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  • A andriej

    @Sparkman thank you for your reply!
    So I'd need two transistors - that's ok... But how (and which one) do I connect to DATA pin (as I assume)?
    Or i could bridge P1 and P2 mentioned on schematics above?

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    @andriej P1 would connect to the data pin. Ignore P2 as it is just ground.

    Cheers
    Al

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      @andriej P1 would connect to the data pin. Ignore P2 as it is just ground.

      Cheers
      Al

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      @Sparkman Right, now I see.
      Will NPN (2N2222 which I have) do the job?

      :-)

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        @Sparkman Right, now I see.
        Will NPN (2N2222 which I have) do the job?

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        @andriej It'll do the job of Q1, but Q2 is a PNP transistor. For it you would need something like the 2N2907, 2N3906 or 2N4403.

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          @andriej It'll do the job of Q1, but Q2 is a PNP transistor. For it you would need something like the 2N2907, 2N3906 or 2N4403.

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          @Sparkman time for getting parts as I don't have PNP in house.
          Thank you. :-) Tommorow I'll test it out.

          Just to be 100% sure - both GND's should be connected together (Uno's and 12V supply?)

          :-)

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          • A andriej

            @Sparkman time for getting parts as I don't have PNP in house.
            Thank you. :-) Tommorow I'll test it out.

            Just to be 100% sure - both GND's should be connected together (Uno's and 12V supply?)

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            @andriej said:

            Just to be 100% sure - both GND's should be connected together (Uno's and 12V supply?)

            Yes, that's correct.

            Cheers
            Al

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            • SparkmanS Sparkman

              @andriej said:

              Just to be 100% sure - both GND's should be connected together (Uno's and 12V supply?)

              Yes, that's correct.

              Cheers
              Al

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              andriej
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              @Sparkman thank you very much, it worked absolutely flawless. I can now again control the switches, will test it with different voltages and antennas.

              One more thing - I've read some time ago that it might be worth considering a capacitor (polarized one) at least 10uF conected to transmitter's Vcc and GND.
              Do you think it could stabilize power and smooth it even more, so the quality of signal and strenght could be even better?

              As a antenna currently I use the core from coax tv cable, 174mm long - straight without any shielding.

              Regards

              :-)

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              • A andriej

                @Sparkman thank you very much, it worked absolutely flawless. I can now again control the switches, will test it with different voltages and antennas.

                One more thing - I've read some time ago that it might be worth considering a capacitor (polarized one) at least 10uF conected to transmitter's Vcc and GND.
                Do you think it could stabilize power and smooth it even more, so the quality of signal and strenght could be even better?

                As a antenna currently I use the core from coax tv cable, 174mm long - straight without any shielding.

                Regards

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                @andriej Glad to hear it's working. A capacitor between Vcc an GND can help smooth any ripple. It won't hurt to add it if you have one kicking around.

                Cheers
                Al

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                • SparkmanS Sparkman

                  @andriej Glad to hear it's working. A capacitor between Vcc an GND can help smooth any ripple. It won't hurt to add it if you have one kicking around.

                  Cheers
                  Al

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                  @Sparkman strange thing happened and suddenly everything stopped working.
                  After rewiring (still leaving everything the same, just restarting of power supply) it worked for few minutes and stopped.
                  Currently I've moved from ethernet shield to plain Uno (so only 2 pins are used: GND and D2 - TX Data) and still can't get signal out of the module...
                  I even rewrote the code leaving everything not needed outside. Now I will be removing the cap between Vcc and GND.
                  Hope it helps..

                  :-)

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                    The only idea I have is that it stopped working because voltage went 12,4V…
                    But all components (except TX module?) should accept it.
                    I've switched from LAN to serial now and back to normal 5V with special antenna.

                    :-)

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                    • A andriej

                      The only idea I have is that it stopped working because voltage went 12,4V…
                      But all components (except TX module?) should accept it.
                      I've switched from LAN to serial now and back to normal 5V with special antenna.

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                      @andriej Have you tested each component to see if one of them has failed?

                      Cheers
                      Al

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                      • SparkmanS Sparkman

                        @andriej Have you tested each component to see if one of them has failed?

                        Cheers
                        Al

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                        @Sparkman it will be hard for me to test now, as I've soldered everything on breadboard.

                        What other PNP transistor would you fit instead of 2N4403?
                        I will be buying few of them and can't exactly find the 440x's

                        :-)

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                        • A andriej

                          @Sparkman it will be hard for me to test now, as I've soldered everything on breadboard.

                          What other PNP transistor would you fit instead of 2N4403?
                          I will be buying few of them and can't exactly find the 440x's

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                          @andriej Digikey has a good transistor selector. You can see the specs for the 4403 and then find something with similar specs that may be more readily available where you live.

                          http://www.digikey.com/product-search/en?pv7=2&FV=fff40015%2Cfff80078%2C1140050%2C1280002%2C142c0044%2C142c02ca%2C142c1dec&k=transistor&mnonly=0&newproducts=0&ColumnSort=0&page=1&quantity=0&ptm=0&fid=0&pageSize=25

                          Cheers
                          Al

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                            @andriej Digikey has a good transistor selector. You can see the specs for the 4403 and then find something with similar specs that may be more readily available where you live.

                            http://www.digikey.com/product-search/en?pv7=2&FV=fff40015%2Cfff80078%2C1140050%2C1280002%2C142c0044%2C142c02ca%2C142c1dec&k=transistor&mnonly=0&newproducts=0&ColumnSort=0&page=1&quantity=0&ptm=0&fid=0&pageSize=25

                            Cheers
                            Al

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                            @Sparkman Thank you, will find them.
                            I've also ordered some 20mW modules from China manufacturer with specially-made antenna (spring-one).
                            I hope I'll get better range with that, especially that they're made for 3.3V and can be powered with max 5V.

                            :-)

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                              Hi,

                              I create a rflink pcb with this schema rflink_schema.jpeg.
                              I have an emission issue, the module RF 433Mhz Out not have 12v in VOUT+.
                              What could I need to do.

                              This is the pcb design, maybe it needs some improvement.

                              mon_rflink_pcb_design.png

                              mon_rflink_pcb.png

                              Thanks

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