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  • alexsh1A Offline
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    #172

    @epierre do you think it is a faulty sensor though?

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      #173

      Hello,

      Can I use pinMode(digitalpin, OUTPUT) to turn off sensor? Or Is there any way to wirte a function that turn off sensor?

      I want to remote it on web to turn on or off it.

      Thank you so much !!!

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        #174

        For those who are trying to use an MQ135 module from e-bay or other sellers, on a small pcb with a chip, LED and potmeter:
        It took me a while until I figured out that the little chip has a very big influence on the value that you read on the A-out pin.
        Only after removing the connection between the A-out pin and the little chip, I got normal measurements.

        I also replaced the small resistor marked "102" with a 10k resistor, to make measurements more compatible with code that uses a 10k pull down resistor. But that was already a known issue, found on many other places.

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        • tantt2810T tantt2810

          Hello,

          Can I use pinMode(digitalpin, OUTPUT) to turn off sensor? Or Is there any way to wirte a function that turn off sensor?

          I want to remote it on web to turn on or off it.

          Thank you so much !!!

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          epierre
          Hero Member
          wrote on last edited by
          #175

          @tantt2810 said:

          Hello,

          Can I use pinMode(digitalpin, OUTPUT) to turn off sensor? Or Is there any way to wirte a function that turn off sensor?

          I want to remote it on web to turn on or off it.

          Thank you so much !!!

          well no, powering is through Vcc/GND, so you whould use a switch on this. Digital pins do not gives enough power for such sensors.

          z-wave - Vera -> Domoticz
          rfx - Domoticz <- MyDomoAtHome <- Imperihome
          mysensors -> mysensors-gw -> Domoticz

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          • alexsh1A alexsh1

            @epierre do you think it is a faulty sensor though?

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            epierre
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            wrote on last edited by
            #176

            @alexsh1 said:

            @epierre do you think it is a faulty sensor though?

            coud be, hard to know without possibility to compare to another one.

            z-wave - Vera -> Domoticz
            rfx - Domoticz <- MyDomoAtHome <- Imperihome
            mysensors -> mysensors-gw -> Domoticz

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            • alexsh1A Offline
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              #177

              @epierre

              This is what I discovered. When nobody is around the sensor 'settles' on a particular value. However, when there is anyone around in the room, the sensor reading goes up and down - see the snapshot attached. Any idea what the problem may be?

              0_1459957501388_Untitled.jpg

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              • epierreE Offline
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                epierre
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                wrote on last edited by
                #178

                @alexsh1 hard to say, could be something moving inside if someone makes vibration around and thus this strange reaction... the down curve at the end is correct, the in between not

                z-wave - Vera -> Domoticz
                rfx - Domoticz <- MyDomoAtHome <- Imperihome
                mysensors -> mysensors-gw -> Domoticz

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                • E Offline
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                  Elfnoir
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #179

                  Hi,
                  Can you check the reception level?
                  I had same behaviour with an old temperature/humidity module; need to move it to another place in the room, and works perfectly now :-)

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                  • E Elfnoir

                    Hi,
                    Can you check the reception level?
                    I had same behaviour with an old temperature/humidity module; need to move it to another place in the room, and works perfectly now :-)

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                    epierre
                    Hero Member
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #180

                    @Elfnoir said:

                    ; need to move it to another place in the room, and works perfectly now

                    temp/hum are "less" sensitive on environment, here the sensors heats up to 40-60° (or more) so temp/hum is not the most impacting (I can be wrong anyway ;-)

                    z-wave - Vera -> Domoticz
                    rfx - Domoticz <- MyDomoAtHome <- Imperihome
                    mysensors -> mysensors-gw -> Domoticz

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                    • alexsh1A Offline
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                      #181

                      @epierre I wonder if you looked at this sensor Figaro TGS8100:

                      http://www.figarosensor.com/products/entry/tgs8100.html

                      Looks like it is perfect for a low-powered platform.

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                      • alexsh1A alexsh1

                        @epierre I wonder if you looked at this sensor Figaro TGS8100:

                        http://www.figarosensor.com/products/entry/tgs8100.html

                        Looks like it is perfect for a low-powered platform.

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                        epierre
                        Hero Member
                        wrote on last edited by epierre
                        #182

                        @alexsh1 said:

                        @epierre I wonder if you looked at this sensor Figaro TGS8100:

                        http://www.figarosensor.com/products/entry/tgs8100.html

                        Looks like it is perfect for a low-powered platform.

                        as a replacement for MQ in low power yes could be... the bad part is how to get one ?

                        z-wave - Vera -> Domoticz
                        rfx - Domoticz <- MyDomoAtHome <- Imperihome
                        mysensors -> mysensors-gw -> Domoticz

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                        • epierreE epierre

                          @alexsh1 said:

                          @epierre I wonder if you looked at this sensor Figaro TGS8100:

                          http://www.figarosensor.com/products/entry/tgs8100.html

                          Looks like it is perfect for a low-powered platform.

                          as a replacement for MQ in low power yes could be... the bad part is how to get one ?

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                          alexsh1
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #183

                          @epierre said:
                          the bad part is how to get one ?

                          How about http://www.soselectronic.com/?str=371&artnum=170939&name=figaro-tgs8100 ?

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                          • epierreE epierre

                            I'm now testing the MICS-6814 (3 sensors in one) given for :
                            Carbon monoxide CO 1 -1000ppm
                            **Nitrogen dioxide NO2 0.05 –10ppm **
                            Ethanol C2H5OH 10 –500ppm
                            Hydrogen H2 1 –1000ppm
                            Ammonia NH3 1 –500ppm
                            Methane CH4 >1000ppm
                            Propane C3H8 >1000ppm
                            Iso-butane C4H10 >1000ppm

                            Datasheet maionly speaks on CO, NO2 and NH3:
                            http://www.seeedstudio.com/wiki/images/1/10/MiCS-6814_Datasheet.pdf

                            Here is are scripts:
                            http://www.seeedstudio.com/wiki/Grove_-_Multichannel_Gas_Sensor

                            http://www.seeedstudio.com/wiki/images/1/10/MiCS-6814_Datasheet.pdf

                            Some readings:

                            The concentration of NH3 is 0.99 ppm
                            The concentration of CO is 1.20 ppm
                            The concentration of NO2 is 0.15 ppm
                            The concentration of C3H8 is 1000.04 ppm
                            The concentration of C4H10 is 999.98 ppm
                            The concentration of CH4 is 2991.14 ppm
                            The concentration of H2 is 1.09 ppm
                            The concentration of C2H5OH is 1.40 ppm
                            

                            I guess I'll make a script soon...

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                            #184

                            Hi, It all make sense, I am just confused that in your code once your multiply and once you divide...

                            case CO:
                            {
                            if(ratio1 < 0.01) ratio1 = 0.01;
                            if(ratio1 > 3) ratio1 = 3;
                            //c = pow(10, 0.6) / pow(ratio1, 1.2);
                            ** c = pow(ratio1, -1.179)4.385; //mod by jack*
                            break;
                            }
                            case NO2:
                            {
                            if(ratio2 < 0.07) ratio2 = 0.07;
                            if(ratio2 > 40) ratio2 = 40;
                            //c = ratio2 / pow(10, 0.8);
                            ** c = pow(ratio2, 1.007)/6.855; //mod by jack**
                            break;
                            }
                            SO, what is the actual formula?

                            Vir

                            @epierre said:

                            I'm now testing the MICS-6814 (3 sensors in one) given for :
                            Carbon monoxide CO 1 -1000ppm
                            **Nitrogen dioxide NO2 0.05 –10ppm **
                            Ethanol C2H5OH 10 –500ppm
                            Hydrogen H2 1 –1000ppm
                            Ammonia NH3 1 –500ppm
                            Methane CH4 >1000ppm
                            Propane C3H8 >1000ppm
                            Iso-butane C4H10 >1000ppm

                            Datasheet maionly speaks on CO, NO2 and NH3:
                            http://www.seeedstudio.com/wiki/images/1/10/MiCS-6814_Datasheet.pdf

                            Here is are scripts:
                            http://www.seeedstudio.com/wiki/Grove_-_Multichannel_Gas_Sensor

                            http://www.seeedstudio.com/wiki/images/1/10/MiCS-6814_Datasheet.pdf

                            Some readings:

                            The concentration of NH3 is 0.99 ppm
                            The concentration of CO is 1.20 ppm
                            The concentration of NO2 is 0.15 ppm
                            The concentration of C3H8 is 1000.04 ppm
                            The concentration of C4H10 is 999.98 ppm
                            The concentration of CH4 is 2991.14 ppm
                            The concentration of H2 is 1.09 ppm
                            The concentration of C2H5OH is 1.40 ppm
                            

                            I guess I'll make a script soon...

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                            • epierreE epierre

                              @tantt2810 said:

                              Hello,
                              I'm don't understand the recipe below. Why RL_Value(Load Resistance)(1023-raw_adc)/raw_adc)? Can you explain for me?
                              Thank you so much !!!
                              Input: raw_adc - raw value read from adc, which represents the voltage
                              Output: the calculated sensor resistance
                              Remarks: The sensor and the load resistor forms a voltage divider. Given the voltage
                              across the load resistor and its resistance, the resistance of the sensor
                              could be derived.
                              float MQ2::MQResistanceCalculation(int raw_adc)
                              RL_VALUE
                              (1023-raw_adc)/raw_adc));

                              in fact it is above described, you have a voltage, you want a resistance.
                              https://learn.sparkfun.com/tutorials/voltage-dividers

                              datasheet needs a value which is the Rs/Ro (called here RL) where
                              Ro: sensor resistance at 100ppm of NH3 in the clean air.
                              Rs:sensor resistance at various concentrations of gases

                              here the formula is a simplification of this:

                              float Vrl = val * ( 5.00 / 1024.0 ); // V
                              float Rs = 20000 * ( 5.00 - Vrl) / Vrl ; // Ohm
                              int ratio = Rs/Ro;
                              ppm = 37143 * pow (ratio, -3.178);

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                              Vir
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #185

                              What does 37143 represents, Rs? and -3.178 is a second value from your regression method, but what about the first value?
                              Can you elaborate on ppm line, please
                              Vir

                              here the formula is a simplification of this:

                              float Vrl = val * ( 5.00 / 1024.0 ); // V
                              float Rs = 20000 * ( 5.00 - Vrl) / Vrl ; // Ohm
                              int ratio = Rs/Ro;
                              ppm = 37143 * pow (ratio, -3.178);

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                              • B bhavika

                                I am confused with MiCS 4514 sensor. What I had done is :

                                using MiCS quick start evaluation board, measured ADC value
                                calculated Vout and from that calculated R0.
                                Rs/R0 concentration gives me high value, which is not possible, My data is as follows
                                clean air file is used for the purpose of R0 value
                                https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8sF8a6FHoseWjhWOHRoYzIxakk/view?usp=sharing
                                and Polluted file is used to calculate the actual pollution
                                https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8sF8a6FHoseR1BnclhCUHdibEU/view?usp=sharing

                                I am confused. Please help me

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                                Vir
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                                #186

                                @bhavika said:

                                I am confused with MiCS 4514 sensor. What I had done is :

                                using MiCS quick start evaluation board, measured ADC value
                                calculated Vout and from that calculated R0.
                                Rs/R0 concentration gives me high value, which is not possible, My data is as follows
                                clean air file is used for the purpose of R0 value
                                https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8sF8a6FHoseWjhWOHRoYzIxakk/view?usp=sharing
                                and Polluted file is used to calculate the actual pollution
                                https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8sF8a6FHoseR1BnclhCUHdibEU/view?usp=sharing

                                I am confused. Please help me

                                I am confused by the formula you are using, could you please explain?
                                Pollution NO2 = (POWER((RS/R0)*(1/POWER(10,0.8068)),(1/1.01)))

                                Pollution CO = POWER((RS/R0)*(1/POWER(10 , 0.5476)),(1/-0.8497)))

                                is the actual formula like this?:

                                pollution = POWER((ratio *(1/POWER(10, curve[0])),(1/[curve[1])))

                                This is different than any other formulas discussed in this thread...
                                Vir

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                                • VirV Vir

                                  What does 37143 represents, Rs? and -3.178 is a second value from your regression method, but what about the first value?
                                  Can you elaborate on ppm line, please
                                  Vir

                                  here the formula is a simplification of this:

                                  float Vrl = val * ( 5.00 / 1024.0 ); // V
                                  float Rs = 20000 * ( 5.00 - Vrl) / Vrl ; // Ohm
                                  int ratio = Rs/Ro;
                                  ppm = 37143 * pow (ratio, -3.178);

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                                  Vir
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #187

                                  so does 37164 represents the scaling factor and -3.178 the exponent?
                                  Vir
                                  @Vir said:

                                  What does 37143 represents, Rs? and -3.178 is a second value from your regression method, but what about the first value?
                                  Can you elaborate on ppm line, please
                                  Vir

                                  here the formula is a simplification of this:

                                  float Vrl = val * ( 5.00 / 1024.0 ); // V
                                  float Rs = 20000 * ( 5.00 - Vrl) / Vrl ; // Ohm
                                  int ratio = Rs/Ro;
                                  ppm = 37143 * pow (ratio, -3.178);

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                                    alexsh1
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                                    #188

                                    @epierre I have the problem with the dust sketch (shinyei ppd42ns). The following code does not work in MySensors 1.5

                                    ...
                                    gw.send(msgPM10.set("ppm"));
                                      ...
                                    gw.send(msgPM25.set("ppm")); 
                                    ...
                                    
                                    2016-04-24 14:44:19.438 Error: MySensors: Unknown/Invalid sensor type (43)
                                    2016-04-24 14:44:19.438 Error: MySensors: Unknown/Invalid sensor type (43)
                                    

                                    So far both PM10 and PM25 are showing zero. However, if I upload the following code, it works fine (one channel though):

                                    // Watch video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8r4CeQopfY
                                    
                                    /* 
                                     Connection:
                                     
                                     JST Pin 1 (Black Wire)  => Arduino GND
                                     JST Pin 3 (Red wire)    => Arduino 5VDC
                                     JST Pin 4 (Yellow wire) => Arduino Digital Pin 8
                                    
                                     Green Led connected to Arduino D7
                                     Yellow Led connected to Arduino D6
                                     Red Led connected to Arduino D5
                                     
                                     
                                    Dust Sensor possible application:
                                    - Applications of customer
                                    - Air quality sensor
                                    - Dustlessness workshop
                                    - Cigarette detector
                                    */
                                    
                                    /*
                                    Sensor is to create Digital (Lo Pulse) output to Particulate Matters (PM). Lo Pulse Occupancy time (LPO time) is in proportion
                                    to PM concentration. The output is for PM whose size is around 1 micro meter or larger. We can use the sensor to detect the dust in clean room.
                                    Minimum detect particle: 1um
                                    http://www.seeedstudio.com/wiki/Grove_-_Dust_Sensor
                                     Grove - Dust Sensor Demo v1.0
                                     Interface to Shinyei Model PPD42NS Particle Sensor
                                     Program by Christopher Nafis 
                                     Written April 2012
                                     
                                     http://www.seeedstudio.com/depot/grove-dust-sensor-p-1050.html
                                     http://www.sca-shinyei.com/pdf/PPD42NS.pdf
                                     */
                                    
                                    int pin = 8;
                                    unsigned long duration;
                                    unsigned long starttime;
                                    unsigned long sampletime_ms = 1000;//sampe 1s ;
                                    unsigned long lowpulseoccupancy = 0;
                                    float ratio = 0;
                                    float concentration = 0;
                                    int gLed = 7;
                                    int yLed = 6;
                                    int rLed = 5;
                                    
                                    void setup() {
                                      Serial.begin(9600);
                                      pinMode(8,INPUT);
                                      pinMode(gLed,OUTPUT);
                                      pinMode(yLed,OUTPUT);
                                      pinMode(rLed,OUTPUT);
                                      starttime = millis();//get the current time;
                                    }
                                    
                                    void loop() {
                                      duration = pulseIn(pin, LOW);
                                      lowpulseoccupancy = lowpulseoccupancy+duration;
                                    
                                      if ((millis()-starttime) > sampletime_ms)//if the sampel time == 30s
                                      {
                                        ratio = lowpulseoccupancy/(sampletime_ms*10.0);  // Integer percentage 0=>100
                                        concentration = 1.1*pow(ratio,3)-3.8*pow(ratio,2)+520*ratio+0.62; // using spec sheet curve
                                        Serial.print("concentration = ");
                                        Serial.print(concentration);
                                        Serial.print(" pcs/0.01cf  -  ");
                                        if (concentration < 1.0) {
                                         Serial.println("It's a smokeless and dustless environment"); 
                                         digitalWrite(gLed, HIGH);
                                         digitalWrite(yLed, LOW);
                                         digitalWrite(rLed, LOW);
                                      }
                                        if (concentration > 1.0 && concentration < 20000) {
                                         Serial.println("It's probably only you blowing air to the sensor :)"); 
                                         digitalWrite(gLed, HIGH);
                                         digitalWrite(yLed, LOW);
                                         digitalWrite(rLed, LOW);
                                        }
                                        
                                        if (concentration > 20000 && concentration < 315000) {
                                         Serial.println("Smokes from matches detected!"); 
                                         digitalWrite(gLed, LOW);
                                         digitalWrite(yLed, HIGH);
                                         digitalWrite(rLed, LOW);
                                        }
                                          if (concentration > 315000) {
                                         Serial.println("Smokes from cigarettes detected! Or It might be a huge fire! Beware!"); 
                                         digitalWrite(gLed, LOW);
                                         digitalWrite(yLed, LOW);
                                         digitalWrite(rLed, HIGH);
                                      }
                                        
                                        lowpulseoccupancy = 0;
                                        starttime = millis();
                                      }
                                    }
                                    
                                    
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                                    • epierreE epierre

                                      Hello,

                                      sadly the discussions were lost...

                                      So let's start again on the subject:

                                      https://github.com/empierre/arduino

                                      Here is the list of my current experimentations:

                                      • MQ135.ino : for CO2/COV ... validated
                                        
                                      • MQ2.ino : for ethanol... needs pre-heat : ongoing
                                      • MQ6 sensor : just received
                                      • MQ131 sensor : just received
                                      • TGS2600 sensor : just received

                                      I'm getting serious a with a mega and a sensor board, 4 of them are connected together !

                                      The MQ135 is not on the list, I use it to measure CO2 in children's room...
                                      Values:

                                      • MQ2: 85 - Combustible gas and smoke
                                      • MQ6: 25 - Isobutane, Butane, LPG
                                      • MQ131: 57 - O3, CL2
                                      • TGS2600: 943 - ethanol, hydrogen, iso-butane, CO, Methane

                                      As discussed before, I would appreciate someone helping me reading the logarithmic curves in the datasheet (link on each sensor name above) to get the linear value based on analog reading. I need to learn reading it... thanks!

                                      as an example here in sandboxelectronics we saw that several values could be read from the datasheet:

                                      float           LPGCurve[3]  =  {2.3,0.21,-0.47};   //two points are taken from the curve.
                                                                                          //with these two points, a line is formed which is "approximately equivalent"
                                                                                       //to the original curve.
                                                                                      //data format:{ x, y, slope}; point1: (lg200, 0.21), point2: (lg10000, -0.59)
                                      float           COCurve[3]  =  {2.3,0.72,-0.34};    //two points are taken from the curve.
                                                                                      //with these two points, a line is formed which is "approximately equivalent"
                                                                                      //to the original curve.
                                                                                      //data format:{ x, y, slope}; point1: (lg200, 0.72), point2: (lg10000,  0.15)
                                      float           SmokeCurve[3] ={2.3,0.53,-0.44};    //two points are taken from the curve.
                                                                                      //with these two points, a line is formed which is "approximately equivalent"
                                                                                      //to the original curve.
                                                                                      //data format:{ x, y, slope}; point1: (lg200, 0.53), point2: (lg10000,  -0.22)                                                    
                                      float           Ro           =  10;                 //Ro is initialized to 10 kilo ohms
                                      
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                                      @epierre hi, could remove some doubts regarding the mq131 sensor?
                                      thanks,
                                      Anne

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                                        Hero Member
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                                        #190

                                        @alexsh1 said:

                                        (shinyei ppd42ns)

                                        I corrected the following sketch which had bad yg/m3 to ppm conversion thanks to LouiS22 from Domoticz forum remark (type conversion errors leading to 0 values).

                                        https://github.com/empierre/arduino/blob/master/DustSensor_SamYoung_DSM501.ino

                                        I guess I'll have to do the same here (but I lack time...):
                                        DustSensor_Shinyei_PPD42NS.ino

                                        z-wave - Vera -&gt; Domoticz
                                        rfx - Domoticz &lt;- MyDomoAtHome &lt;- Imperihome
                                        mysensors -&gt; mysensors-gw -&gt; Domoticz

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                                        • epierreE epierre

                                          @alexsh1 said:

                                          (shinyei ppd42ns)

                                          I corrected the following sketch which had bad yg/m3 to ppm conversion thanks to LouiS22 from Domoticz forum remark (type conversion errors leading to 0 values).

                                          https://github.com/empierre/arduino/blob/master/DustSensor_SamYoung_DSM501.ino

                                          I guess I'll have to do the same here (but I lack time...):
                                          DustSensor_Shinyei_PPD42NS.ino

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                                          @epierre Thanks - I'll have another go at Shinyei PPD42NS sketch once I have time. Ideally, I'd like to combine it with MH-Z14A sketch.

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