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  • Y Yuki M

    @epierre Thanks for a rapid response!
    Yes I've been trying to calibrate it assuming out door air is at 399ppm. I understand each one has variances but would like to know how you guys worked it out.
    I'm using
    ppm = 116.6020682 (Rs/Ro)^-2.769034857
    from davide's blog http://davidegironi.blogspot.ch/2014/01/cheap-co2-meter-using-mq135-sensor-with.html#.VinvWX4rIuU

    Since the board show RL, I took that to calculate Rs. This lets me calculate Ro, thus calibrate it.

    Not quite sure where I'm going wrong. I had it working 8 months ago, and came back to it and couldn't figure out how i had it working so well.. I was able to get pretty nice graphs and now its very unstable.

    I'm having a play around with it, you can see my current points here https://thingspeak.com/channels/31162

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    @Yuki-M said:

    @epierre Thanks for a rapid response!
    Yes I've been trying to calibrate it assuming out door air is at 399ppm. I understand each one has variances but would like to know how you guys worked it out.
    I'm using
    ppm = 116.6020682 (Rs/Ro)^-2.769034857
    from davide's blog http://davidegironi.blogspot.ch/2014/01/cheap-co2-meter-using-mq135-sensor-with.html#.VinvWX4rIuU

    Since the board show RL, I took that to calculate Rs. This lets me calculate Ro, thus calibrate it.

    Not quite sure where I'm going wrong. I had it working 8 months ago, and came back to it and couldn't figure out how i had it working so well.. I was able to get pretty nice graphs and now its very unstable.

    would say: let it burn for 24/48 hours to leave it clean itself ;-)

    z-wave - Vera -> Domoticz
    rfx - Domoticz <- MyDomoAtHome <- Imperihome
    mysensors -> mysensors-gw -> Domoticz

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      IN MiCS 2614 , sensitivity factor is defined by "Rs at 100 ppb of O3 divided by Rs at 50 ppb of O3". From where you measured Rs at 100 ppb or 50 ppb.???

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        #107

        Adjusting my mq-135 sensor took several atempts as the CO2 value of the atmosphere is not a constant value of 399ppm.
        This value is measured in Hawaii ( see http://co2now.org/ ) and is probably significantly lower than at your home. In germany for example you should calibrate your sensor when the wind comes from west over the atlantic which brings fresh air along. See http://www.donnerwetter.de/deutschland/co2.htm

        Everytime my sensor passed values below 400 I adjusted the R0 value. In the end I modified the sketch to be able to send this R0 value from FHEM to the sensor to avoid recompiling the sketch everytime.
        See
        https://github.com/windkh/mysensors/tree/master/CO2Sensor/CO2sensor.ino Line 440ff

        image.png

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          The sensor is in my kitchen. The value in the screenshot is very high as I made some french fries 2 hours ago.
          image.png

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            #109

            @Heinz so bad I don't have a MQ135 running anymore to compare, here are the MH-Z14 curves I have near my desk.

            chart(6).png

            z-wave - Vera -> Domoticz
            rfx - Domoticz <- MyDomoAtHome <- Imperihome
            mysensors -> mysensors-gw -> Domoticz

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            • B bhavika

              IN MiCS 2614 , sensitivity factor is defined by "Rs at 100 ppb of O3 divided by Rs at 50 ppb of O3". From where you measured Rs at 100 ppb or 50 ppb.???

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              @bhavika said:

              IN MiCS 2614 , sensitivity factor is defined by "Rs at 100 ppb of O3 divided by Rs at 50 ppb of O3". From where you measured Rs at 100 ppb or 50 ppb.???

              this is just to tell you how much a double concentration scales up, here they just say it is somehow linear at ratio 2

              z-wave - Vera -> Domoticz
              rfx - Domoticz <- MyDomoAtHome <- Imperihome
              mysensors -> mysensors-gw -> Domoticz

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                @Heinz very nice work :+1: (wie heisst du im FHEM Forum?)

                Does someone have the values a MQ-07 needs to perform properly? I rally don't know how to gather the right values from the description.... :)

                Thank you

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                  #112

                  @Rasenheizung if you base yourself on my template here https://github.com/empierre/arduino/blob/master/AirQuality-Multiple_Gas_Sensor1_4.ino

                  H2
                  1.3 50
                  0.8 100
                  0.28 400
                  0.16 1000
                  0.05 4000

                  y = 73.59123879 x-1.355617483
                  Residual Sum of Squares: rss = 87393.44418
                  H2Curve[3] = {73.5912, -1.355617};

                  CO
                  1.6 50
                  1 100
                  0.39 400
                  0.21 1000
                  0.09 4000

                  y = 99.27731641 x-1.513643469
                  Residual Sum of Squares: rss = 43168.87424
                  COCurve[3] = {99.27731, -1.51364};

                  CO is a dangerous gas, the MQ7 is very sensitive to many things and no calibration too... for a serious work please think about using the MICS-6814 that is calibrated, includes 3 gases out of the box, and is very low consumption (can run on battery !)
                  https://github.com/empierre/arduino/blob/master/AirQuality-CO-NO2-NH3.ino

                  z-wave - Vera -> Domoticz
                  rfx - Domoticz <- MyDomoAtHome <- Imperihome
                  mysensors -> mysensors-gw -> Domoticz

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                    What is the pre-heating time for TGS2442???

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                      What is the pre-heating time for TGS2442???

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                      #114

                      @bhavika said:

                      What is the pre-heating time for TGS2442???

                      from datasheet: "the sensor’s resistance reaches to 90% of its final value in less than one minute"

                      z-wave - Vera -> Domoticz
                      rfx - Domoticz <- MyDomoAtHome <- Imperihome
                      mysensors -> mysensors-gw -> Domoticz

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                        So what is the conditioning period for testing in it??? It is two days.. What does it mean??

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                          So what is the conditioning period for testing in it??? It is two days.. What does it mean??

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                          @bhavika said:

                          So what is the conditioning period for testing in it??? It is two days.. What does it mean??

                          on this kind maybe to have it powered for a full two days to burn out the production "dusts" that may remain in.

                          those sensors are not good science, see the correlation of gases they are reported for in the datasheet

                          z-wave - Vera -> Domoticz
                          rfx - Domoticz <- MyDomoAtHome <- Imperihome
                          mysensors -> mysensors-gw -> Domoticz

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                            Hello,

                            a very sensitive HCHO module you can see a demo here: http://www.seeedstudio.com/recipe/379-a-handheld-hcho-detector.html?utm_source=EDM&utm_medium=EDM&utm_campaign=EDM20150930

                            https://github.com/empierre/arduino/blob/master/AirQuality-HCHO.ino

                            z-wave - Vera -> Domoticz
                            rfx - Domoticz <- MyDomoAtHome <- Imperihome
                            mysensors -> mysensors-gw -> Domoticz

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                              I have a question for the MQ135. Do not always be above 500 ppm, the measured values? I also get values of 0. I suspect that it is due to the conversion. The values vary greatly. Is that normal? I get the values with an ordinary power supply. mq135 werte.PNG

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                                  Looks strange, could you supply your code?
                                  Btw the sensor draws a lot of current, the power supply should be able to deliver 1A. Did you burn in the sensor for 12-24 hours?

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                                    I have used the code from epiere. Baking I have not done. I use different power supplies (USB, Samsung and a large controllable power supply). I sometimes feel that contacts do not function properly. But the sensor draws but only about 100 mA = 0.1 A? Then it seems to be on branding. I have three new sensors. Mostly we read that it is only an attempt here is to measure the CO2 content. When I check the values with a measuring instrument with which agree the details here https://olimex.wordpress.com/2015/05/26/experimenting-with-gas-sensors-and-arduino/ Branding should work outdoors? Can you show me a chart or values?

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                                        I used this library:
                                        https://github.com/GeorgK/MQ135

                                        Together with this description:
                                        https://hackaday.io/project/3475-sniffing-trinket/log/12363-mq135-arduino-library

                                        Simple to use and very good explanations.

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                                          I've read about. It sounds interesting.

                                          I stand a little hard with the development. Is there a skit for MQ135.h and MYSENSORS?

                                          I will test this afternoon.

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