end up in the mail-box directly? I got a "avi" today but it might be also for any of the constant inflow of stuff from aliexpress... Can't wait for my 4 pieces Sensebender to show up! :)

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        @Stric Did you get a "avi", or did they end up in the mail-box directly? I got a "avi" today but it might be also for any of the constant inflow of stuff from aliexpress... Can't wait for my 4 pieces Sensebender to show up! :)

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        @HenkeP Got an avi, RsomethingsomethingHK I believe.. The box said "10 printed circuit boards", which is a funny way of saying "3 printed circuit boards + some stuff".

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          Were you able to track the items? My tracking number says that it left Hong Kong yesterday to my destination (Germany). Can't wait to get the first batch into hands.

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            #90

            I can confirm that the first sensebenders now also have arrived in Gothenburg, Sweden.

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              #91

              My first Senseboard is now Up and Running. Have even tested to reinstall the sketch. No issues so far. Thanx for this product.

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                @gol

                Nice to hear :)

                I have to wait until Monday, before I can pick mine up at the post office.. (they tried to deliver it today, when I wasn't at home, so just left me a note that I could pick it up on Monday)

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                • G gol

                  My first Senseboard is now Up and Running. Have even tested to reinstall the sketch. No issues so far. Thanx for this product.

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                  @gol said:

                  My first Senseboard is now Up and Running. Have even tested to reinstall the sketch. No issues so far. Thanx for this product.

                  This is not a 'product', this is pure fun ;)

                  Fulltime Servoy Developer
                  Parttime Moderator MySensors board

                  I use Domoticz as controller for Z-Wave and MySensors (previously Indigo and OpenHAB).
                  I have a FABtotum to print cases.

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                    #94

                    Picked up my four devices yesterday and two of them are up and running using the pre-loaded sketch and it works like a charm!

                    But i have a question regarding the battery level reporting, I can see the following in the code:

                    // Battery voltage is repported as child sensorId 199, as well as battery percentage (Internal message)
                    

                    But it seems to only present temp and hum as sensors and no voltage:

                    gw.present(CHILD_ID_TEMP,S_TEMP);
                    gw.present(CHILD_ID_HUM,S_HUM);
                    

                    What is it i'm failing to understand? I just setup Domoticz and in there I have not yet got a good way of presenting historical battery levels, it just shows the latest internal battery level message. To get a better understanding on the battery life performance it is necessary to be able to create a graph. I thought I could use the voltage level for this but I can only see the internal message :-(

                    Thanks,
                    Henrik

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                      #95

                      @HenkeP

                      That's a leftover from my initial battery monitoring code. It could be re-implemented quite easily, in the battery reporting routine, you could report actual voltage measured, as an extra sensor

                      (I actually thought that I had removed everything related to the old monitoring code)

                      Edited

                      I have updated the sketch for sensebender micro, to include sending battery voltage measurements as a sensor value. This is not enabled by default though, and people need to recompile it, with a #define uncommented.

                      do a pull from mysensors github, to get the latest sourcecode

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                      • hekH hek

                        @hautomate said:

                        3,091 in stock

                        That's the old A10. It would probably work but A20 has some firmware fixes and more tests performed on it.
                        I have nothing to say about the price. It is the same as for A20.. As you can see it is the most expensive part on the micro board (30% of it's price).

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                        @hek said:

                        That's the old A10. It would probably work but A20 has some firmware fixes and more tests performed on it.
                        I have nothing to say about the price. It is the same as for A20.. As you can see it is the most expensive part on the micro board (30% of it's price).

                        Would you consider a Sensebender Micro Light-version without this component? i mean, if it's 30 % of the price, not available and not imo a critical component (you could always add your own humidity/temp sensors), there are quite a few reasons why a light version would be tempting. At least to me. :)

                        Cheers,
                        Tim

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                          @twosh @hek A Sensebender Light would be great is my opinion. Im not looking for these advances futures, only a simple and as cheap as possible board to run on batteries and a temp sensor. Br Andreas

                          Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                          MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                          MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                          RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                            #98

                            @twosh, @sundberg84

                            Well, it's a temperature sensor, and humidity in one :). If you are going to use other sensor types (DS1820, or cheaper humidity/temperature sensors), you also need to have a booster circuit, in order to boost battery voltage to 3V minimum (as they don't operate on voltages lower than that).

                            So in the end, you'll buy both booster circuits, and sensors, which will be close to the same price as the Si7021 in the end, to get the same functionality.

                            And since you (probably) are using a cheap booster circuit from ebay, the battery would not last that long, so you buy lot's of batteries to feed the booster circuitry :)

                            But when that's said, we could ask itead if they could make a "barebone" unit, without the Si7021 mounted, and then provide a quote on that type of sensor.

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                              @tbowmo

                              Thank you for your answer tbowmo - i see your logic.
                              But if you want to use it with say, light, motion or another sensor with this board - do I need a booster?

                              Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                              MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                              MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                              RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                                I'll add my voice to the requests for a 'lite' version of the Sensebender Micro board. My ideal would be to provide an option without the A20 secure signing IC placed, but leaving the Si7021 in.

                                Cheers
                                Richard

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                                  @hawk_2050

                                  Well, the atsha204 is only about 0.5$ in price, so the savings will be very little.

                                  @sundberg84
                                  If it's a pure motion sensor then I can see a point in using a light edition. I have requested a quote from itead on a light edition.

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                                    @tbowmo It was just a thought I came up with and thought to share my idea and arguments. :)
                                    I think the Sensebender Micro is great especially if you would like to monitor temperatures (which of course many of us wants to), but I just think that a less expensive, light option (that would be available to order... :) ) could appeal to many. Great that you have requested a quote!

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                                      #103

                                      Just as a reference, the boost regulators I did, based on the TPS61221, cost something like $1.7, including the (very small) PCB. The TPS61221 is about $1 out of that cost. And I did not use the cheapest inductor exactly. Plus the cost of small volumes and ordering each component individually from AliExpress.

                                      Don't have any testing equipment, and I haven't done any long term tests, but the prototype I did was perfectly able to run a mysensors node, including the motion detector module, and a small buzzer, on just one AA battery.

                                      Not to say that I also wouldn't like pads for the Si7021 at least. It's a damn fine chip, hence the cost.

                                      I think that in the long run, we should think about some sort of mini shield system where a base board can be extended, so (almost) everyone can get what they want. At the expense of bulkier designs, but it would be a choice for the end-user and everything comes at a cost anyway.

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                                        Got mine yesterday (Switzerland)!

                                        I really like the design of the board. Only improvement I wish: integrated NRF24L01+ :-)

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                                          @hawk_2050

                                          Well, the atsha204 is only about 0.5$ in price, so the savings will be very little.

                                          @sundberg84
                                          If it's a pure motion sensor then I can see a point in using a light edition. I have requested a quote from itead on a light edition.

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                                          @tbowmo, ah, sorry misunderstanding then. I thought it was the atsha204 that was contributing 30% of the cost, but I guess it's the Si7021, which is rather useful to have!

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